Bridge on Wroe Avenue with a very special guest

This week on the podcast Dan was joined by regulars Kate, Paul and Diya along with guests Jim and Ann Rougier. A very special guest came from Witchita Falls, Texas--Jean Butterbaugh.  You may have heard a lot about Jean on the podcast before--she was Dan's college sweetheart. They had not talked for many years but picked up their friendship last year.  The Gang was so excited to finally meet her and have her on the podcast.

1958 Best Picture Bridge on the River Kwai was the topic of discussion tonight as yummy Thai food was brought in from Thai 9.  So pull up a chair and join the table for this week's chat!

#DinnerwithDan

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:33

Are we recording? Okay. I would like to welcome everyone, our loyal listeners around the world, to this, the thirty-ninth episode of Dinner with Dan. I am your host, Dan Garris, your podcast podcast host, and we are recording on Sunday, June 28th, 2026, from Roe Avenue and Dayton's historic Five Oaks neighborhood. Walking distance to an excellent hospital and the Dayton Art Institute, a true jewel in the Gem City's crown. Tonight at the table are table regulars Kate Evans, Paul Duncan Robinson, and Dia, and maybe Eddie Garris. He's got an order of Singapore noodles in, so let's hope he shows. Tonight, we are also joined for the second time by a very uh interesting, entertaining couple uh known as Anne and Jim Rouget. They are making their second table appearance, uh, the first being when we reviewed. Best years of our lives. Okay. Our lives. Anne, give me a drum roll. Tonight, I am that was a drum roll. I am pleased to welcome to the table a very, very, very special friend of mine, all the way from Wichita Falls, Texas, the one and only Eleanor Jean Butterball Payne. Jean, as she prefers to be called, was my beloved college girlfriend. After we parted company in August of 1977, we reconnected in June of last year. And Jean has been a loyal listener to the podcast ever since day one. And I am so glad that she is able to be here and be part of the table today. Welcome to the table. Table regulars Nan Whaley and Sam Braun have been granted an excused absence to attend to family manners in Washington, D.C. But we'll be back at the table for the next podcast. So, Kate, what's for dinner tonight?

SPEAKER_06 2:58

Well we have Thai Takeout from Thai 9, uh restaurant here in the Oregon district. Um the movie takes place in Thailand, and we are having Thai food as uh in a some way to connect to the movie. Everybody kind of ordered their own thing. Uh so we have lots and lots of food. There's some heat going on here. Um there's some heat in the food. Oh yeah. Um there's they had a heavy hand with the spice tonight in the kitchen at tie nine.

SPEAKER_04 3:40

So uh uh I know.

SPEAKER_06 3:45

We have some at the table who really, really like the heat, and some at the table who can't quite handle it the same way.

SPEAKER_03 3:52

That would be me.

SPEAKER_08 3:54

Can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

SPEAKER_06 3:56

Well, there you go. So yeah, and then we have a peach and blueberry crumble for color with with ice cream.

SPEAKER_03 4:03

So that Kate Evans made it and churn the ice cream herself.

SPEAKER_06 4:08

I did not do that this time.

SPEAKER_03 4:10

This time. Well, nobody would know, Kate.

SPEAKER_06 4:13

Uh I have to be honest. Okay. I cannot tell a lot of it.

SPEAKER_03 4:16

Because we are honest on the podcast.

SPEAKER_08 4:18

Dan, you ready to cut the cup podcast? No, no, no, real peach ice cream or whatever.

SPEAKER_06 4:25

Uh here comes Eddie.

unknown 4:27

Who?

SPEAKER_06 4:28

Eddie. All right. I didn't realize he had left again.

SPEAKER_03 4:33

Ed. Edward, your Singapore noodles are right down there waiting for you.

SPEAKER_07 4:40

Small small food. Huh? Small food.

SPEAKER_03 4:44

There you go. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 4:45

There you go. You might need it.

SPEAKER_03 4:48

Well, this is really good stuff, Eddie.

SPEAKER_07 4:51

I didn't watch the movie.

SPEAKER_03 4:52

That's okay.

SPEAKER_07 4:54

That's alright.

SPEAKER_10 4:55

You have AI, don't you?

SPEAKER_08 4:58

Huh?

SPEAKER_10 4:59

Then you have AI on your phone, get it.

SPEAKER_08 5:02

You can uh you'd be able to catch on if you can go in something.

SPEAKER_03 5:08

Dia saying, keep your voice up.

SPEAKER_06 5:10

That's right. Keep that voice up. Okay, so let's get started, Daniel.

SPEAKER_03 5:18

We know what we're having for dinner.

SPEAKER_06 5:19

We do.

SPEAKER_03 5:20

But before we before we get to the movie, we always go around the table and we talk about what we've done. So we always start to my right. So that would be Dea, who is the tech support person tonight because Ann's or Nan is playing in the reflecting pool at the Lincoln Monument. Slasher? Lincoln Memorial, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 5:46

That is chipping away.

SPEAKER_03 5:48

Chipping away.

SPEAKER_02 5:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 5:52

Okay, Deo, what have you done this past week?

SPEAKER_02 5:54

Um, so Monday through Wednesday, I just hung out with a bunch of friends and just said goodbyes and met people for the last time. Yeah, and on Thursday we left for Cedar Point. So I spent like Thursday through Sunday. And I just got back and I had a lot of fun, lot lots of rides and the pretty lake. And I did pass out on one of them because it was too scary.

SPEAKER_03 6:23

You passed out?

SPEAKER_02 6:24

Whoa.

SPEAKER_03 6:25

Which ride did you pass out on?

SPEAKER_02 6:27

It's called um T T2. I forget what its the name is, but it's like a ride where it goes like it's everything, all the turns are straight up or straight down. So you start like in a U where you go straight up and then you go straight down the U, and then there's a like an upside down U. So you go straight up and then a curve and you go straight down. And this is like the probably the fastest roller coaster in the park. And it's super fast and super loud. And like I thought I was gonna fall out of my chair and die.

SPEAKER_00 7:00

Nope.

SPEAKER_01 7:01

Had that happened before to you?

SPEAKER_02 7:03

Um no.

SPEAKER_01 7:05

Uh oh.

SPEAKER_02 7:05

Wow. So that was pretty scary. So I just like I remember going up and then I remember being over. I don't remember anything between, and somebody woke me up. And you were between it? I was. I was too scared. I didn't want to go on it really. Okay. But I did it anyways. And then I did it a second time, and it was much better.

SPEAKER_01 7:24

So you there we go. You did it, you did it again.

SPEAKER_06 7:29

Good Rio. Give it another try. Yeah, so I had to go wait.

SPEAKER_03 7:33

You got back up on the horse and rode it again after it threw you.

SPEAKER_02 7:36

Yep, I sure did. I was not as scary.

unknown 7:39

No.

SPEAKER_02 7:40

Does your cowboy hat feel straight?

SPEAKER_03 7:43

Did you go on any of the merry-go-rounds?

SPEAKER_02 7:46

Um, I went on a Ferris wheel.

SPEAKER_03 7:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 7:49

Yeah, there you go. Did I? That's pretty cool.

unknown 7:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:53

Very tame compared to the Oh yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 7:56

Did you go out on the lake at all?

SPEAKER_02 7:58

Yes, I I like to wander. So, like I walked um all the way from the resort to the lake, and like I saw like sunsets every day, and this morning I woke up at five and I walked down there, saw the sunrise. Yeah. Pretty cool.

SPEAKER_03 8:14

Where did you stay in what hotel?

SPEAKER_02 8:16

Um, I think it's called Sawmills Resort. It's pretty close to Cedar Point.

SPEAKER_03 8:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 8:23

Yeah. Nice.

SPEAKER_03 8:25

Now let me ask a question.

SPEAKER_02 8:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:28

Because I've never been to India. Do you have amusement parts like that in India?

SPEAKER_02 8:33

We do. But they're not by a lake. That's that pretty. Yeah, that was my week.

SPEAKER_03 8:43

Okay, Kate?

SPEAKER_06 8:45

Well, I have nothing so exciting to report. Um, I enjoyed a four-day work week, which was really nice. I took Friday off. Okay. I had some things that I needed to take care of. So uh that worked out really well. Um, I also went to a garden center again because I can't stop buying plants.

SPEAKER_10 9:10

Um is it true addiction?

SPEAKER_06 9:12

It is I think it is my addiction, and I can't stop buying plants and pretty flowers. So um, yeah, I it was kind of a fairly quiet week, but I needed it, so I was happy to have it.

SPEAKER_03 9:29

Okay, well, next time you go to the garden center, yes, I want you to buy me two hanging baskets for my porch.

SPEAKER_06 9:35

Okay, I can do that. And I will I wish I had known. Well, now Stocks Lagers has a big sale on hanging baskets.

SPEAKER_03 9:42

Now you have a reason to go back.

SPEAKER_06 9:44

I know, just what I needed.

SPEAKER_03 9:45

You can say I'm doing it for a guy that's mobile uh that's uh uh physically challenged and mobility challenged, I gotta do it.

SPEAKER_06 9:52

So I'm doing a good job. It's a good excuse, and I don't need one. So, but I'll be happy to do it. Uh yeah, stocks I had a whole bunch of reward points. So I didn't yeah, they do, and I didn't even have to spend that much.

SPEAKER_10 10:07

So the other place is have you ever done uh first their greenhouse?

SPEAKER_06 10:14

No.

SPEAKER_10 10:15

So you could I mean not basket but cart, so you can have a you can fill up whatever um grocery cart, I think it's a grocery cart for x number of dollars. Oh nice. And then if you want to add on the bottom, you can add more and um I walk out of the air with a hole inside for $75.

SPEAKER_06 10:37

Whoa, that's really good. Yeah. Annuals only? Anything? No, everything. Wow, oh that's good. Of course our perennials are limited. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:47

At first? Yeah. Yeah. At first is where I always order my flowers from.

SPEAKER_06 10:53

Yeah, me too.

SPEAKER_03 10:54

I think they are the best in Dayton.

SPEAKER_06 10:56

They yeah, they really do. I think they have the best point that yeah as well in the machine. Yeah, I I would agree. And you know, I know, neither does Stocks Lagers, although I would gladly become a Stocks Lagers ambassador if any of you are listening out there. You and Sam. I know. Well, Sam like has it in his family, but I don't. But I I evangelize Stock Slagers even without any incentives.

SPEAKER_07 11:25

So those Dayton Garden Centers Yeah, Danny Perez.

SPEAKER_06 11:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 11:31

Yeah, we've got to support, we've got to start supporting Dan Perez at North Dayton Garden Center.

SPEAKER_06 11:39

Is he there now? Is he like actually working in the business? Wow, good friend.

SPEAKER_07 11:43

I mean, practically, but yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:46

When when Addie and I get our new fence put in between our house and Damien's, uh, we're gonna have Danny Perez come out and figure out lilacs and a red bud for the red bud that I had to cut down. So we'll be using uh North Dayton Garden Center for that.

SPEAKER_10 12:03

That's very nice.

SPEAKER_03 12:04

But if you ever need to send somebody a gourmet basket, do it from first. They have the best gourmet baskets.

SPEAKER_07 12:13

They do.

SPEAKER_01 12:14

I don't know.

SPEAKER_08 12:15

Miltonhead is down at the end.

SPEAKER_03 12:16

Okay, Paul, what have you done?

SPEAKER_01 12:18

Well, since we last met, um I went to the uh graduation, high school graduation of Diana and Jerrica Taste uh of the Charles Watts experience here in Five Oaks. Um the graduation itself?

SPEAKER_10 12:34

No, no, I'm sorry, they're part of it.

SPEAKER_01 12:37

Yeah, yeah, the celebration of them graduating. Um I did a double trip to City Barbecue for uh Father's Day and my birthday.

SPEAKER_06 12:46

Uh what else did I do, Dan?

SPEAKER_01 12:52

I read I read the book you gave me last uh The Appalachian Trail. Yeah, I enjoyed it. AT? Um yeah, with the AT, so I read that book. And then I watched World Cup, you know, focusing on the United States and you know Canada game today. And uh that's pretty much it.

SPEAKER_03 13:06

Well, Paul, let me ask you.

SPEAKER_01 13:09

I wasn't gonna get by without a question.

SPEAKER_03 13:11

You're 56?

SPEAKER_01 13:13

Seven now.

SPEAKER_03 13:14

57.

SPEAKER_01 13:17

Not there. Oh no, no.

SPEAKER_08 13:20

57 is so far my rear view beer. I can't see that. I can't see that.

SPEAKER_01 13:26

Yeah, it's nice to have you at the table, Jim. You know, just for that reason. So you Dan Dan normally is talking about how he's the oldest one. That's true. Yeah, Jim's older than me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:39

So, Paul, yes, reading that book on the Appalachian Trail, did not it make you nostalgic for being on the trail and wanting to get back and do the southbound?

SPEAKER_01 13:51

Um not quite yet, Dan. Not quite yet.

SPEAKER_03 13:54

Okay, now there was an article in the Dayton paper, as we all know, I still get the print edition. Yes, uh, about a woman who had just completed the Oreg the Appalachian the Appalachian Trail, but she did it in segments.

SPEAKER_04 14:08

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 14:09

Let me ask you, since you're the only uh Appalachian Trail snob that I know.

SPEAKER_01 14:15

Whoa.

SPEAKER_06 14:16

Whoa, I don't know if you're gonna be able to do it.

SPEAKER_01 14:18

That's not gonna encourage me to do it again.

SPEAKER_06 14:20

Well, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 14:21

But Jim and I have been on the trail.

SPEAKER_06 14:23

Well, I had to bury Pooh in the dirt. How is that how can he be?

SPEAKER_03 14:27

I mean snob in a loving way because he's done it. The rare loving. I mean, I don't think you can talk about I don't think you can talk about the Appalachian Trail if you haven't done it.

SPEAKER_06 14:37

Well, I think that's true.

SPEAKER_03 14:38

So it's like, you know, he's our wine sommier or however you pronounce it when it comes to the Appalachian Trail. So, Paul, let me let me rephrase that. Not as a snob, but as a person who did the Appalachian Trail as a through hiker who is thinking about doing it southbound.

SPEAKER_01 14:58

As Dan is thinking about me doing southbound.

SPEAKER_03 15:00

Every night I go to bed, you know. That's part of my prayers at night.

SPEAKER_06 15:04

You did the whole thing. Yes, all at one time. Allegedly.

SPEAKER_01 15:08

Uh well, so Eddie a lot of club death t-shirt to prove I was in the very city.

SPEAKER_06 15:14

I would be the hater. I know.

SPEAKER_03 15:16

So, Paul. Yes, Paul. As a person who did the through, would you count a person who did it in segments over a period of four or five or six or seven years as somebody who hiked the Appalachian track?

SPEAKER_01 15:33

Oh, for sure. Yeah, they they just yes, they just don't get the label of through hiker. Okay, yeah, absolutely. They they would say that they hiked it, yeah. Okay, for sure. In fact, I I I I probably told the story before, um, but I met a guy, I think that was in North Carolina, and he I met him when he was 60 years old, but when he turned 40, so 20 years earlier, he said that uh he was gonna hike the Appalachian Trail, you know, like two, three weeks a year and until he was done. And I and I honestly when I met him, he had crossed like 1900 miles out of the 2,200 miles. And I looked at him and I met this. I said, I think you're doing it the hard way because I could not imagine waking up every year going back out. Going back out for two to three weeks, and you had to re- you know, get your trail legs back.

SPEAKER_06 16:18

Yeah, oh yeah. Well, the mental preparation of having knowing you've got to go back out for three more weeks and bury your poo. So I think somebody like that. As as listeners know, that's the part that really gets me.

SPEAKER_02 16:35

Why did you bury your poo?

SPEAKER_06 16:37

Yeah, too. He didn't do it very often.

SPEAKER_01 16:40

It's that that's what the etiquette is. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 16:45

So did you have fire grade hold paper?

SPEAKER_01 16:50

No, you carry that out. Um people carry that. Ideally, I mean, ideally, again, if you're following the etiquette, I hate to say rules because it's not like there's a marshal out there, but if you're following like the the current etiquette, you would pack things out, yeah. So but there's also a lot of portable. I mean, there's like privies at the shelter. So I don't want to give anyone the impression that like every day was in the woods.

SPEAKER_06 17:17

I don't I'm the one giving everybody that impression.

SPEAKER_10 17:20

So that's what I think of. I think Maine is really rough. As far as terrain.

SPEAKER_01 17:27

So Paul, you have yes, but after you've gone 2,000 miles, it's not that tough. I mean, I don't want to say it's easy, but I think if you start in Maine and go southbound like Dan's trying to get me to do, I think it's I think, yes, it's super I think it's tougher than starting in Georgia, but after you've gone 2,000 miles, Maine is not as difficult. I also didn't face really much bad weather, so there's that.

SPEAKER_03 17:54

I'm putting it out here, Paul, right now. I'm putting it out here. I got one of my heirs studying at the end of this table.

SPEAKER_07 18:01

Hey, one of my heirs. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 18:04

You do southbound. I'll write you a check for $10,000.

SPEAKER_07 18:09

Fuck you. That's $5.

SPEAKER_03 18:13

Who's the executor? That's five. Bring them up. Oh, five. Bring them up. Okay. I'm just saying, Paul.

SPEAKER_01 18:25

Well, that would definitely cover expenses.

SPEAKER_03 18:27

I'm just saying, I'm a I'm a man of my word. That's a standing offer until the day I die.

SPEAKER_01 18:31

He's really tightened it. That tightened the thumb screws like several turns. There you go. This is so funny. Yeah, grad school. We set expectations on that.

SPEAKER_06 18:50

I didn't think you'd be swayed by money.

unknown 18:54

No. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 18:57

It does eliminate one quarter. As Winston Churchills. As Winston Churchill's free.

SPEAKER_08 19:04

And people don't understand it, people don't believe it. And I asked my kids when I was teaching, I asked my kids in school what makes the world go round.

SPEAKER_06 19:15

I know. I know.

SPEAKER_08 19:17

And they didn't. Wow.

SPEAKER_10 19:20

Okay, that's another five dollars.

SPEAKER_03 19:24

It's only the F bomb.

SPEAKER_08 19:26

And they didn't have clue. I didn't have a clue until I put that dollar sign on the board.

SPEAKER_01 19:32

Jimmy Bright had the best in Eddie here.

SPEAKER_06 19:35

Yeah, I know. Until you put the dollar sign on the board, that sounds like very things or like money.

SPEAKER_08 19:42

Yeah. Good grief. How are you gonna eat lunch today? How you gonna buy gas? Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 19:51

I no, I hear you. I yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:54

Alright, to be continued, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_06 19:57

Do you have any more questions?

SPEAKER_03 20:00

So, anyhow, Paul, I just want to tell you something. I admire the answer you gave about the woman and people who have to do it in segments. Yeah. Because I think there's probably people that go, oh no, if you don't do it through, it don't count.

SPEAKER_01 20:15

Yeah, probably. But I mean that's a true story I told about running that guy. I looked him in the eyes and I was like, I think you're doing it the hard way. And I'd only gone like, I don't know, 200 miles or something. Yeah. Maybe not even that much.

SPEAKER_08 20:27

So how long did it take you?

SPEAKER_00 20:28

Twenty-four weeks. Six months.

SPEAKER_08 20:32

Six months? Yeah.

unknown 20:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:34

Yeah, it's about.

SPEAKER_08 20:35

Can you understand to be awake? Yeah, you could.

SPEAKER_10 20:38

That's about Eddie's having good. I know.

SPEAKER_04 20:44

Okay, Eddie. No, I'm not maneuvering. I have a problem, okay.

SPEAKER_10 20:49

Okay, you have a noodle on your lap if that matters. Oh god.

SPEAKER_03 20:55

Okay, if Eddie doesn't choke.

SPEAKER_01 20:57

If Eddie doesn't choke, it's I will choke. It's his turn.

SPEAKER_03 21:01

There you go, Eddie.

SPEAKER_07 21:03

What am I supposed to talk about?

SPEAKER_03 21:05

Well, swallow your Singapore noodles first.

SPEAKER_01 21:08

You know, the past week.

SPEAKER_03 21:09

And what have you done this past week?

SPEAKER_06 21:11

Yeah. You don't get to talk about work.

SPEAKER_07 21:13

I did okay in my mathematical fucking linear algebra.

SPEAKER_06 21:23

Bring him up. $10. Yeah, he said that P word. Oh, I forgot we're counting.

SPEAKER_02 21:28

Oh, I figured it out.

SPEAKER_06 21:29

What P word? Yeah. Don't say you don't have to say it.

SPEAKER_02 21:32

I don't think that Mike got it though.

SPEAKER_06 21:34

What's the P word?

SPEAKER_07 21:36

I want to know what the P word is, so we're gonna say no. Move on.

SPEAKER_06 21:39

So what was your what was your grade? You got a good grade?

SPEAKER_07 21:45

Please uh what's the P word though? What P.

SPEAKER_06 21:50

Please stop! I know. Eddie, move on.

SPEAKER_07 21:54

No, this is one of the only tests though. So it's one of the easy things. I mean, yes. Doing basic stuff with basic numbers. Doing basic numbers.

SPEAKER_08 22:07

Numbers.

SPEAKER_07 22:09

Well, it was a good day. Well, nah, well. And then I got drunk and I fell asleep on the poach, supposedly.

SPEAKER_06 22:17

I think you might still be a little drunk, Eddie. I'm just gonna say that right now. If the podcast world hasn't figured it out.

SPEAKER_03 22:25

Well, Eddie, that's okay because I remember one time when the man who's sitting next to you, Jim Rouget, did the same thing. And he blamed it on my expensive imported German beer.

SPEAKER_04 22:38

That could have been about the same age.

SPEAKER_03 22:42

No, this was about 20 years ago, Jim. At one of our Octoberfriends parties.

SPEAKER_04 22:47

Fair enough.

SPEAKER_07 22:50

Does they want to have a math contest? Nope.

SPEAKER_01 22:53

Nope.

SPEAKER_07 22:53

Nope. Probably lose. Does they want to have a uh history contest? Gemini history contest.

SPEAKER_06 23:00

No, we want to have our podcast study. We want to move on and talk about our podcast.

SPEAKER_08 23:08

Did they ever talk about Gazintas? Oh my lord. Help us. I know.

SPEAKER_01 23:15

That's a five dollar thing. I don't know what's going on. Gazintas. I don't know what Gazintas is.

SPEAKER_07 23:23

Right state or U D? Um obviously the best math teachers have to have it. They've been syntax. Okay. Well problems though, because they're in the Gazintis. You don't know what you think is? I don't know what it is.

SPEAKER_06 23:38

I think this is a conversation.

SPEAKER_08 23:41

12 goes into eight. Eight goes into sixteen.

SPEAKER_07 23:48

Those are very basic multiples. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 23:52

We're gonna move on.

SPEAKER_06 23:54

We're like seriously. We're moving on.

SPEAKER_03 23:57

Jim, what have you done this past week? You had a busy week? Tell us.

SPEAKER_08 24:01

I was um I drove down. Yes. I didn't drive at all. Oh his um girlfriend drove.

SPEAKER_07 24:12

And he has Sot and a big old fucking Oh my god, Eddie.

SPEAKER_06 24:19

Rack it up!

SPEAKER_03 24:22

Calm down, Eddie. Alright, cool. Okay.

SPEAKER_08 24:25

Well anyway, we um went down to Hilton Head, North Carolina, and stayed on the beach with my only surviving sibling and her husband and my wife and two of my children, and my uh girlfriend, and one two of my nephews. That's so great. Three nephews every nephew and our handicap. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Yeah, there we go. Okay, Becca back up in Washington DC. Because my sister gave Becca for a Christmas dish. Wow, so that one made it again. Not a lot, yeah, that's a lot of stuff. And she doesn't have a car. No her and her mother.

SPEAKER_10 25:48

I drove the whole way.

SPEAKER_08 25:52

Yeah, you did. Okay.

unknown 25:54

That was in the backseat.

SPEAKER_08 25:58

Oh my goodness. And I will let her mother talk about that. And then we got home uh last night. Went to a funeral. A friend of ours. His father died, passed away. So we went uh to the funeral. Very interesting funeral. And I will say this is always sad because I went to church for the first time. I missed the last two months. Really?

SPEAKER_03 26:46

That's unlike you, Jimmy.

SPEAKER_08 26:47

It is unlike you. And we and I don't know what happened when we were down in South Carolina. Why I forgot about it.

SPEAKER_10 26:56

I knew. We were preparing a body crunch.

SPEAKER_08 27:00

Oh okay. Maybe that's maybe maybe that's what it was. Well anyway, so I have to make up uh make up for it during this week.

SPEAKER_10 27:10

Okay, so I will have gladly pass the con my lovely husband, which is where the sister lives, and then as a family channel on Saturday. Yeah, seven bedrooms, eight baths, wow, etc. And if you are not really one more bedroom.

SPEAKER_06 27:53

Well, you had a crowd. That's quite a crowd.

SPEAKER_01 27:56

Have you had that crowd before or have you all?

SPEAKER_10 27:58

But you know, there's a thing called service, right?

SPEAKER_01 28:01

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_10 28:02

And actually some of them are more comfortable than that, really. But anyway, so um our daughter Rebecca, as everybody knows, is an AC and is quite the um activist for things that she's very passionate about, and one most recently is a project number two, which is grade nine R and so she got the opportunity to interview president uh and so she was asking me that further. And I love it. Anyway, so anybody is looking at like trying to get money to someone or whatever. Um I mean it's that's called Project 32. And the name is specifically uh for the number of counties that are in Ireland. So there's 31 in Ireland and 26 in Ireland.

SPEAKER_03 29:27

Uh come on, Eddie.

SPEAKER_10 29:28

Okay, okay, you're up to million dollars. Um but personally being in Belfast this past uh June, I was so educated in the fact that it was still a wall. It was still like seven o'clock at night closed processes over here, the cafe over here. It was it was crazy. I mean I I did not get to know that show and to know that when I went to Northern Ireland, I had a different currency, which kind of like turned me off and then it's like a calendar anyway. So that was um very nice to have that aligner to have position to handle very cool. Yeah, very good. So one of the things I learned that I was too uh shy and you're not shy. Nobody here believes it, but I know, right? Um is that they are changing their total age to sixteen.

SPEAKER_06 30:51

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_10 30:54

Because right now they're fifteen. Right now there's fifty-one percent. And so if they up the ante and that, then just to help us all move. So we'll see what happens.

SPEAKER_06 31:14

Anyway. Imagine that. Expanding the voter base instead of trying to limit it. Okay. Oh, like who I know. How about that?

SPEAKER_10 31:22

We don't want his reflection. I'm done, Dan.

SPEAKER_03 31:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_10 31:28

Do you have any questions?

SPEAKER_03 31:31

Uh do I have any questions? No, it sounds like you guys had a fun time at the beach. And uh interesting time. Did you go down to the reflecting pool and bring us a piece of it? No.

SPEAKER_01 31:45

Oh, no, don't be a resident of the manual.

SPEAKER_10 31:47

Yeah, well, exactly. Well, we were going to. But the mass crowd for 250 and stupid.

SPEAKER_06 31:57

I'm sorry, that county fair, state fair, whatever.

SPEAKER_09 32:01

And uh Reagan was closed for a little while just allowed all the whatever.

SPEAKER_07 32:07

So is this the uh when is the 250s? The treaty of this is the treaty of like a it's July 4th. July 4th.

SPEAKER_10 32:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:16

250 is July 4th, which is it's the Declaration of Independence is not actually the founding of the country.

SPEAKER_06 32:25

It's based on the Treaty of Confederation or whatever before.

SPEAKER_03 32:30

Articles of Confederation. That's after the revolution was over. And before the Constitution.

SPEAKER_06 32:37

We're basically saying Independence Day. We're saying that that is the day we declared six. We declared our independence.

SPEAKER_07 32:48

So the Articles of Confederation don't mean shit then.

SPEAKER_06 32:52

Well they did at the time. They did at the time. That'll mean no shit. It'll mean no shit.

SPEAKER_03 32:56

Eddie, calm down. The Articles of Confederation is what gave us five states in the Northwest uh ordinance. That is correct. Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, uh, Illinois, and uh Wisconsin. So having said that, we're not doing a history lesson tonight. We're gonna move on to our special guest here today.

SPEAKER_09 33:18

We're doing a history lesson.

SPEAKER_05 33:21

All right. So Monday I went to the gym in Texas like I do always. Tuesday, I had a meeting for my Master Gardener group because we're planning a new class of Master Gardeners. So we're putting together a whole curriculum of what we're gonna teach Master Gardeners. Oh, I have questions, but yeah, so I love that you love to go plant shopping. So Wednesday, I got in my trusty little blue bonnet out there, left Wichita Falls, Texas, and drove nine mile nine hours to Rolla, Missouri, where I spent the night, had a nice little dinner, got up in the in the next morning on Wednesday, no, Thursday morning, and I drove from Rolla to 232 Row Avenue. So Thursday. That's a drive. Yes, it is. Thursday evening, we had a lovely dinner at Coco's. Nice Friday. See, I've forgotten already. What do we do Friday? Legacy. Friday. Friday we went to Legacy and I got to meet a friend of Dan's that I have not met before. Nice. Came back Friday night.

SPEAKER_03 34:38

Eddie ordered us Chinese. That's right.

SPEAKER_05 34:40

Eddie ordered us Chinese and we watched the movie Friday night. Saturday we got up and we went to Legacy, and I met a whole bunch more of new friends.

SPEAKER_06 34:52

I hope you like the Legacy.

SPEAKER_05 34:54

It was. I do. Yeah, it's great.

SPEAKER_01 34:56

Did they greet you by name the second time? Yes.

SPEAKER_05 34:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 35:01

Yeah, from last year, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 35:02

And Saturday night we had a Garrus family gathering here. Nice. With with hamburgers, hot dogs, the whole bit, and I got to meet all the all the little children. Oh, good.

SPEAKER_07 35:17

They're all so cute.

SPEAKER_05 35:20

So stinking cute. Yeah. They were and so that was a lot of fun. So this morning we just kind of, yeah, today we just kind of chilled. Didn't do really much of anything.

SPEAKER_06 35:31

Sounds like you needed a break, maybe. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 35:34

So yeah. So getting ready for leaving in the morning.

SPEAKER_10 35:40

Oh, that's sad.

SPEAKER_05 35:42

Oh, that's right, we did. See, I tell you, I get I get stage fright. Everything mixed stage fright. Yeah, we did. We made Dan and I made brunch. I forgot. Oh, so I know. We did. We made brunch for the for the law school guys.

SPEAKER_06 35:56

I mean the I saw two lonely stalks of celery and a half drunk bottle of champagne, and I figured there was a big brunch afoot. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 36:09

We did. See? Yeah. Stage fried.

SPEAKER_07 36:13

Stage fried. I might have ate some of it. You might have eaten the celery. Only the celery. Right. Right.

SPEAKER_05 36:19

Oh my. So it's been a lovely, lovely week. Good. I've been having a great time. Good.

SPEAKER_10 36:26

I'm glad I got to meet you. Yeah, me too.

SPEAKER_05 36:29

So yes, I feel like I know you all, but you don't know me, so I have the advantage there.

SPEAKER_10 36:35

Yeah, this is great.

SPEAKER_05 36:36

Yeah. You're now known. I'm known.

SPEAKER_10 36:39

And we have a place to go in India. Yeah. Yes. That's right.

SPEAKER_06 36:42

Oh, that'd be great. Can you imagine?

SPEAKER_10 36:45

Podcast India.

SPEAKER_03 36:46

We're going to.

SPEAKER_01 36:49

Wouldn't that be amazing. Dan, may I add something to my comment I forgot in the QA? I uh I forgot. I did Friday night. I went to uh with some curling folks to uh something called following, F-O-W-L-I-N-G.

SPEAKER_03 37:03

That's five dollars.

SPEAKER_01 37:04

Yeah, yeah. Good one, good one. And so it's this uh activity where they you set up ten bowling pins just like you would in a bowling alley, but instead of a bowling ball, you throw a football at the pins and you try to knock them over. Oh.

SPEAKER_05 37:18

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 37:19

It's not as easy as that may sound. Oh, I'd be better at that than actual bullets. Right. And this and this place has been uh in Cincinnati for seven years, which I mean I don't live in Cincinnati, but I hadn't heard of it. But it just it uh there's always a joke that curlers like to do other niche activities. And so falling definitely falls in that category.

SPEAKER_03 37:37

Paul, you'll assume me playing pickleball, I know it.

SPEAKER_01 37:41

I don't know even if that's a niche activity anymore, David. Oh, that's true. I turned it over. I hear you. That's true. I'm I'm resisting that. What's pickleball?

SPEAKER_02 37:50

It's like easier version of tennis.

SPEAKER_06 37:55

That's right, you turn a pickle into a ball.

SPEAKER_07 37:58

We hate them pickleball boys.

SPEAKER_06 38:02

Never mind.

SPEAKER_01 38:03

Thank you for allowing me to append the conversation.

SPEAKER_03 38:05

Oh yeah. I've never heard of that activity, but it sounds like something that the people that live in Cincinnati would do. As everybody knows, I have very strong opinions about the city of Cincinnati have my entire life. But anyhow, moving on. Too many hills. Too many hills.

SPEAKER_01 38:23

When you lived in Van Wert, you had opinions about this. Oh, absolutely. All right. Too many hills.

SPEAKER_03 38:27

It's easy to have opinions about it. Uh you know, uh uh Gene and I are from the Great. We're from the Great Prairie. You know, the Great Prairie starts in northwest Ohio and it goes all the way out. Yeah. Uh I'm from Van Wert, she's Dixon, Illinois, which was 125 miles west of Chicago, the home of Ronald Reagan. And I just I we just were doing the math on it. When I was in Colomba, well, for those of you who don't know, uh we went to Manchester College together. We were boyfriend, girlfriend. Uh my fresh my last year in law uh college and her second year at college, and then she went to France for a year while I was at my first year in law school, and then we were still together uh the following year, her senior year in college. And then uh and my second year of of law uh uh law school. So, anyhow, uh I was doing the math, and from Columbus to Dixon was 450 miles. Really? And if I was going 50 miles an hour, that was nine-hour drive. I couldn't do a nine-hour drive now to save my soul. But hey, when you're young and dumb, we did a lot. And the word might be that one night during a snowstorm when I was driving her to or from Dixon, Illinois, this massive highway stop sign jumped out in front of my car.

SPEAKER_06 40:02

Oh God. You killed it.

SPEAKER_03 40:04

And I killed it.

SPEAKER_06 40:06

Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_03 40:07

But I was driving uh uh uh 1967 Pontiac uh uh cutlass.

SPEAKER_06 40:12

I was gonna say all the cars were tanks back then.

SPEAKER_03 40:15

And you know, I saw no smoke coming out of the radiator, and I looked around and I'm like, we're out of here.

SPEAKER_06 40:20

Yeah, we gotta go. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 40:22

So anyhow, the uh the reason why we did the brunch today was uh uh Gene actually had a foot uh in both camps. People uh knew her from college, of course, and then they also knew her from law school. And she knew Virginia, Virginia knew her, uh, so that's why we did the law school uh brunch today. And I gotta admit, I couldn't have got it done without her. So thank you very much for doing that. Uh putting the brunch together. So this past Monday, uh I didn't do anything. Tuesday, uh I didn't do anything. Uh Wednesday, I uh I talked to you for a while. Okay, yeah, yeah. We talked for like over an hour. Nice uh and then uh was just getting ready for uh Jane to get here. Yeah. So she's already told you what we've done. So it's been a really good visit. I'm trying to convince her that uh since there I believe there's a flight from Dallas to Dayton, that she can come up once a week.

SPEAKER_06 41:32

Once a week.

SPEAKER_03 41:33

Yeah, and do all my cooking and do all this and help me carry this and help me carry that. Legacy wants to see her again. And Legacy wants to see her again. Yeah, it's air. I'll pay for the airfare and the meals. Um so anyhow, we've had a a really good visit, and I'm gonna miss her when she's gone. Okay, so we're gonna move on to the movie.

SPEAKER_06 41:52

It's movie time.

SPEAKER_03 41:53

It's movie time. Okay, so we are now doing, I believe, our 30th movie. Uh whoa! Yeah, I think this is the big three-o. I think this is the 30th movie that we've done. And this is, I'm going to read the cover. Nice. Uh we're doing the bridge on the river Kwai. Kwai. And that's why we had Thai food tonight because that river is in uh Thailand. Uh the back of the DVD cover says when British POWs build a vital railway bridge in enemy-occupied Burma, uh, Allied commandos are assigned to destroy it in David Lean's epic World War II adventure, The Bridge on the River Kwai. Spectacularly produced The Bridge on the River Kwai, captured the imagination of the public and won seven Academy Awards, including Best Picture, Best Actor, Alec Guinness, and Best Director. I am not done. Uh, but thank you for cleaning the table. Uh this Thai food's really good. Uh even its theme song, an old World War I whistling tune, The Colonel Bogey March, be give him a drink, give him a drink, it's getting dry. So became a massive became a massive worldwide hit. Okay. So from the uh eighty years of the Oscar uh history book that we used, uh written by the late uh great Robert Osborne. Uh I'm going to read you something else that was said about the movie. And it is uh Okay. Uh it filmed for three and a half months in. In the hot jungles of Ceylon. That's where they filmed it. And it is uh the uh Osborne book says it it was a grim novel written by Pierre Boley, B-O-U-L-L-E. Uh grim novel about the folly of men's uh man's unwitting unwittingly involvement in the useless uh game of war. Uh that year it did win, do I have it right now? Yeah, that year it did win seven Oscars uh for best picture, and we like to say what it was up against, and it was up against Peyton Place. Uh Peyton Place.

SPEAKER_06 44:40

I know, can you believe it? I struggle to understand how that movie got nominated for an Oscar. But Peyton Place. Anyway, sorry, I'm getting that off the list here.

SPEAKER_03 44:52

Santanara, Twelve Angry Men.

SPEAKER_06 44:56

Which is a great movie.

SPEAKER_03 44:57

And Witness for the Prosecution. Which is a great movie. Yeah, it got Best Picture. It got Best Actor for Alex Guinness, who then became Sir Alex Guinness, and ultimately Obi-Wan Kenobi of Star Wars fame. And that year for Best Actor, he did beat Marlon Brando and Anthony Quinn. So that was some Anthony Quinn was doing Zorba.

SPEAKER_06 45:18

Was it Zorba?

SPEAKER_03 45:19

No, it wasn't Zorba the Greek, it was some other movie. Okay. It also won directing for David David Lean. It won for writing the screenplay based on material from another source. It won cinematography, it won film editing, and it won music scoring. So that is pretty much the wrap on uh my notes that I've got. The DVD that I had did not have extra commentary, but Gene and I did watch it uh uh Friday night. So let's start talking about it. Now, Dia did not get to see the movie.

SPEAKER_06 45:59

I did not.

SPEAKER_03 46:00

So we'll just be busy on the roller coaster to Kate.

SPEAKER_06 46:03

Okay, well, um I honestly don't know how much I have to say about this. It's an entertaining movie. Um I think you know, as war movies go, I think one of the things I liked about how this movie was told, the story was told, it was it was a very specific kind of moment of the war. Now it's fictional, um, based on things that, you know, bits and pieces, maybe based on things that might have actually happened, but it's a fictional account of these soldiers. And I liked that it was um kind of insulated in some ways from the bigger picture war. Like uh, you know, it's like we you weren't talking about, it wasn't um necessarily, you know, trying to make a comment on the war as a big global event. It was this this snapshot in time when this group of British soldiers gets taken prisoner and it's like their moments in this camp. And I think that was effective. Um, you know, it's like it's being um this movie's being made, what, 12 years after the end of World War II? So there's some time and distance there, and you know, to kind of like dig into a specific place and time and moment um and kind of focus in on these soldiers doing what they had to do uh to live and survive. Um I thought that made it maybe more interesting than some of the other war movies that, you know, some that we'll see uh and some that, you know, were made during the same time, you know, it's like you start seeing the longest day, and you know, it's like these big movies where it's like it's like these meant to be these big things. And while the cinematography of this movie makes it feel very big, like you can tell it's a David Lean movie if you're familiar with other David Lean movies, Lawrence of Arabia and such. It's like you can tell it's it's big in the visual sense, but kind of small in the story sense, which I I really enjoyed. Um, Alec Guinness is great. Absolutely understand why he won an Oscar. You know, he is so single-minded in his pursuit of getting this bridge built, in spite of so many people questioning his uh motivation and, you know, frankly, his sanity in doing so. Um, but you know, was I thought did a really great job. William Holden is always, I just find him, you know, fun to watch in anything he's in. He comes, he does, you know, he like kind of can a versatile actor of the time could kind of do a little bit of everything, always had a like a twinkle in his eye. That irreverence that he brings to this role really made it work. Um, but you know, I I like this movie. It's it's one I've seen before. It's not one I like really would seek out to watch again and again, but I it's an enjoyable movie.

SPEAKER_01 49:37

So yeah, I excuse. I actually like the movie. In a way, it's kind of hard to pin down why I like it. I think I like, as Kate said, like the grand sweep of it. I mean, the cinematography is great. I mean, we know that it won an Oscar, it's a David Lean, you know, film. I think when we watch Lawrence Arabia in about five weeks or so, I think we'll call back to this movie for the similarities and how the movie was shot. Um it uh it in a in a way I I was at first I wanted to kind of I'd seen it before and I'd forgotten how much time was spent kind of on the the this the second plot, you know, of William Holden's character, like you know, going on, you know, I forgot it was that long. Yeah, I forgot it was that long.

SPEAKER_06 50:25

You know, I I had forgotten that time.

SPEAKER_01 50:26

I'd forgotten that too. Um I thought it was gonna be more you know about them building a bridge, um, even though I'd seen it before. And so I kind of wanted to like I wouldn't say poke holes in it because it wasn't like I didn't like it, but I was trying to think of well, is this realistic ish, you know, like would they really be cooperating instead of trying to like sabotage it? But at the same time, that that wasn't really the point, right? I mean, um Alec Guinness's character, you know, the lieutenant colonel uh, you know, had a way about like he he wanted to create like a structured environment for his men. And that kind of plays into like the um I guess the view that I hate to say stereotype, you know, that we have with the British, like the stiff upper lip and has some structure. I mean, we see that in other movies too. Um, but I just I don't know, I just I just like the as Kate was saying, like the narrow plot um and just the cinematography, the fact that it's filmed on not location, but I mean it's filmed in in Sri Lanka, Ceylon. Um you know, so we had like legit you know jungle scenes and river scenes and all that. Um I don't know. I just I just really like the the narrowness of the movie and you know it's it's it's kind of maybe an anti-war but questioning war without really hitting you over the head. I mean the doctor um um you know Major Clipton, you know, I mean he literally ends the movie by saying, What madness, what madness. And it isn't like he's going around the whole movie saying that.

SPEAKER_06 51:51

But he is one of the chief questioners of the strategy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 51:55

Um so yeah. Jim?

SPEAKER_08 52:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 52:02

Consulting your notes.

SPEAKER_08 52:03

No, I'm not yeah, I guess I am consulting.

SPEAKER_06 52:05

You should. You went to the trouble of making them.

SPEAKER_08 52:10

Is um well, I just think that it uh I think the moral moral story, if you go by the rules, yeah, you get the job done. And that's exactly what happened. He said his officers are not gonna work, so he spends a month and the hot pot is terrible, and they come out, and then the Colonel Sayendi. Say Sayota he is defeat. He's already done. I mean he's he's defeated, and um he knows what he has to do with the uh you know. So anyway, and then everything just falls into place, and the thing that I thought about the the soldiers coming in whistling and this and that, marching in formation, even though they were POWs, they were still British soldiers, and they were still part of the so-called great British Empire. Well, don't hold back. And they were would and they were following ours. I mean, he was the uh Alex Tennessee was the he was so held, he was the glute that held everybody, everybody certainly served as an inspiration to the you know, right?

SPEAKER_10 53:36

Like they all saw him survive the hot box and which is why when he came out of the hot box, they were disorderly for a lack of better term, and then dysfunction of the the construction, right? Of the bridge.

SPEAKER_08 53:54

Yeah. Well anyway, so the bridge gets built, and Alex Guinness is really happy with the outcome of the bridge. And then as an all-plot, something goes wrong. And for some reason or another, the river drops three, four or five feet, whatever the case may be. And then he's looking at it, looking at it, and he doesn't understand, he doesn't get it, right? That well, maybe something else is going on here. So he gets the kernel, and they go down, and they feed the wire, feed the wire, they realize what's going on, and then he realizes what's going on, which leads us into another uh scenario, which I'm gonna go to and then I'm gonna come back to this. Is that if you notice during the movie, the guy, the fellow that the soldiers that was to do the plunging, they were questioning him, could he do that? If the push came to shove, would he have to do his duty? And and he did. Everybody at the end of the movie, regardless of who they were, they did their duty.

SPEAKER_06 55:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 55:10

The Japanese uh colonel tried to cut the wire. That's when the young soldier came out and um and knifed him, and then William Holden, who did not want anything to do with this, but he comes through at the end. He's you know, he comes through at the end, and he gets killed, and then they look at each other and say, Oh you! Oh you're so Alex Gannus so poignant. Yeah. Alex Gannis starts when they started looking, and then and then he says, What have I done?

SPEAKER_06 55:43

Yeah. Finally, after all of that, it dawns on him. What have I done? Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 55:49

Okay, I built a bridge as a prisoner of war which could be accused of treason. Yeah. And then he thinks, well, I'm here to destroy the enemy. But why did I build a bridge to help them destroy us? So, oh anyway, and then he looks at the plunger and he looks at, oh my, oh my, what have I done? Yeah. And he falls on the plunger, and of course, that the plunger goes off, and the train goes into the and but the ironic thing is all the British prisoners crossed the world before. Yeah. So none of those people were killed. So, you know, I I I said that, well, you know, if if you go by the rules, things get done. Yeah. And and then it's just and and the the soldiers, the British soldiers, didn't get a good glimpse of the Japanese what position they were in. There was no real good other than other than just a few people that uh showed them and dragged him out and putting back in and stuff like that. And the one person that was in charge of the bridge, you know, he was devastated. Well, anyway, so but you know, and it it's a matter of who's in control. The British were in control. It took a while for them to get there. And if you think of that, that's the thing of uh mostly of all World War II. We were down at the beginning, but then we rose up to the challenge and we met that challenge and overcame the obstacles that we had to over uh overcome. And you're right, when you said the single-minded, is it was just single-minded on the bridge, and then you realize, what about that?

SPEAKER_06 57:37

It it hits home in those last like 10 minutes to me, because it shows them when they're done hammering that sign up into the tree. And I just I'm watching it going, oh my god, you know, it's like here are these. I mean, it in normal life, it would certainly be something to be proud of. But you know, you're taking a lot of pride. Like, Anne, you talked about the soldiers when he came out of the hotbox, they had been disorderly. And but that's part of like if you're a prisoner of war, you're supposed to like the the code, right, is to like be in the way, which they would be normal behavior. Right. It's like it's to like be in the way. You're not supposed to help, you're supposed to build a shoddy bridge, you're supposed to like yeah, you're supposed to sabotage, you're supposed to try to escape, right? Right, and but then it's like he gets out of the hot box and it all changes, and it's but you just his motivations to me. I mean, it just struck me as convenient to say that this was good for morale to keep order uh order and like it was convenient though, and it was but it it to me it felt like pride, uh, really his his own, but it was also personal. You know, I thought it was very personal.

SPEAKER_08 59:03

And there was no escape, and that was quite evident, right? Before they were told not to be the first few minutes of the movie, and the irony of no fences, right?

SPEAKER_06 59:13

The jungle's gonna get you.

SPEAKER_08 59:15

Yeah, or we're gonna get you before the jungle gets you. Yeah, and they got that.

SPEAKER_06 59:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 59:19

And then um then I I I wrote down here something about did everybody do their job? Yeah, everybody did their job. Holden did his job because he was the Playboy, escaping, yeah, coming back, didn't want to be there, but then when he saw Push came to show, who runs across the river and he gets killed in the process, and then the and then the uh Japanese colonel, what's he doing? He's got all that it's my country, and then he gets killed, and so the the young guy kills that guy, and then Alec Guinness, all time no pun intended, but the rest is history.

SPEAKER_01 59:59

Yeah, so so that's what I kind of found like a little disorienting because the the the the main plot, you know, where um Alec Guinness's character, Lieutenant Colonel uh Nicholson, I mean, he is trying to get his men obviously organized to build the bridge. Like we're not expecting that as an audience, because normally you'd expect the plot to be like your sabotaging and the repercussions and all that. So I was a little disappointed when there was like a couple of the like you know kind of cliches, like the lieutenant, the the British lieutenant who can't, you know, kill the one the soldier that they stumble upon, but then of course redeems himself by killing you know Colonel Saito, which is like, oh of course. I mean that always happens where somebody can't do something, and then you know, like in saving Private Ryan that happens when the the corporal who serves as a as a translator, you know, in the the last parts of the movie where he can't kill a you know a guy, but then he later does, like, well, of course. So um, but I I I do I do like the the fact that the plot is not what we're expecting. Um, in in that like you can call it, you know, you can you can say the British are weird or whatever, but in a way, like we're expecting them to be different. Um there's a there's a this is a little off top. Well not that Kate, you might like this. There was a scene, there's a scene in MASH in one of the MASH episodes where there's a where there's there's a bunch of British prisoners that happen to be, not prisoners, excuse me, uh sick and wounded, and uh the the uh the British commander comes to visit them and and asks them, like read their letters, and you know, he's kind of like kicking them in the rear end, and you know, of course, you know, Hawkeye gets all worked up because it's a different, it's a clash of of like not personalities, but like um Hawkeye, views, thank you, Joe. Yeah, view of the war. And so the colonel's like, no, this is what they expect of me, you know, to be in here and be like, you know, the hard charging leader, you know, he's having them read their letters and all that, and and that softens the the view. So it's it's it's kind of like this. I I kinda like the idea, like that this idea of the British are like different. Um because that's what the movie audience is expecting, and then you know, to make the plot such that it is, it's like, oh that's really different.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:03

Every day.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:04

What do you think, Anne?

SPEAKER_08 1:02:07

Oh, yeah, you have one more say this comment. I gotta read through I got uh distracted about a couple things that I wanted to say. Um saying obviously this. But okay, and then it was a battle. It was a battle of being soldiers or slaves.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:28

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:30

Yeah, that's true. I'm not gonna allow that to happen. Because isn't that what the colonel came out? Didn't even came out. Yeah, isn't that what the colonel came out? You are not soldiers anymore, you're slaves. Right. You know, so he just kind of has a just a little difference there that you say. But I think one of the unbelievable parts, which has always got to be something in the movie, is when Alec Guinness gets out of spending a month, and then all two days later, he's walking around, he's buttoned up and he's gonna put a new uniform off.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:03

Yeah, that is true. Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_08 1:03:06

But that's Hollywood. True. So but um, let me just say this one thing about Anne.

SPEAKER_10 1:03:15

Anne?

SPEAKER_08 1:03:15

Anne. Your wife, my no, not my wife.

SPEAKER_10 1:03:19

She goes, You got another Anne? And did you say Dan?

SPEAKER_08 1:03:26

No, I didn't say dead.

SPEAKER_10 1:03:28

Oh boy.

SPEAKER_08 1:03:28

The movie was over, and she said, This movie won an Oscar Award. Oh, so that's a good explain yourself.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:41

Better say you liked it.

SPEAKER_08 1:03:42

You don't have to. Have you got a different perspective now?

SPEAKER_10 1:03:48

I just have one question. What is the symbolism with maybe it's not a symbolism? What's the purpose of the music? Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:02

So oh uh don't take that. Don't take that microphone away.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:12

The uh play by play is we're having a uh family spat here between uh Jim and Ann. Which I've witnessed many moves.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:21

You mean for the purposes of the movie, or you mean like you mean the whistling and the whole thing?

SPEAKER_06 1:04:26

It is not gonna be significant. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:28

Okay, Mr. Shay, not push the mic.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:32

Text support.

SPEAKER_10 1:04:33

It keeps more like zzz there.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:38

So yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:04:39

That's I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:41

It's about it's like tying this group together, right? It it's like a unifying thing. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:49

Well, gives them a cadence to march.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:51

That's like the practical piece, but it's like for viewers, yeah. For viewers, it's like they clearly are like the morale is getting higher. They're doing this whistling, they're marching.

SPEAKER_10 1:05:04

It seemed very positive.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:05:07

Right. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And so I'm thinking of a prisoner of war, which I think the last time we were here, we talked about being prisoner of war and how devastating that is. Yeah. It was like they looked like they were having fun. And I didn't know that was a thing when you're a prisoner of war.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:28

But marching, marching, the whole purpose of marching is to follow orders and do what you're supposed to do.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:37

Discipline and order. Right.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:39

Regardless of what what it is, what you're going to. And I knew this guy who was in the Marines, and he said they would have different and they go right, go left, go left, and then all these people were coming at each other, and nobody told them to turn, and they just ran into each other. And they just that's what you do.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:00

Purpose of the movie making there were like a version of that word to that song that Columbia Pictures are like, nah, we don't think we want to use those words because they're about Hitler and things. So they ended up doing the whistling. But that's from that's a movie making perspective. Yeah. So instead of singing to the tune, they just whistled.

SPEAKER_08 1:06:20

Keep the boy.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:25

Wow. Anything else, Anne?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:31

Okay. That's just part of the part.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:40

There's not a lot of QA on this part of the thing. It's only on what you did this past week.

SPEAKER_10 1:06:46

Okay, G by Golly Barry.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:49

Okay. Well, I think on the whistling, I think it's it's psychological to psych out your captors so that you let them know you're not getting the better of us. That's right. You may have us prisoner, but you cannot defeat it.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:05

I like that.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:06

And one thing Alec Guinness said, I think it was him, early on in the movie, it's a matter of principle. And that that seems like a very British thing to me. Maybe not British, but he spent 30 days. Yeah, he was not gonna let that go. Were his officers? They were in the same boat.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:29

Yeah, yeah, they were. And they stood there until they fainted. And they finally put him in there. Yeah. So everybody was okay due process.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:37

Yeah. Well, I I didn't have an overall perspective, but I had a lot of little things that I noticed. Um that poor I can't say that poor Japanese colonel, but that guy was in an impossible situation. He there was no way that he could win. I mean, at first he wasn't gonna get the bridge built on time. He told him I'm gonna have to kill myself. And even when the bridge got built on time, his his honor was destroyed. He was shamed forever because his prisoners got the best of him and they accomplished what he couldn't accomplish. And was was that at the very end where he's sitting there with the scroll in front of him and he cuts the hair? Is he was he intending to commit suicide? Well, was he gonna commit suicide because he he failed and he dishonored his family? Perhaps I think so.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:37

That guy, I count I felt kind of sorry for him even though he looked really when they had that in a project meeting to it, it was like he looked beaten.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:45

He was he just yeah, yep. So yeah. So there uh had a question about when William Holden was wherever they were where he got, you know, where he met with those guys and they recruited him sort of. They mentioned who was it gonna be in that meeting, and they mentioned Mountainbatten. Did anybody hear that? Yeah, word in my mouth. So is that Prince Philip? Prince Philip's uncle. It would have been the uncle. We didn't. I just was curious which Mountain Batten was that.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:22

He he's the Mountbatten that the IRA in the 70s during the troubles in Northern Ireland.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:30

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:09:31

Yeah, the last one has found a solution.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:33

Yeah, that was a question.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:36

Yeah, good job. So the thing that's the last box story, right? Yeah, the last one.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:41

Yeah, the thing that I noticed in the the Japanese colonel's office was the American pinup calendar.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:51

Really? That's right.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:53

And it was from Elk City, Ohio. Where? Elk City, Ohio. No, it's on that calendar.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:00

I tr I did go on the internet to try to figure that out. And first is that a real place? No, it's not real. But also, there's no backstory to it. Like, I mean, because normally, like I mean, normally that there would be a story about like there's a stage hand or whatever that had some connection to something.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:15

And like that's there's Yeah, so why does a Japanese prisoner of war colonel in Thailand have an American pinup calendar exhaust? How does he confiscate? Confiscated from confiscated from but who's gonna I mean it was a big prison, not as big as the one you just bought, but but he could have served he could have served somewhere else.

SPEAKER_10 1:10:35

That's true, calendar? You go, Dan.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:39

Because Japan had gotten the surrender of like Thailand and Singapore and all these other places.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:43

Like it could have been did the colonel was it said in the school that he in the movie that he went to school in the United States?

SPEAKER_05 1:10:51

Yeah. No, he went to school in the movie, he went to school in London, didn't he? London. London. The actor that played him went to school in the United States.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:01

Okay, but the but the colonel in the movie, he went to school in London. Yeah. And that's very because we educated a bunch of Japanese people.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:10

But that still didn't explain why he had a American. No, it's a good catch.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:15

I did not know. Weird. I gotta look at that.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:18

Joe's garage in Elk City, Ohio, which doesn't exist. I only want to know the backstory. I know. Because I can going back to MASH, because like, you know, like Corporal Klinger, he's always talking about things in Toledo. Right. And a lot of them are real places or real Tony Packers. Yeah. But this one I was like, oh no.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:35

Yeah. So the last question I had, which you know, obviously doesn't mean anything because it was at the end of the movie. What happened? What do you think happened to that warden? The the the lone guy that did not get killed. What happened to him afterwards? And where, you know, everybody else know the the prisoners were not dead, but that was one of my questions.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:57

You mean Jack Hawkins? Yeah. That he was up on the hill. And the bum football had all of the uh the women. The women the Thai women. And the women had kind of like some affection. Oh yeah. I'm glad you brought that up. Affection. Well, I wasn't about to say anything else, but anyway. But from from the affection, and then he looks at them and they're all dead and says, I did what I had to do.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:27

And he did what he had to do.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:28

Yeah, but he does. But yeah, I just wonder what happened after that. Who found out that that they blew the bridge up and and how did they get him out of it?

SPEAKER_06 1:12:37

Yeah, how did this one guy with a blown-up football?

SPEAKER_01 1:12:40

I mean, we had a one-way mission, but in the context of the movie, nah, he got out safely because it just seemed like it actually wasn't that difficult to get in and out of the area. I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:50

Yeah, I right. I it's a good question. Yeah. It is a very good question.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:56

Um, did those women help him out?

SPEAKER_06 1:12:59

Oh, probably. Of course they did. Surely they did, but they killed.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:03

Well, they're the ones that got him in there. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:06

They certainly got killed. He got killed, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:13:10

I mean, we have to remember how strong women are in the war.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:14

Sure.

SPEAKER_10 1:13:15

And it didn't matter necessarily what side or what, but I really think the majority of women know it's right.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:13:24

And we react that way.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:27

So here, I just want to say one thing about the women in this movie. No. Yes. Nan's not here. I have to carry the flag.

SPEAKER_10 1:13:36

Which flag is it?

SPEAKER_06 1:13:41

You know, it's 2026, and I have to just like make a comment on the women that were in this movie and how they were portrayed. Because I think it's significant. It's something like, you know, these Thai women, and I think like it is absolutely true, Anne. They helped them in and helped them out, and women in war are very strong. I think the part that's contrived in this movie, though, is perhaps the affection and the viewing of these white men, it's very white savior, it's very like, oh, these white men have like, you know, oh, thank God. Thank God for these white men have come to save us, right? And so I think the affection part is maybe a little bit much. I also think, too, I read one little article about this movie that talked about how the producers of the film were upset that the only women in the movie were none, there was not a single white woman in the movie. And so that whole part, well, this was added. The nurse, the white nurse, you know, that's visiting William Holden and his like, you know, dalliance on the beach with the nurse, that was added because the producers didn't like that they're the only portrayal of women and like attractive, you know, the attraction between men and women was between the men and the Thai women at the end. And so they added the nurse stuff in. Um, so it wasn't just like 1957. Yeah. So it is interesting. I mean, when you know that sort of backstory, and then I just I think like uh it's a stretch. Like, of course, the women, the Thai women would be grateful, right? But like this, I don't know, it just takes it a bit too far and makes it a little bit out there for me.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:37

I was torn because I was torn because absolutely the women are strong enough to do like when you look when you look at like the Vietnam War, or as the Vietnamese say, the American War, like women absolutely played a strong role in uh defeating fighting the Americans, right? I mean, no question about it. The trouble I had though is that British Special Operations Unit would probably not use outside for you know personnel. That's the only trouble I had with it. They they would go out on their own to do it. Not because like they they were b had a blind spot, but it's just Well, it was because William Holden knew those people.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:19

I mean, he had a village.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:23

His connection to the village.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:27

But for just from a if I you know were to complain about something, it would be like I don't think the British special operations would be like entrusting a mission to people they don't know because they were on a mission, they wouldn't be like taking a bath in the you know the theory.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:41

Well that, yeah, that was a little there was just there were a few that was a little quirky.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:45

It was but I was torn because I don't think for I don't think for a second that that you know the the the writer of the novel or screenplayer or the producer were trying to say, oh let's showcase strong women, but absolutely for a fact that like the women can carry a larger load than than you might you know think. Yeah, but that they did carry the larger load.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:04

And that yeah, that reminds me though, but weren't they saying, you know, we've only got so much time to get there. Well, why the heck were they playing around in the swimming pool?

SPEAKER_06 1:17:14

Right, correct. I can already tell Dan has thoughts on that.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:18

Jim, did you have something else to say before Dan uh takes a little bit of a little bit of a little bit?

SPEAKER_06 1:17:22

Are you done? Yes. Okay.

SPEAKER_08 1:17:24

I'm just gonna say about the women.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:17:26

Well, the men are probably already dead after the war. So you have to fall back on the head.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:31

Yeah. Yes, I think I think that's true.

SPEAKER_08 1:17:34

So the women had to own up. The women had to own up. Just like the sailor with the knife that kills the kills a giant.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:47

Oh yeah. Whatever I think whatever it takes is definitely.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:50

The difference is that these Thai women are not it's like it's not like it's their fight. That's that's the only difference in this. Yeah. Correct.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:01

They're caught, they're caught here. Correct. Between a rock and a hard place. Okay, they have to be a good thing.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:06

Here Dan Dan is gathering his thoughts, eyes closed.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:11

Biting his time, now pinching of the bridge.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:14

Now I know.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:15

Dan, we also we liked it.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:16

Now I know how the pilot of an airliner feels when it's hijacked and he's got to fly to Havana, Cuba. This podcast has just been hijacked.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:31

For the record, let the record reflect Gene just made the same face that I make every week when you talk about being hijacked or uh mutinied or fill in the blank.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:44

This is a more straight level. We've not mutinated.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:50

I will since since Kate decided to go all man and uh make this all about misogyny.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:58

This is it was I did not make it all about misogyny. I was pointing out some some parts of the movie that just don't quite make it for me. That's you know, there you go.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:12

Okay. Well, this is what I'm gonna say. Uh since Jean has been here, I've been trying to uh verse her in uh uh shows and things that I like to watch. Okay. So uh she's uh known me for a long time, uh and she just laughs about the TV shows I watch. Well, for the first time in her life, I showed her an episode of Naked and Afraid.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:38

Naked Afraid.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:39

Naked and Afraid Classic. No. How could you even spend one second looking at that? It wasn't her choice, Jim. It wasn't her joy her choice, Jim.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:51

Well, but but uh but Jean will uh uh will support me when I told her, I've watched it all the episodes, I know the the the legends, everybody, and and I told Jean that it's usually it's almost always the women who complete the challenge, not the men, because the men are all macho, they've been special rangers, they've been this, they've been that. They don't, it's not about physicality, it's about meant uh the mental ability to handle the pressure. So, anyhow, all you found us out there, Danny Boy's with you. I just wanted to put that out there that uh that uh I believe in strong women, and I'm really struggling to understand how you guys think this about the Thai women because I I just I don't see that at all. But anyhow, moving on. Uh because I thought the Thai women were were I didn't yeah, I just thought they were there, they were strong, they they they knew what they were doing. And I will say this, Polly, I understood Duncan. What you said about the British wouldn't use them. Well the British always used the the natives special operations though. Well, but but it's special operations in the French and Indian War and the Revolutionary War, they always used the natives. Every battle the the British have ever been in, they've always used, you know, the the natives that know the land, that know the geography, that know the territory. So anyhow, okay. Some of the things that I wrote down uh was uh I think it's very important that the uh that the movie begins with the uh the whistling and it ends with the whistling, both beginning and ending. I thought that was very important. Uh when the uh when the Japanese colonel was uh berating the new group that that came in, when he basically said, uh you have surrendered, you're you you have no honor, you surrendered in in Singapore, uh then Alex Guinness basically comes back about the Geneva Convention, and uh Alex Guinness says, Without law there is no civilization. Uh and then the Colonel says, You have been betrayed by surrender, you're not a soldier, you are a slave. And then William Holden, who's in uh has managed to get himself in the sick bay, uh, he just says, he quotes that into the valley of death road the 600 from you know the Charge of the Light Brigade, which I thought was a good American slam on the British. Yeah, that's true. The uh we will talk about the pent-up calendar later. Uh I may have started a new collection of uh this. More or less than more of uh 19 uh 30s and 40s era. Uh sorry, Lily.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:59

I feel like you're the one that doesn't know about this.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:02

Who?

SPEAKER_06 1:23:02

Lily. I'm talking to Lily from uh, you know, on the coast who's listening to this maybe. What is it, Ben upgrade? She's the one who doesn't know about this.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:13

Uh so anyhow, uh He won't answer. You know, Alex Guinness, one of the things he says when they're trying to get him to give it up, he says, it's a matter of principle, if we give up, we will never win. I thought that was the important thing to say. Uh then uh when he gets out of the thing and he comes in and he says, uh, we're going we're going to build a proper English bridge. And then he says to the Japanese colonel, Can I have a cup of tea? And to me, you know, uh every British movie we've seen, they're they gotta have their tea, whether it was last week on Around the World in 80 Days, uh Crisis, it doesn't matter, it's tea time. I thought that was to me, that's when Alex Guinness got in control, is when he said, May may we have tea. Because then the next thing you know, he's getting dinner, he's in charge. Uh and then uh uh Alex Guinness does say to the doctor, You're a fine doctor, but you have a lot to learn about the army. Okay. Uh the bridge is supposed to be to tie the railroad between Bangkok and Rangoon. Uh another thing that is a line that William Holden uses throughout it, because one of the guys said it, then he picks it up, there is always the unexpected. I thought that was a a good line coming through. Uh then uh in Robert Osborne's book, um he describes this movie, or he describes uh the British Colonel, a strict disciplinarian, the British Colonel has a rigid conflict of wills with his Japanese captors over military protocol, and later supervises the building of a railroad bridge for the Japanese without regard for the aid it gives to the enemy, obsessed instead instead with uh proving his battalion is superior to his enemy. And I thought, yeah, you know, that's what he was doing. You don't know how to build this, we're gonna build you a proper bridge, we're gonna get the lumber that was used for the uh the the London bridge that stood for four or five hundred years, you know. And I thought that was uh really uh uh very interesting. And uh then um at the end, uh, and other people have brought this up, I thought that was uh really good. Uh uh when the doctor yells madness, sheer madness. And you know, that pretty much sums up a lot of wars. Yeah. Madness, pure madness. I thought it was a very good movie. Like uh other, like Kate has said, William Holden has always been one of my favorite actors. He had won the Academy Award for Best Actor a couple years before for Style Like 13, uh, which was a very good movie. And one of my favorite uh movies with William Holden is uh Sunset Boulevard, which starts with him face down in a swimming pool dead. Uh that's a if you've never seen Sunset Boulevard, get it and watch it. And then I believe his last movie was one of my favorite movies. Uh SOB was Blake Edwards' uh uh satire on Hollywood, and I was telling Jean about it, she had never seen it. That's the movie where Blake Edwards, who was married to Julie Andrews, flashes her ta-tos.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:49

Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:50

Uh to the Andrews did that?

SPEAKER_06 1:26:54

Yes. How do you solve a problem like Maria?

SPEAKER_03 1:27:00

With the sound of music.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:02

Oh, the jokes write themselves.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:05

She did it for real. She flashed them because they they had to turn a losing musical into an award-winning work.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:14

And that's Edmund.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:16

So, anyhow.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:17

No, I my favorite is Network.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:19

And Network's very good.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:21

My favorite with William Holden's Network.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:23

I love that movie. He and you know, to me, uh, I think his first movie was like 1939. Uh to me, he's almost like a Tom Hanks. You know, he can play just about everything, whether it was a boxer, long career. Long career. Yeah, he was just a great guy. Yeah. So I thought it was a very, very good movie. Uh I saw it as a as a young man. I've saw it once on TV, and I got to see it uh this time with Gene. So I thought, yeah, I liked it.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:55

Yeah. I just want to mention that the producer, Sam Spiegel, was also the producer on On the Waterfront. And he will be the producer on the upcoming Lawrence Arabia film. In a way, I'm I've seen Lawrence Arabia, but I'm kind of looking forward to just because of to compare it to the you know the British.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:11

And plus you went in Arabia. You went to school there.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:14

Yeah, not on the uh West Coast, but yeah. Paul, I yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:19

Wait, where?

SPEAKER_01 1:28:21

I grew up in uh as a kid. My dad had a job in Saudi Arabia, so I grew up.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:25

That's cool. There's any area. Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:31

Hey Paul, I have a uh an update question. Have you uh have you uh sent your uh uh request to become a Canadian citizen?

SPEAKER_01 1:28:40

Traitored it uh trader about a week ago a little over a week ago. Oh I had Paul or Dad. Yeah, why that's why I had to watch Can Canada South Africa match today, you know? Yeah, they won it.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:57

Canada won it right at the end. 91st minute, huh? Yeah, right at the end. Okay, well, I think we've done the movie. Uh I appreciate everything that we want tonight, especially Eddie's uh contribution to the Virginia Mod Platte Empowerment Fund.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:13

Yeah, what $25? Yeah, $25. I didn't find it.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:17

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. We're done, we're done, we're done. Uh so uh we've we're this is gonna be a short week for us, okay? Because Dea, our our precious Dia.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:30

Oh the Indian princess.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:32

The Indian princess is gonna take that big jet bird back to uh back to her home uh come next uh Sunday. So next week this time, Mia will be in the air on the way to London. So we wanted to make sure we had one last uh uh broadcast or podcast with the with the and everybody and Nan and Sam and everybody. So we're going to do it on this coming Friday on July 3rd. Okay. So we're gonna have a short week. It's gonna be Friday on July 3rd. And the movie is Gigi.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:11

So it's such a movie to leave off.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:16

I know.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:16

I wish it was a better movie for you. It's okay, I'm probably not gonna watch it.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:22

So it's fine. We're gonna have French food because it's in France.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:26

Oh boy, okay. And Nan. Nancy. I forgot I'm making creme brulee. That's what I remember.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:33

Oh, yeah. Hey, you stuck you gonna make creme brulee? I'm up for it. I gotcha. We'll have French wine and French food, and then we will listen to like an hour and a half of Nan and Kate going off to deep end about misogyny. And thank God for little goose.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:56

No, I'm leaving you. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:58

She'll be at Wichita Falls listening to it. Oh, so anyhow, uh, final comments of the week. Dea.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:05

Nope, no comments.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:07

Uh okay. I I wanna, I, I wanna, I know I'm gonna see you before you go. I hope you have a great final week here on Roe Avenue and in Dayton. Thank you. We're gonna miss you tremendously. But we will save the tears till next uh Friday. This coming Friday.

SPEAKER_08 1:31:24

Dea? Yeah you could not have been at a better place. And you could have not have been a better house down the street and a house on the corner. Think about it. I know.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:37

Now you're making her cry. This is supposed to be next Friday.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:41

Oh, okay. I know. Way to go, Mr. Moon Pie.

SPEAKER_10 1:31:48

We had to keep up with a better name.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:51

Oh! It's empty. It's empty.

unknown 1:31:53

Thank God.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:55

Oh good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:58

Does Dea know why she's called Moon Pie? She figured it out. Oh, she figured it out. Okay, never mind. We don't need to put that on the podcast. Okay, any any final comments this week?

SPEAKER_06 1:32:08

No, none for this week.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:10

No comments, Dan.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:12

Southbound, Paul. One thing. 10K.

SPEAKER_10 1:32:15

Eddie's up to $55.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:18

I'm so drunk for like the past two days. Jimmy. We thought so.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:24

Final comments. What's coming up this week? Anything you want to say?

SPEAKER_08 1:32:28

No. Well, I don't want to be public about it, but I'm not going to any frickin' 2015 or 200. 250. 2015. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:44

No, no, no, calm down. I know. Let's move on.

SPEAKER_10 1:32:47

Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna finalize for the Ray family that we are extremely excited about the house on 219. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:58

Neil. 219.

SPEAKER_10 1:33:01

And 219 Neil. We actually have a word for coming tomorrow. We are so excited. And we have hired a wonderful architect to send plans into the city, and that we did that. And we are hopefully Airbnb or guests to the neighborhood by your head. Like uh long-term rental residents.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:37

You know, maybe I can turn your walls into my art collection.

SPEAKER_10 1:33:44

A gallery. Because I have been looking at I you know, so it was a weird decoration. I love that whole yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:01

Well this is fun. That house has been so in ruins for so long. Yeah, so the the fact that you have it and you're gonna turn it into something nice is so that's great.

SPEAKER_08 1:34:13

The whole thing about this house is never now. Right. Oh that's awesome. That's my goal. That's great. The goal right now, maybe Airbnb. Who knows? In a year and a half.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:40

You never know. You gotta get the work done.

SPEAKER_10 1:34:46

When Dean comes back to go do G. There you go. Yeah, but better off staying on campus.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:00

That'd be a nice place. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:02

Gene, anything?

SPEAKER_05 1:35:05

I just want to say I have had a lovely time here. I've so enjoyed meeting everybody and just being a part of the family for a couple of days. And tomorrow I head back to Wichita Falls, Texas, in the 100-degree weather. So it's been a nice, a nice weather break, too.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:23

I've enjoyed Well, I think we're about to get a heat wave too.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:27

So actually, I'd rather be in Wichita Falls where the humidity is not 3%.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:34

Yeah, it gets pretty swampy around here. So thank you for coming. It's been great.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:45

Dan.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:46

The only other thing that I I want to add, uh, this is for Eddie because he'll be around when I'm gone or right before I go, I decided what I want for my last meal.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:58

Okay. There you go.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:00

Seafood clay pot from tie nine.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:03

It was that good.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:04

I had the last time I had that was carry out during COVID.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:11

I forgot how effing good that is. It is magnificent. And since it's all biodegradable, maybe you just fill my basket full of clay pot and send me down at St. Kateri with it. I want to thank Paul for picking it up. I want to thank Kate for ordering it.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:33

Yes. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:34

Uh this clay pot, seafood clay pot.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:37

We still have it.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:38

It was delightful. And we still have dessert to do that Kate made uh peach uh cobbler.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:44

So with that, blueberry.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:48

And then we also have uh just plain uh blah blah blah blah fruit salad if anybody wants them. Uh so anyhow, uh I want to thank everybody for coming, especially uh golly berryball. Butterball uh for coming. You know, it's kind of funny because my kids always heard me talk about her. Uh and Marty and Eddie and everybody else, but it was a nickname. And then last year, Jean said, well, no, that's my name.

SPEAKER_06 1:37:18

My actual name.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:20

So with that, I'm gonna say uh Godspeed and fair winds until we meet again, especially Jean, since you're gonna be leaving us tomorrow. With that, we're done.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:33

We have that way.