A tenderhearted story about Loneliness

The pod is back after one week off to talk about Marty--the 1955 Best Picture.  And as a special guest we were glad to have Marty Gehres back at the dinner table to discuss the movie.  All at the table liked this movie and the conversation was one of the more thoughtful ones!

Plus, Nan's lasagna is declared redeemed tonight as dinner consists of Italian food and Pabst Blue Ribbon. So, open a can and listen to the gang discuss this tenderhearted film.

#DinnerwithDan

Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:13

Homegrown beef.

SPEAKER_07 0:14

All right, here's Ron.

SPEAKER_11 0:17

Ron? Ron? Okay, I would like to welcome all our listeners, new and old, from coast to coast and across the globe, to this, the 37th episode of Down with Me. I'm Dan Garrett, your podcast, podcast host, and we're recording on Sunday, June 14th, 2026, from Dayton, Ohio's Historic Five Oaks neighborhood. A solid neighborhood of two-story houses built in the early 1920s on Brook Street lined with hundred-year-old trees.

SPEAKER_00 0:51

Beautiful.

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Beautiful. Great place to raise a family. Or not. My house was built. And to get old. As we all know, June 14th is flag day. So here is a shout out to Old Glory. If you ever want a chill to go up and down your spine, travel to Fort McKinley in Baltimore. Watch the film, and then as the star title banner starts playing, the huge curtains open up to reveal a massive flag flying. I watched it five times in a row when I was there. It's truly awesome. And another notable event on June 14th happened in 2014 when my daughter and her and one-time table member married her U.S. rigged Niagara shipmate, Jake Kestler. Indeed, their time on the tall ship sailing from Erie, Pennsylvania on Lake Erie to Marquette, Michigan on Lake Superior turned into an episode of the Love Book. So Lily and Jane, happy 12th anniversary. Twelve years. And as we all remember, I had t-shirts made up for the after party that said don't give up the party. And you guys all warmed down to the Oregon district. And despite being young, Eddie got served. Because everybody had pink shirts on, and everybody thought, well, okay, they're all cool. At the table tonight, we have regulars Dan Whaley, Sam Ron, Dia, Paul Duncan Robinson, Kate Evans, and I think my son Eddie may be joining us. But I also have another son here, Marty. Special guest, who's making his second guest appearance.

SPEAKER_08 2:43

Is he the first one to be the second guest to repeat? First repeat guest.

SPEAKER_04 2:48

I think so.

SPEAKER_08 2:50

Welcome. That's pretty impressive, Marty.

SPEAKER_04 2:52

Yeah, big time. I've made it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 2:55

I wasn't here when you were there, so this is the first time we've sat at the table together.

SPEAKER_11 3:00

Uh and he is here, of course, because the Oscar-winning picture we are going to review tonight is 1955's Marty. Marty. Okay, so what's for dinner tonight, which we shall call the redemption dinner.

SPEAKER_08 3:15

Okay. I tried again and made a meat lasagna that is much more edible than the first lasagna. It's good. And I made an eggplant lasagna as well. The eggplant lasagna is always very good. Um the meat lasagna seemed to have been my challenge lately, but I think it's very tasty tonight. I've I've tried it and I like it. Um with meat from the yayne for it. Oh yes, and the meat is from Yane's plains. There you go. Uh and it has no garlic in it, of course, onions, um, mushrooms, uh, peppers, and pesto with it.

SPEAKER_11 3:53

Monica and Gary Yane being two people who taught Nan Whaley when she was an all-girls Catholic school.

SPEAKER_04 4:01

They are also my aunt and uncle.

SPEAKER_08 4:02

Marty's anti-so that's what we have, and then Kate, what did you make?

SPEAKER_10 4:10

I made a salad that is kind of an antipasta salad with mozzarella and artichokes and olives and tomatoes and basil and lettuce and vinegar. And then I have bread from Aunt Dorothy. Dorothy Land. Dorothy. Um, and I brought a 12-pack of PBR for Dan's request. There you go.

SPEAKER_11 4:39

And it left the record also reflect that since this movie is heavy Italian, Kate is our resident of hard Italian. Right? You're half Italian.

SPEAKER_10 4:51

I guess I'm the yeah, I guess I'm the one. Yeah, you're the one. There you go.

SPEAKER_11 4:56

Okay, well, it's been two weeks since uh uh we've dined together. And uh Ann Whaley, I'll let you start off with your busy time.

SPEAKER_08 5:09

Well, we missed last week because of me. I was in Long Beach, California with all the equipment um doing um podcast recordings for my other podcasts, because you know one can't have enough podcasts. Uh Carrie as you climb. I did nine recordings. Whatever you listen. I did nine recordings of um nine different mayors while I was there, female mayors that were great. Uh two and a half days. Two and a half days. Uh huh. I did nine interviews. And then um had still had time to take in a sublime concert in Snoop Dogg. You know, watching Snoop Dogg with 200 mayors, I highly recommend. Also, Snoop Dogg received the key to the city of Long Beach. He's from Long Beach.

SPEAKER_11 5:56

Um who were the mayors you interviewed?

SPEAKER_08 5:58

I interviewed the mayor of Phoenix, Tucson, Miami, Florida, Columbia, Missouri, uh, Alexandria, Virginia, Beaverton, Oregon, um, Fontana, California, Riverside, California. I'm missing one. Oh, um, yeah, Beaverton. Yeah, so nine of them, but yeah. Um, really all diversity, you know, Latina, African American, white ladies. It's really fun. Um and um, yeah, I had a great time in Long Beach seeing some friends, really enjoyed myself. And um, I'm wearing, I'm excited because I became I'm I I really was excited how surprised this NBA final was with the Knicks. Like the town went crazy. Um, of course, I don't know any of the players, but I enjoyed reading about New York, being excited about the Knicks in the New York Times. Would you like some salad, Eddie? Here, can you put this back around there? Um, and uh I got this hat New York or Nowhere last year when we visited and we went to a Mets game, and the Mets, the Mets and the Um Knicks have like the same colors, and so they kind of like have this co-branding. And so this New Yorker Nowhere is like the brand of like finals or nowhere, and then New York, you know, um all the places are nowhere. So it was really cool. Um so I've enjoyed that. I mean, I like those those Spurs players are young, and you know, I feel bad for them, but man, the city of New York City's been on fire for this NBA, so that's been really fun to watch. Um, and then um I think those are like my big my big actions of the past two weeks since I saw you all. Um just been working hard too, but that's not as exciting as Long Beach in seeing Snoop Dogg. Snoop Dogg does not dance because you know he's so high, he just moves his arms like this, you know, up and down. And um the blunts were like nine inches long. I definitely got a contact high. Um, and they had other Long Beach rappers that I don't know, as I don't partake in rap culture, but I did like I know Snoop Dog, and they did like it was like the story of his career, you know, because he also was arrested for murder. So, you know, they go through that. They they um uh, you know, I don't know if you remember MTV had Kurt Loader, who was like the guy that gave the MT News, so they had like the video of Kurt Loader talking about Snoop, you know, um not losing the um or you know being acquitted or whatever. And then uh um lots of women on polls with like no clothes on. No clothes on. I mean, they had clothes, but then they'd like widen their legs and it was like ah, you can see everything there.

SPEAKER_04 9:05

Um so So your Midwestern sensibilities were just on fire.

SPEAKER_08 9:10

It was a little wild, you guys. And um uh keep in mind the audience.

SPEAKER_10 9:16

Snoop uh bunch of bears.

SPEAKER_08 9:18

Snoop got uh the key to the city, to which Snoop got a little like verklumped and then said this should have happened years ago, which I thought was pretty funny. Um so that was interesting. Um the mayor of of Long Beach. I mean, he he put on a hell of a show for us. Like we had like we went to the aquarium one night, and um the you know, people bring their kids to these summer meetings, like the mayors bring their kids, and so you're in the aquarium, and then there are mermaids, like swimming with all the other things, and so the kids are like, see, I knew mermaids were real, like uh and had like great music everywhere, and then you know, the sublime concert was one night. Uh the late night was on the Queen Mary, uh, you know, so like it was a great party, and uh got to see like all my mayor friends, which I enjoyed a lot. I'd missed them, so yeah, so it was a really fun, fun weekend. Um Long Beach is a nice city, it's a fun town. It was like 72 degrees, really nice and temperate. Um, so that's what I did um did this this past weekend. Thank you for letting me take the equipment and missing one of the dinners with Dan to get that done. Um, but that podcast, I mean, I um I just dropped Desiree Tim's Friday, uh, who's our state rep, and you know, keeps on plugging along. It's good, it's a good little podcast. So and then this weekend we had great dinners. We had dinner with Dennis Langer and Ellen Belcher, um, where Dennis and Sam discuss um the rest is history, their favorite podcast, because Dennis introduced that podcast to Sam. So Sam's very excited about that. They also discussed how much they love Dan Garris coming to the uh the judges' meeting at the Medicare Lounge every month. And they love that Marty comes to visit and how nice Marty is to all the older judges, even though he doesn't have to. So that was the discussion.

SPEAKER_00 11:17

Very respectful.

SPEAKER_08 11:19

So they discussed that. True. They they like uh especially Dennis, this love of the Garrett family from the the monthly judge races, judge judge meetings is like a big part of our conversation at dinners.

SPEAKER_11 11:31

And we have one tomorrow.

SPEAKER_08 11:33

Oh, he told me. He told us, and then we had dinner with Tori and Michael last night, and then we had uh brunch with Katie and Rush Joseph this morning. So we've had like gotten around to see people, it's been nice. I don't know what Sam's gonna say.

SPEAKER_03 11:46

I know you always you always take so much of what I would add.

SPEAKER_08 11:49

So much time together, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:51

But I did have my mother and my niece visit last weekend, uh, and that was great. Um we went to a couple of the splash parks in Dayton, she had big time there. Uh we went to the Carillon Park, saw the history there. We went to King's Island. Uh we we yeah, we had a really nice time. Uh she's she's only nine, but she she's gotten into steak, so we went to the pine club. Yeah, as are they a sponsor yet?

SPEAKER_11 12:27

The day they're a sponsor, the day it's no longer dinner with me.

SPEAKER_03 12:34

Uh yeah, but she polished off a uh a small fillet. So that was impressive. Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 12:41

And and she lived to talk about it.

SPEAKER_03 12:45

Oh, yeah, Pine Club is great.

SPEAKER_11 12:49

Bill Gates ate there two weeks ago.

SPEAKER_10 12:51

You and Daniel are the only ones that don't like that.

SPEAKER_04 12:55

Well, Marty, you don't have to.

SPEAKER_10 12:57

I know.

SPEAKER_04 12:58

I can't tell you, Marty. This is like medieval times. Your taker translates down to your kids, and then transferred to my children, the children after that. I'll be taking Izzy to Pinewell now.

SPEAKER_03 13:13

That's right. As soon as she's old enough.

SPEAKER_10 13:15

Julie and Izzy will come to my water.

SPEAKER_04 13:16

Julie goes by herself.

SPEAKER_03 13:20

Yeah, we'll be taking the rest of them there.

SPEAKER_04 13:22

They wronged my father in the 70s. February of 1976.

SPEAKER_11 13:31

To be exactly two different owners ago.

SPEAKER_02 13:33

I think it was two or three owners ago. 50th anniversary, wow.

SPEAKER_04 13:36

The establishment's still called Pine Club.

SPEAKER_11 13:39

But I'm telling you, Marty, that's between me and the Pine Club, not you. Okay. There you go. So you can go.

unknown 13:47

He keeps trying to release you from this allegation. He does this about everything. And then if I went, he'd be so disappointed. No, I wouldn't.

SPEAKER_11 13:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 13:56

Sounds like therapy student here now.

SPEAKER_00 13:59

Yeah, really.

SPEAKER_11 14:00

Well, all I can say, if you hear I died at punk club, murder.

SPEAKER_03 14:08

You know it's murder.

SPEAKER_06 14:11

Oh, tell that Darius. Darius.

SPEAKER_03 14:14

Oh, so the other and then the other big news on the block is that that our neighbor and friend and city commissioner Darius Beckham was married with uh an elopement. So yeah. Yeah, it's it's what I what I wanted to do with Nan until uh her father withdrew the uh the $10,000 he'd been offering us to elope.

SPEAKER_08 14:40

We said, okay, we'll do it. And then dad's like, just kidding. Never mind. Just kidding.

SPEAKER_03 14:46

Yeah, he didn't think we'd take him up on it.

SPEAKER_05 14:48

That's fine.

SPEAKER_03 14:49

Call it his bluff.

SPEAKER_05 14:51

Alright, dear. Um, I don't remember a lot, because it's been two weeks, but I watched two other movies apart from the movie Marty. Um I watched Disclosure Day. Oh. Which is about aliens.

SPEAKER_10 15:05

Yeah, was it good? It's Fielberg.

SPEAKER_05 15:08

It was it was pretty cool. I I don't know if it was worth like a second watch, but it was good enough for like a first watch. Um and I also watched Obsession, which was probably like the most uncomfortable, weird movie I've ever seen. Yeah. That was pretty bad. Yeah, no that I had a good time. I did some art here and there. Um spent time with friends.

SPEAKER_11 15:34

Wait till you watch an Academy Award winner called Silence of the Land. You won't sleep for a month.

SPEAKER_01 15:42

What is that about?

SPEAKER_03 15:43

It's uh sleep for a month. It's about a serial killer who eats people. And the hunt for the serial killer. And the hunt for the evil wonder. That's icy.

SPEAKER_04 15:52

Buffalo Bill.

SPEAKER_05 15:55

Yep, that was it.

SPEAKER_11 15:57

So uh school's over, right? So you're just a lady of leisure now.

SPEAKER_07 16:01

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_11 16:01

Okay. Uh Marty, you're here.

SPEAKER_07 16:04

Yay, Marty.

SPEAKER_04 16:05

Marty is here. Uh I don't know if I'm supposed to go back two weeks. Two weeks, yeah. But okay, two weeks is a lot. So, what was the last last weekend we had Pride Parade, which my office walked in in March. Uh, my child was with us. Both children were with us. So it was Vera's first pride parade. And Izzy's third? Uh it might be her fourth, actually. I have to go remember. Uh, because she has not missed a pride since she's been born. So she's been in every single pride. So it would be her fourth. Yeah, it would be her fourth. Um after that, we had a great evening. Just made some dinner and other things like that. Then this past week, Izzy started soccer on Tuesday. So she is now in soccer.

SPEAKER_08 16:56

That has to be a hoot.

SPEAKER_04 16:58

Oh, it's very uh entertaining. Are you coaching? No.

SPEAKER_10 17:03

Then you're not on the soccer coach, right?

SPEAKER_04 17:05

In fact, my wife has already declared that she is gonna be the coach. She doesn't want me to coach, she wants to coach.

SPEAKER_11 17:11

She played.

SPEAKER_04 17:12

She played soccer and softball, so she wants to be the coach.

SPEAKER_11 17:14

Oh, that's great.

SPEAKER_04 17:15

I think that will last until she actually has to be the coach, and then's like, no, I don't want to do this. You're in.

SPEAKER_03 17:22

She may prefer having a break. Has she seen small children play soccer before?

SPEAKER_04 17:28

I don't know if she fully understands what that's gonna entail.

SPEAKER_10 17:34

They all just like run around the ball, right?

SPEAKER_08 17:36

It's like well, this young, they don't even run around the ball, they just kind of stand there.

SPEAKER_04 17:39

They just kind of stand there. Uh we've been practicing soccer, so she knows how to kick, but she doesn't really know what else is going on. Uh this this weekend, so we'll go to this weekend. Uh Friday night, we went to the Dragons game, Isabel and I, with the Mooches and the Orion. So we saw Vince and Mary Grace, Chris, Juliet, and Kit, Isabel and I. And we got home. No Rita? No Rita. Rita had a softball tournament in Bowling Green, Kentucky.

SPEAKER_10 18:14

Oh my god, yeah, she's looking alive. It's what you do all summer. It gets it's a lot, it's intense.

SPEAKER_04 18:21

Uh and then Saturday, yesterday, we went to a kid's birthday party. We went and got donuts, then we went to the dump. Izzy likes going to the dump with me.

SPEAKER_03 18:32

Interesting.

SPEAKER_04 18:34

Because we go get donuts after. But she likes the dump. Yeah. So dump to donuts is what it is. And then we had a birthday party yesterday for uh my buddy Russ and Alex's child named Daphne at the Silly Goose, which is like a coffee shop, very millennial, that is for children, but the parents get coffee, so it's nice. Um after that, we came home and we went to bed. Today we got up, I walked the dog, went to Kroger's with my wonderful child. She threw in goldfish and all everything else in the cart that she could carry. The Siebenthaler Kroger's. I cannot go to that any longer. I have made a decision today. I can't do it.

SPEAKER_08 19:25

Yeah, we had to leave it a few years ago. I had to stop a few minutes.

SPEAKER_04 19:28

They had two registers open.

unknown 19:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 19:31

And I waited in line for 30 minutes. And if you try to wait in line with a toddler, it's not very effective. Uh after that, we went to Boonshaft, and now we're here. So it was a pretty good overall, pretty good weekend.

SPEAKER_08 19:47

What a busy weekend. Wow, I'm tired of listening to that.

SPEAKER_04 19:50

And then this week is Julie and Mai's anniversary on Tuesday. How many years? We got married in 2018.

SPEAKER_11 19:59

Eight years. Eight years. So last night, uh, after I watched both news, 7 and 2, I went upstairs.

SPEAKER_10 20:09

You didn't watch 545.

SPEAKER_11 20:14

Uh went upstairs, got to that, and I liked the channel surf. And I went to hit 50, which is the Discovery channel on Skype. But I hit five. And there on the TV was Marty with Izzy on his shoulders at the Pride Parade. No, look at that! How about that? And she was on your shoulders waving her flag.

SPEAKER_01 20:41

So cute!

SPEAKER_11 20:43

I don't know if you can get a copy of that or not, but they had your whole uh group on it marching. I I think they announced you because they were announcing everybody else. Uh so yeah, so I saw Izzy, but then I also saw Izzy and Marty Friday night because on Dayton CW they had the Dragons game on. So when the Dragons game's on TV, I text our people who are there and I say, wave at me. So I can record and wave. So I've got Marty and Julie and Mary Grace and everybody else waving.

SPEAKER_04 21:21

And you know who was in front of us at the Dragons game? The governor. Dewine was there.

SPEAKER_11 21:26

Oh god. He wasn't the tall guy blocking out because he was tiny. Yes.

SPEAKER_10 21:34

Did he see him for the same room?

SPEAKER_04 21:36

He was on the first row, and everybody was like, Is that him? And I was like, I think he needs to be smaller. And then he stood up and I was like, No, that's him.

SPEAKER_11 21:45

That's him. Hilarious. Uh, for those around the country that don't know, uh but Table Mate Dan Whaley ran for governor against him in twenty twenty two.

SPEAKER_08 21:57

Yes. The incredible shrinking man. Very tiny manny comes up to my hip.

SPEAKER_04 22:03

I think that's why he's refused to debate you.

SPEAKER_11 22:06

So small, he's a bit intimidated. I think. Yeah, no use going up against an ammo.

SPEAKER_03 22:12

I would have needed five phone books. I don't make them anymore.

SPEAKER_02 22:19

Okay, Paul. Oh wow. Um this past Friday, um, I had a friend of mine in town with his family. They live in San Antonio, and uh must not be huge Spurs fans or whatnot, but uh they uh they took the Cincinnati Riverboat dinner cruise, and I had never done that, and I hadn't seen him for several years. I've done that. Yeah, I was. It was fun. We did that with my mom and dad. It started at 7:30, and so you got a little bit of that twilight uh just because of the you know the time of year we are now, and uh I mean the food was fine, but uh it was just good to catch up. Um he has a couple kids that I think are like seven, eight, and ten. And uh apparently every Sunday they get together and they'll talk, um, you know, no screens, no nothing. And because they knew they were coming here, they encouraged the kids to think of a couple questions um, you know, to ask me about my hike, and I said, Well, try to come up with a question no one's ever asked me. I mean, obviously they don't know what that is, so they're trying to get creative. And uh, one of the questions is like, Was there any hiker that you didn't want to see again? And I was like, That's a good one. I said, No one's ever asked me that. That's a good question. Yeah, yeah, you've won. So that was kind of fun. Um what else? Uh oh, uh the week prior to that, we went to um a friend of ours whose son was graduating uh high school and will be attending University of Cincinnati in the fall. Uh go Bearcats. But at that uh party reception, there was a guy there who had hiked the trail last year also, but he's a two-time hiker, Dan, but both northbound. So we did what people do in that situation. Dan just got a glitch in his eye. So we traded uh, you know, trail stories from last year, and uh he had a um um his his uh trail name was simple, although I didn't ask why, but he had a friend who was there, Kevin, and Kevin did a great job of uh asking questions of both of us and facilitating the conversation as we uh reminisced about last year. Uh what else? I had lunch with Sam Braun at uh Old Scratch Pizza. All right. Um also had lunch with a friend of actually originally a friend of Sam's roommate and then a friend of mine, uh Demetri and Enamolitis.

SPEAKER_08 24:25

Demetrius Enampolitis.

SPEAKER_02 24:26

Yes. Oh yeah at Double Days in Centerville. Oh, the people married a Zavacas.

SPEAKER_08 24:33

Yeah, we uh They met at Greek camp.

SPEAKER_02 24:35

We uh we crossed paths at uh Kerasaur, so that's uh his wife had cancer, she's doing okay. She's doing okay right now.

SPEAKER_08 24:43

Good.

SPEAKER_02 24:43

Yeah. Um what else? I think I've probably forgot some things, but uh watching some world. Your citizenship stuff. Oh no.

SPEAKER_10 24:54

Yes, you might as well bring it up on the pod.

SPEAKER_02 24:57

So um I shared with Sam at lunch um that uh I apparently I'm eligible for uh for Canadian citizenship. Really? Which actually probably doesn't adequately describe it because can uh Canada back in December retroactively uh changed their citizenship laws by descent. So because my grandmother was born in Quebec, it appears that I'm actually considered a French uh French, a Canadian citizen, um, but I have to submit the paperwork, as would my mom, my mom because it's her mother, and then Mia would be eligible too. But none of us have to, we're all independent, like we could all one could mix, you know, have to you have your mom do it to do it. You just have to find as I say show the line. Yeah, show the line to you, as I say, you're anchor ancestor.

SPEAKER_08 25:40

Um you decide to do this.

SPEAKER_02 25:42

I'm waiting for a signature page for my mom, and then uh probably submitted. Yes, yeah. So, yes, yeah, everything's ready to go.

SPEAKER_08 25:50

Canada is a great country.

SPEAKER_02 25:51

Yeah, yeah, thanks for the support. So I don't know how long that's gonna take. Um, but uh yeah, it's wow. I was I was telling Sam that it was it's kind of mind-boggling because I mean you know, it was like I grew up thinking this is a possibility, and then you know, obviously back in December Canada changed a lot. And uh Dan's giving me a look, that's okay. Um wait till he hears my opinion on Marty. Um but uh it's okay, Dad.

SPEAKER_04 26:18

You know, it's uh Canada's gonna be the 51st state. Haven't you listened to the president?

SPEAKER_12 26:23

That's right.

SPEAKER_02 26:24

It's French Canadian debut. Well, yeah, so I I told Mia that you know it should quebec the seat one day. Maybe she could be a triple citizen to quote back Canada, United States. Um I don't know how Is Mia gonna do it? She's gonna do it, yeah. Yeah. So um I don't know how long the the paperwork will clear, but uh I don't know, we might be watching uh Hannibal uh Silence of the Lambs by the time it happens, but we'll see. Okay.

SPEAKER_08 26:55

So you could come at you can come to Block Party, and when we do the opening, you could be our special guest.

SPEAKER_03 27:04

No, you're gonna have to sing it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. You have to sing it. You already know.

SPEAKER_11 27:11

Yeah. Because I used to have to sing it at Circle K all the time.

SPEAKER_02 27:14

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 27:15

He knows it. Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_02 27:16

I know the I I know the first verse in French, so I mean You know it in French? Yeah. I'm prepared. No, I'm not doing that. I'm waiting, I'm waiting, I'm waiting.

SPEAKER_08 27:24

Waiting till block party where we start.

SPEAKER_02 27:27

You broke my heart. But you know, I watched the uh Canadian Bosnia World Cup and Alanis Morissette saying the uh anthem where they blew into two languages. She's Canadian. I was able to uh, you know.

SPEAKER_11 27:36

Also, also for broke my heart, Pauly.

SPEAKER_10 27:39

Wait, does this make him not your hero anything?

SPEAKER_11 27:43

Broke my heart. He talked about all the lunches except the one he had with me.

SPEAKER_02 27:47

I had lunch with Dan. That was all that was almost two weeks ago, it's my memory. Gosh darn it.

SPEAKER_10 27:51

Yeah, he wasn't done yet. Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 27:55

He wasn't finished. He spent four and a half hours having a few. No, he wasn't yet.

SPEAKER_02 28:00

Yeah, so Dan and I Dan and I Dan and I did the usual uh Jimmy Johns. I brought Jimmy Johns over and uh uh we chatted.

SPEAKER_08 28:09

Um I'm just excited that you can be our special guest at the block party as we are Canada at 217. We decorate our house in Canada. And then people were like, Nan, I had no idea you're Canadian, and I'm like, I'm not.

SPEAKER_11 28:24

You'd be Southern Indiana.

SPEAKER_08 28:26

Just random, it's just a random part of the party.

SPEAKER_11 28:29

You'd be a Larry Bird person. Yep, that's right. Okay, Paul, you done? Yeah, I'm done. Kate?

SPEAKER_10 28:38

Well, I can tap none of this. I also walked in the Pride Parade two weekends ago with my office with Carl Keith, um, the county auditor. And then I went and bought more plants for my garden, and I planted plants. Um, not all of them, because I was still planting plants this past weekend, and my sister helped me finish because I was like losing steam big time. Um and I worked a lot, and I thought we weren't allowed to talk about working. All I say is I've worked a lot. Say that. Okay. Perfect, thank you. And golden response. Yeah, that's really it. I haven't done much that's classified as like fun, really.

SPEAKER_08 29:30

We had drinks, we had gin's we had gin's on the porch yesterday. My sister we had so much gin. We had so much gin, we had to take an Uber to the dinner because we had already drank too much to drive. So we Ubered there and back, which was a very good decision.

SPEAKER_11 29:46

Well, that's very responsible.

SPEAKER_08 29:48

We are responsible drinkers.

SPEAKER_11 29:51

Well, as you guys know, I write things down.

SPEAKER_08 29:54

Yes.

SPEAKER_11 29:56

I had uh four great meals at Legacy. Yeah. The official buyer of dinner with him. And I have written this down, even though Paul forgot it. Paul came bearing subs one afternoon, and we talked nonstop for almost five hours. Do you not remember that? Which is not the longest we have talked. He is still saying he is still saying no to going southbound on the Appalachian Trail. That was not all five hours apart. But I think what he'll do the next time is he'll go northbound, and when he gets to Maine, he'll just keep walking to Canada.

SPEAKER_08 30:33

Because yeah, he's a citizen now. He can keep on going.

SPEAKER_11 30:38

Okay, uh, so my big decision came this week when I decided uh that the rosebud in a backyard uh that was planted in 2006 in memory of my father, Wayne Garris, who passed away that year, had to go. Uh the tradition on Row Avenue used to be that when someone dies in your family, everybody would pitch in and buy a tree or another plant and in memory of the deceased. My neighbors got a rosebud seedling from FDR's Hyde Park.

SPEAKER_08 31:14

How nice.

SPEAKER_11 31:15

After 20 years it finally grew out of control despite being trimmed three or four times. It completely enveloped all the overhead wires going into the house and also my neighbor's house, Damien's house. And during storms, I became increasingly afraid that the rubbing of the wires and the bouncing back and forth on the limbs was going to eventually take the wires down. Uh so I had to take it down on Tuesday, but I did keep a large section of the trunk of the rosebud uh that I'm gonna cut into four slices, uh, one for each of my children in their Grandpa Garrett's memory. Oh, yeah. So you guys are gonna get that eventually.

SPEAKER_04 31:58

I didn't know the whole thing came down. I thought you were planning on just trimming it.

SPEAKER_11 32:03

It's gone. Because it was just gonna go right back into it, and it had got so out of control. So hopefully this week I'm gonna try to get a hold of a fence guy, and we'll put a new fence in. And then I'm gonna get a hold of Eddie's friend Danny Perez, who used to be one of my probation officers, who married into the Kasugis that owned North Dayton Garden Center.

SPEAKER_10 32:30

His wife worked for us for a period of time.

SPEAKER_11 32:32

And then have him come over and uh show us where to plant a new rosebud. Plus, I'm gonna get lilacs, which was Virginia's favorite flower, because we had lilacs in our wedding, uh, and plant them away from the new fence and away from where they get in with the wires. And then also work out some deal with an Arbanus. Arbanus? Yeah, arborist. Uh, who can uh come and like every other year trim them back. With these just got out of control with COVID and with Virginia getting sick, and it was just it was just it, you know, I'd sit in my bedroom when it was storming and watching the wires.

SPEAKER_10 33:14

Oh no, is this the night?

SPEAKER_11 33:16

And you know, the worst thing is uh I you know you lose your telephone, you lose your cable, big deal. But it was the electrical wires to our house and to Damien's house. And I just thought, you know, if that went down in a storm, we'd have to get the tree taken out. Oh yeah. And so, you know, in a big storm, you know, the tree to take care of the tree guys are really busy. Um but anyhow, so I had that done. Uh so uh then uh other than having my heart broke a couple times here at the dinner table.

SPEAKER_10 33:51

Way to go, Paul. I know. We're gonna be able to do it.

SPEAKER_11 33:57

Sad playing the fender violin because he couldn't play a role violin.

SPEAKER_10 34:02

I know.

SPEAKER_11 34:03

Yeah, there you go. Okay, so uh I think that was it.

SPEAKER_10 34:10

You think? You didn't miss anything?

SPEAKER_11 34:12

So tonight, okay, we're gonna move on to the feature film of this production. And I think this is our 27th, this is the the 1955 uh Best Oscar. Uh it's called Marty. Uh it won for Best Picture, and that year it was up against Love is a Many Splendid Thing, Splendid Things, Mr. Roberts, Picnic, and The Rose Tattoo. It also got Best Actor for Ernest Fortnine. Uh, and he beat out Screen Legends for Best Actor, James Cagney, James Dean, Frank Sinatra, and Spencer Tracy. Damn. Wow. Wow. Those are some heavy hitters.

SPEAKER_08 34:57

What was Frank Sinatra in?

SPEAKER_11 34:58

Uh Man with the Golden R. Man with the Golden R. That's probably one of his best roles. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 35:05

Paul's got lots to say, I can tell. He's chopped them. He was great.

SPEAKER_11 35:09

Kid also got it for directing for Robert Mann and Delbert. Delbert Mann. Delbert, okay. Delbert Mann.

SPEAKER_08 35:18

Don't mess Kate's are Resident Italian and movie Afficionado. I promise Delbert. Yeah, it is Delbert. She knows these things. You don't mess with Kate.

SPEAKER_11 35:28

And screenplay by Patty Chachevsky. Chaevsky. Chaevsky. Okay. So we know it was uh the screenplay was written, but it was originally done as a television play. Uh with Rod Steiger and Nancy Marchon uh playing the the Who's Nancy Marchon?

SPEAKER_10 35:48

Livia Soprano.

SPEAKER_08 35:50

Oh, really? Is the Livia Soprano?

SPEAKER_10 35:53

Tony's mom.

SPEAKER_08 35:54

Oh, interesting.

SPEAKER_11 35:55

I came across that. So Marty became the first born in TV drama to win the Academy's best picture authors. Wow. And interestingly enough, they made the whole movie on a slim budget of $343,000.

SPEAKER_10 36:11

Wow.

SPEAKER_11 36:12

Which is, you know, I believe that's not much money at all.

SPEAKER_10 36:15

Yeah, I believe that though.

SPEAKER_11 36:16

Okay, so as I have done in the past, I'm going to read the back of the uh DVD box. Uh I've been looking for a girl every Saturday night for my life, says Marty Pellini? Pallini. I mean, played by Russian. Yet despite all his efforts, this 34-year-old Bronx butcher remains as shy and uncomfortable around women today as on the day he was born. So when he meets Clara, Betsy Blair, a lonely school teacher who's just as smitten with him as he is with her, Marty's on top of the world. But not everyone around him shares Marty's joy. And when his friends and family continually find fault with Claire, even Marty begins to question his newfound love until he discovers in an ex in an extraordinary way the strength and courage to follow his heart. So, Nan.

SPEAKER_08 37:17

No, Kate should go first on this one. Kate. Oh. Yeah, because Paul has notes like that side of the side of the mess.

SPEAKER_10 37:24

Yeah, I was just gonna say it doesn't have to be notes starting. Kate, go. Okay.

SPEAKER_08 37:28

Well put the mic closer to your mouth.

SPEAKER_10 37:30

I I like this movie like well enough. It is not up there in my favorites. Um one of the best things about it, and I don't mean this in a negative way, is that it is 88 minutes long. If it had gone any longer, the story would have devolved into something that I don't think any of us wanted to see. I think like the fact that it takes place over a couple days is perfect. Um, I think Ernest Borgnine and uh the woman that plays his love interest, I think Betsy Blair Betsy Blair, I think they convey, you know, the what the story is about very well. I don't think it needed to go on any longer. Um, it's uh they I thought you know the portrayal was was good for both of them. Um what I really laughed about, and I I've seen this movie like maybe once before, what really stuck with me, and maybe this is because I have you know Italian in my blood here, and I know so the mother, the uh Catherine and the mother, and like these Twittering Italian pants and the way they talk to each other, like I know those ladies. Like, I definitely know those ladies. Um and you know, just the way they talked about their kids and the way they lived for their kids, and just like you know, I could absolutely relate to uh the old Italian ladies trying to like rule your life, but be like, well, you know, it's but it's your life to live, but they really are like telling me. But in a bad thing, but you're not very good at this, I'm gonna tell you what to do. But what do I know? But what do I know? Um, and you know, just the sentiment of like living for their kids, and you know, the the whole spiel from the aunt about like how uh as widows they're it's like the worst possible scenario, and you know, they don't it the woman has uh uh the daughter-in-law who has like taken her place, and she is struggling with that. Like it's all I could I I know these ladies, and I it's just it was so that was entertaining, and like the whole idea that like at 34 he's over the hill and he's never gonna find anybody, so like I you know, he'll take care of me the rest of my life, and you know, just all of that, it's like spot on.

SPEAKER_11 40:22

And she's 29 and she's 29 and she's a spinster.

SPEAKER_10 40:25

Yeah, when I wasn't married at like 24, my like cousins and the aunts and uncles thought I was like, it was like, oh, she's a spinster now. I mean, I can so I can absolutely relate, and it's that side of the family. They and you know, it's like my mom, if these were even people in my mom's generation, so you know.

SPEAKER_08 40:48

They would be like Marty's, more like Marty's, a little older than Marty, younger than Marty, Marty.

SPEAKER_10 40:53

Younger, yeah, younger than Marty, because they were born when this movie came out. So, like my you know, my my parents are Dan's age, and so it's like my mom's cousins and like those folks, they all got married like right out of high school, and like the fact that my mom left and went to college, she like left the small town, went to college, like left the family. All this is very relatable to me.

SPEAKER_11 41:18

So if you remember in the movie, they the the the Italian ladies say, oh, those college girls are just one step from the street. One step from the street, one step from the street. And that one step from being a street walker, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 41:33

I was dying laughing because it truly like I my mom, it was a it's different, like she was from a small town, but it was an Italian family, and she was one of the few that like left the small town, went three hours away, went to college, stayed out of the small town, like didn't get married right out of school. They all thought she was like gonna be this lost, you know, streetwalker. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_11 41:59

Basically, I mean I work in North Main Street in Ohio.

SPEAKER_10 42:03

And it's like, uh, no, they're you know, it's just it's a very narrow point of view that I can absolutely that would be the misogyny of the Italians. Yes. So anyway, I I enjoyed the movie. I think, like I said, I think it being somewhat on the uh short side helped it. Um because I didn't want to see them like can I didn't want to see how it continued. Like it was his realization that he met this great girl, despite everybody telling him for their own reasons, right? Their own motivations, he was they were encouraging him not to pursue this girl. He realized like she was great and they got along and like he was gonna do and I didn't really need to see anymore. So that's kind of nice ending. Yeah, it was a nice ending. So there you go. Paul Paul has notes.

SPEAKER_08 42:58

Which is very uncommon.

SPEAKER_02 42:59

Well, my notes are my notes are mostly quotes uh from from the mom, uh portrayed by Esther Minciot. I'm still like torn about whether I like the movie because if you if I were to do like things I like and things I don't like, I mean there's so much in the light calm, and I think we can all agree uh with the academy that Ernest Born 9, you know, was phenomenal. I mean, we we saw some of that in From Here to Eternity when he had a small role as the uh I guess the MP, the jailer. Totally different character that killed Frank Sinatra, completely different, evil to sweet. I mean, like he was his acting was just amazing um in a in a way that I really haven't like felt, you know, in some of the other movies we've watched. I mean, even good good performances. I really liked Ernest Fortnite here. Um I liked his friendship with his buddy Angie. I mean, that felt what are you gonna do? What are we doing today?

SPEAKER_08 43:52

What are we doing today? I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 43:53

What do you want to do? What do you want to do? In my research, played it in the T V version.

SPEAKER_08 44:00

Angie did. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_09 44:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 44:02

There you go. Already small on me.

SPEAKER_02 44:06

Not only in the Pine Club, but don't research on the movie.

SPEAKER_08 44:09

There you go.

SPEAKER_02 44:10

So yeah, I like that scene. I mean, there's a scene in the jungle, but the original cartoon version where the vultures are there, like, what do you want to do today? I don't know. What do you want to do today? So I mean it kind of reminded me of that. I just I just like that back and forth. Um as as Kate was saying, like, you know, the mom and the aunt, you know, were awesome. Bless you. The like the quote I have from like um the horns burn born's mother when she he goes she goes to visit her sister, and uh, you know, she her she just starts talking about all the people who died or you know, whatever. And that's yeah, she's like, I like to visit you, Katarina, because you're always such cheerful, you know, news. And then um, and then she breaks the news that you know she wants her to come live with her, which I thought she handled perfectly, you know, even though the daughter-in-law was like, ah, just tell her you're lonely. Like she just came out straight up and said, like, no, you gotta leave, which is probably the right way of doing it. But she still made it sound like she was welcoming and like they're you know, they're sisters, but they're still like you know, they're you know widowed and all that.

SPEAKER_10 45:10

And uh and her well, it's I will say this like my grandma and her sister Mary, they were best friends. Yeah, and I think that was like very relatable. These women are so close. Yeah, and it yeah, that's the relationship. And she could just say like it was.

SPEAKER_02 45:25

And I think that's a good point because the movie was so short that we have to infer that, right? That's completely believable. Yeah, but uh, of course, her sister Katharina is like making a big deal, and she says, Katharina, don't make an opera out of this. That was kind of funny because they're Italian. Um and then later on in the movie, um uh, you know, she she goes to move in with her, and you know, I think it's like everything worked out the way that they had set it down. I like the fact that most of the action takes place like in this one evening. I don't I told Dia earlier, I don't know why I like that.

SPEAKER_08 45:57

Not because of the length of the movie, but I just like the fact that Well, you know, they say like a lot of shows, that's a sign of like how you really should construct a show, is that it should be over a day. Yeah. And like that is the best, like, you know, when they're talking about playwrights, etc. Like the tightest and best shows are the ones that are like one to two days.

SPEAKER_02 46:14

Which is funny when Dan Dan read the uh DVD cover and they talk about the second part of that, that's all crammed in the final 20 minutes about like, oh yeah, so it's like it's kind of it's kind of weird the DVD plays that up, but it's really like barely uh is part of the movie. Um a couple other things I found interesting, um Eric Borgine's character thing I'm buying the butcher's shop, and there's like uh the butcher and his wife, you know, they're hanging up, they're moving to California, which you know I'm I'm extrapolating here, but I mean it's 1954, 55. You know, people are it predates the the uh Brooklyn Dodgers and the Giants moving out of California, yeah. So there's this idea that you know California's a place to be.

SPEAKER_08 46:54

Um also the supermarket discussion. Oh, yeah, I thought that was interesting.

SPEAKER_02 46:59

Yeah, the cut the competition in the supermarket. So it's probably a sign of the times. Uh again, you mentioned um in the backstory that this was originally a TV play, and then you know that we do see TVs in in both houses. Um I'm guessing part of that, but it's also showing that TV is becoming part of the culture. So I mean, not to exaggerate too much here, but you know, we're seeing a kind of a turning point in some things. Um, I'm not positive. I I just I'm not sure I like I'm not sure I like the. What? I don't know. I despite everything I said, I just I don't know. Really? Yeah, I'm not sure. Um that's very Canadian open. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um just sit on the fence and open. I see where the next 40-something weeks are going. I mean, there is a theme of loneliness, right? I mean, you know, it's touched upon by the mom and her sister, you know, not heavily, but I mean, you know, it's a lot of people.

SPEAKER_10 47:56

All the main characters are dealing with loneliness. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. So even the married couple, right? Yeah. They're lonely in their marriage because they are at complete odds. They have the kid, and yeah.

SPEAKER_02 48:08

And I like as I comment in other uh movies that we've watched, I'm still amazed at the fact that it's so late at night, and like that's like normal. You know, they go out to the-night. Yeah, they they go to the ballroom when it's like late, and then it's like they're like, oh, it's it's early, it's only 11 o'clock. Good for them, because you know what?

SPEAKER_10 48:25

It was Saturday night, and I went to bed at like 10 o'clock. Right. So Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 48:31

He takes her, you know, home at 1 a.m. because the bus has only run one one an hour, but I mean there's still activity. And they got up and went to mass the next day. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 48:39

Yeah, they did, but it was 10 o'clock mass.

SPEAKER_08 48:41

And it's 10 and 11 o'clock mass. Yeah, I know, right.

SPEAKER_02 48:43

Every hour, so they can you know you can pick up the case.

SPEAKER_10 48:45

The aunt went to the early one. She went to the eight o'clock. Yeah. But they went to the 10.

SPEAKER_08 48:51

So why wouldn't you like it though? You said all those great things. What is it?

SPEAKER_12 48:54

I don't I don't know. I can't put my finger on it.

SPEAKER_11 48:57

It's uh I don't know. I just Canadians have a hard time expressing their expression.

SPEAKER_02 49:05

I don't know, eh? I don't know. It's like I don't the the scenes in the like the ballroom, I don't know. I mean, it just I can't put my finger on it.

SPEAKER_10 49:16

The dude offering five dollars. Give you a fiver. Yeah, to like take his date with take the dog home. Oh, yeah, so that's a good feeling.

SPEAKER_02 49:26

It was that was yeah, they hit that way more heavy, even like when the four guys were like in the living room.

SPEAKER_10 49:33

I know, yeah. That was the point.

SPEAKER_02 49:35

Um I mean he kept using there's good tomatoes there, and then his. It was funny when his mom tried to like. And he's like, what? That was cute. Who have you been talking to?

unknown 49:45

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 49:46

Anyway, Marty.

SPEAKER_04 49:48

Marty, tell us about Marty. Marty, I enjoyed the movie. I like that it was a tight 90 minutes. So that is a nice thing that they should bring back the movies. Tight 90s are great. Tight 90. I like it. Uh there are other things that this made me think of. There's a lot of parallels that you could draw to modern society, even going back in time. So certain things have always been the case. Uh, like a 34-year-old man who's not married, we would now call those incels. And they would be living with their mother and everything else. That's what we would call it. That's what the internet would call it, that's what everybody would call it. They would fight and stuff like that. The parents are all yelling. The 29-year-old uh woman who's apparently a dog, which I did not see because I thought she was pl plenty attractive. Yeah, she was very attractive, so it was like, well, I get why they were doing it, just to move along the story. And you know, like many friends in male relationships, you don't want your friends to be going and doing stuff without you. Yeah, so I think that was more of it, and most men do neg each other like that, so there's parallels now to modern times. Uh, the interesting thing though is like he's saying, I don't want to go to this dance club place. Stardust. Stardust to the stardust. Uh that would be like nowadays, people saying I don't want to get on internet dating and so on and so forth. It is interesting if you you can make these parallels, and really what that shows me is these problems have always existed. Yes, they ain't going away, they're always gonna be here. They're biblical. So it now looking back from the 50s until now, there's certain things that there's not much you can do to change. Uh, I did think it was interesting that you know they did have a small scene about the war. Uh, he was talking about being a rifleman and having the bar and cross-eyed guy sit sitting next to him. So that's also an interesting thing to draw from. Uh, the old ladies, I thought it was very entertaining that they were both in their 50s. I know. And they were like, these people are told.

SPEAKER_10 52:08

50 is not the same. I think 50 now is not the same.

SPEAKER_12 52:14

Specifically, the aunt Katarina was 50 right now.

SPEAKER_04 52:19

Like, boy. My life is over at 56. That was a little bit. Oh, Brady just retired. 40.

SPEAKER_10 52:28

That's a little bit wild stuff. Don't you have memories though of your grandparents like being so old when you were a kid? And then you get older yourself and you realize, like, oh, my grandma, like, when I was thinking she was ancient, was like 58. That's true. Like, she was like 60.

SPEAKER_04 52:46

And I don't know if that's a modern invention, but people look like they aged more back then than I I agree. That that could be just be, you know, cigarettes and other things like that, living a harder life. Cigarettes not helping. Doing a lot more physical jobs and stuff like that. Because I I I believe both of their husbands had died. So if they were 10 years older than him, they would have been in their 60s. That's not even retirement age. Yeah. You can't even get on to the show.

SPEAKER_03 53:13

They did bump the husbands off pretty young.

SPEAKER_08 53:16

But in 50 years, the life expectancy has dramatically changed from 1955 to 2025, 70 years. It's a much longer life, which is interesting too.

SPEAKER_04 53:26

Uh, and then the last comment I have, besides the modern lens on it, is I like the butcher shop because I gotta see what prices were back then and what prices are now. So one of it was pork tenderloin for 54 cents a pound. Yeah. It's about $4 a pound now. So it's, I mean, it keeps track with inflation. We're doing pretty good on pork.

SPEAKER_10 53:46

I love when we were explaining like the cuts to you, like, you know, that was it was really cool. And it makes me miss the fact that, you know, we're stuck with the supermarkets and butchers like that. I would love to go to a butcher every week to get my need.

SPEAKER_04 54:01

I tell you what, it wouldn't have taken me 30 minutes to check out with the butcher.

SPEAKER_06 54:09

Did you like the movie Marty?

SPEAKER_04 54:10

Yeah, it was very uh I mean it was good. I liked it. It was entertaining. Uh it was a nice little love story. Uh, the daughter's relationship with her parents was kind of weird. One of the comments my father made watching it was, I'm glad none of you came into my bedroom and said this after a date. I was like, we would never do that.

SPEAKER_00 54:32

What did they say after the date?

SPEAKER_04 54:33

Uh the daughter came in and just started blabbering and blabbering and talking, and the parents really didn't say much, and they just were laying in bed. It was weird. For a 29-year-old to do that is a little like, come on.

SPEAKER_11 54:47

After she comes home. Yeah. Not Marty. After she comes home.

SPEAKER_06 54:51

I missed that. Do you remember that scene?

SPEAKER_04 54:53

It was a scene.

SPEAKER_11 54:54

And they're in two separate beds.

SPEAKER_06 54:56

Of course.

SPEAKER_04 54:57

Well, that was because of the movie code, right? Right. That's the movie code.

SPEAKER_01 55:01

I don't, I think that was the only one in the DVD.

SPEAKER_03 55:04

Yeah, I don't remember the scene.

SPEAKER_01 55:05

I don't remember the D.

SPEAKER_04 55:06

Oh, it was in the it was in the DVD.

SPEAKER_01 55:08

Oh, interesting. That's why you did the DVD.

SPEAKER_02 55:10

That's why you did the DVD. There you go. There was a scene with a daughter and her parents watching TV. Yes. No, that's at the end.

SPEAKER_04 55:19

That's when she starts crying because she didn't get a call back. I mean, and that's the other thing, like, you don't call the next day. That's a terrible etiquette. You're supposed to wait.

SPEAKER_08 55:29

That was part of the point. They were like, you know, she was like, he's like, I'm so hard up. Like, right. I thought that was beautiful.

SPEAKER_04 55:37

I don't know. You don't call after what? I know.

SPEAKER_08 55:39

I think that was true in 1955, too.

SPEAKER_02 55:41

He waited a month on the first person he called. That might have been too long.

SPEAKER_04 55:45

Well, you know, she was Oh, yeah, that was funny. The other thing, he kept calling himself fat, and he wasn't fat. So I was like, what is this about?

SPEAKER_10 55:53

He kept calling himself fat and ugly.

SPEAKER_04 55:56

I mean, in modern days, that's a that's a skinny man. You gotta walk around. Unless you're in California and Ohio, that's a skinny guy.

SPEAKER_09 56:06

Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_12 56:09

Butcher, he's eating his own product.

SPEAKER_04 56:10

Yeah, you know, you gotta make sure people know you sell good meat. So you gotta eat it.

SPEAKER_03 56:16

That's right, you don't trust a skinny butcher.

SPEAKER_10 56:18

He was Italian he was the son living at home with his widowed Italian mother. He was eating his feelings a lot. For sure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 56:29

Um, adding on to what Paul and Marty said, there were some very weird parts as somebody who's a s who's like 17.

SPEAKER_09 56:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 56:37

Um I I really liked it that it was short. Um that was that was very enjoyable. All movies should be that way. But the fact that he was he wasn't even that old. I mean, why did everybody why was everybody so on to him to just get married and have shit?

SPEAKER_03 56:52

For that era, he was really old not to be married.

SPEAKER_05 56:56

Okay. Yeah, that was a little difficult for me to understand. And also, like his mom was like everybody else in the family's married. I mean, I don't understand why that how how does that explain the the need for him to be married?

SPEAKER_06 57:09

Procreating. You know, it's like you will never have a son. Not a daughter. Yeah, you will never have a son. She says that. She did.

SPEAKER_05 57:16

She did. Yeah. And like even strangers at the butcher shop who have nothing to do with them are coming up to him and Italian neighborhoods.

SPEAKER_02 57:28

Because the one woman said that she had talked to his mom, right?

SPEAKER_06 57:31

They all lived in these tenements in New York. In the Bronx. They're in the Bronx. They're in the Bronx. And so everybody knows everybody's business. I see. Yeah. It's Italian, it's also Catholic. Very Catholic.

SPEAKER_04 57:44

Very Catholic, like. Because I will tell you, I got questioned of when I was gonna procreate with my wife. My mother. Your mother was very Irish did this too.

SPEAKER_06 57:57

It's not the Italians.

SPEAKER_11 57:59

I never once I asked them.

SPEAKER_06 58:00

Good job. Well, you're you're converts, yeah. German convert.

SPEAKER_04 58:05

Oh, we needed soldiers. Clearly, mom thought the crusaders. We need to put more Catholics in there. Pope needed soldiers. Go ahead, tia, we're sorry.

SPEAKER_05 58:18

You're fine. Well, yeah, so I that all of that was a little weird. Um the sisters had an interesting relationship. The mom and um her sister, they were sort of like opposite in terms of their personalities. One was like more accepting than the other. Um, that was kind of cool. I liked um there was a scene where there were two women at a bar. They were literally talking about like a lady who had too many kids and died.

SPEAKER_06 58:45

That was kind of interesting. It's like, oh yeah, I mean, she died. They said don't have this baby because you'll die. You'll die. Healthy baby, nine pounds. Well, how's she doing? She's dead.

SPEAKER_05 58:56

Yeah. That was funny. So I enjoyed that.

SPEAKER_10 59:01

But also of the time.

SPEAKER_05 59:04

Yeah, it didn't feel relatable to me at all. Um, and the story just like it was very predictable. I think that sort sort of was what would like hold me back from saying that it's a really good movie. It was alright. But it was it was good. Yeah, it was a short one. I enjoyed it. And I'm excited. I saw a little bit of next week's movie, um, and it looks fun. There's like music and dance, and it's in color, um, which I'm very excited about finally.

SPEAKER_00 59:40

Schindler's lists. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 59:41

Oh, right. Way in the future, yeah. Well, you the artists. Okay. But we're kind of in the era now where they're all gonna be in color or color, yeah. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01 59:52

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 59:53

Not just color.

SPEAKER_01 59:54

Technical.

SPEAKER_03 59:54

Technically.

SPEAKER_01 59:55

Okay. Okay. Cool. Yeah. Sammy.

SPEAKER_03 59:59

Okay. Yeah, well, I I thought it was kind of uh impressive that in 1955 they made a movie about mental health and loneliness.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:08

Yeah. I I didn't expect it won these awards.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:11

And it won, and it was a commercial and critical success. I don't think they had a lot of faith in it when they made it, but it it turned out.

SPEAKER_10 1:00:20

A small budget, and you know, actors who, you know, maybe weren't they weren't matinee idols, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:28

Yeah, so I did read that the Betsy Blair was not supposed to get that role. She had been blacklisted, but she was married. But she's married to Gene Kelly, and he threatened not to do any more movies with the studio if she didn't get that role.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:50

So that's that's addicted Debbie Reynolds, but he did great things otherwise. Right? That's right.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:57

They later divorced, but they were married. But but they were married like 15 years or something.

SPEAKER_12 1:01:02

Yeah, there he is.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:03

Yeah, he was standing up for. Um, yeah, I had trouble buying her as a as a dog.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:10

Yeah. Yeah. Totally not a dog.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:12

Yeah. I could buy Ernest Borden as not good looking, but yeah. I mean, they tried. They tried, like they cut her hair and kind of dressed. They made her very primitive. They made her very school marmish. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:28

That's true. Bert Lancaster's in this movie?

SPEAKER_10 1:01:30

No, he's not. That's why I was like, Oh, I know, like, what? No, there's no Bert Lancaster. They're all like.

SPEAKER_11 1:01:35

Yes, there is.

SPEAKER_10 1:01:36

There's like normal people.

SPEAKER_11 1:01:38

The blood. You bought and watched it on the DVD. I did not. Bert Lancaster produced.

SPEAKER_10 1:01:48

Oh yeah. He's a producer, yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:01:51

And on the trailer that was shown in the theaters, Bert Lancaster comes out and says, I'm not in this movie, but you've got to see it.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:00

Yeah. Because they had to have his chest. So Bert kind of interesting.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:08

Yeah, well, but I stand said they didn't think the movie was going to do very well. Um started winning, you know, all these accolades, and they're like, oh, well, maybe we have a hit here.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:19

According to my research, the television show was so successful that they quickly made this one. It had such high ratings for television at the time that they quickly turned it into a movie. That's according to my research. And it was on the internet, so who knows if it's true or not? But I don't think the I don't think the Russian bots really care about a movie from the 50s called Murder. So it's probably more accurate. Anybody?

SPEAKER_10 1:02:50

PBR? Another ice cold PBR.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:52

PBR. Do we have any salt?

SPEAKER_11 1:02:55

Yeah. And uh we're having PBR because that was the bar the beer that was featured at the bar. Yeah, that's a line. And then they had one on the inside ribbon, which is what I drank when I was in high school. Oh, perfect. Three-two beer.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:10

Yeah. And I also read that Jerry Orbach, his first film appearance, is he he's in the he's in the ballroom. Oh wow. Yeah, that's amazing. But you don't, you know, he doesn't have a name or anything. Yeah, yeah. You just I guess he's on camera. Give one to Sam and I'll split it with Sam.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:28

Yeah, I'm done I we'll have a couple more time. I mean what I did like about the ballroom, it did seem like a lot of folks there were of similar age. I mean, it wasn't like all these it wasn't like 20 you know year olds going there. Um so clearly it wasn't just you know the main characters trying to, you know, meet up with people.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:46

Yeah. And I just I thought the main character's real problem was confidence. Really, like he he's so he's so underconfident that he questions whether he should even go out with her again. Like he lets his his friends and his mother beat him down. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:05

Sam never had these problems.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:07

Now I will say that most of my experience with my friends who've had problems with ladies, it's always comes down to confidence. Yeah, it's like 90% of it is confidence. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:04:17

Sam showed his confidence on the parking lot of roosters on North Michigan. You got that right.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:22

Sam, Sam, Sam went for the older woman. Sam put the water.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:27

That's right, she was uh 25. Way past her past her childbearing years.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:35

So when my parents got married, my mom was 22, and my my my my parents were working for the US government. Be careful with that, Marty. And uh and they my parents met and married in Pakistan and on the in the Catholic Church there when they filled out the marriage certificate. It's I I forget the term, but it's like status or whatever. My dad says bachelor, my mom says spinster, she's 22. And so crazy. I noticed that recently because of the Canadian citizenship thing. I texted my mom and I said, Wow, you're listed as a spinster. And my mom, who doesn't swear or anything, and this is not swearing, but it's about as close as she comes, she goes, Yeah, I was pretty pissed off about that. I was like, Whoa. Those are heavy words for my mom. 22, she's lazy spinster.

SPEAKER_12 1:05:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:20

Well, good movie. I enjoyed it. Not top five, but not bad.

unknown 1:05:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:05:26

Nan Waley.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:27

Um I liked I liked this movie and its honesty around loneliness. Um I thought the conversations they had about how they wanted to kill themselves, I thought was pretty brave and hard.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:38

I didn't expect that in 1955.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:40

And you know, of course they had to say it was a sin, even thinking about it, because you know the Catholics. But I thought that was like really honest. And you know, I think the the other the other thing I came away in the movie that uh Marty, I really like your framing about thinking about it now and and like how 70 years later dating, there's still like these constructs. Of dating and heterosexual relationships that's the same. Um, I thought um, you know, you're in this big city, you're surrounded by your family. That construct is so such a pressure on these, these, these, this couple, these two individuals, that they don't and they fit into the construct fine, but they don't quite perfectly fit in, and it nearly makes them like with dehabiliting dehabilitating depression, right? Of loneliness and suicidal thoughts. And I just think that's like a really powerful thought about like how the confines of society can do that to people, right? And like then I, you know, you so then to Marty's point, like you know, we're 70 years later, like you hope that because society has gotten wider, that there are other options that that there's less of that. There's not, there's still people that feel that way, but they can be awakened to like you don't have to live that way, right? They're happy because they find a way to live that way, right? They find two people, they like each other all right. Like it wasn't like you know, you call it a love story. They were just excited that there was somebody that was gonna talk to them.

SPEAKER_10 1:07:14

I mean, it was excited about a second date.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:18

A second date. Yeah, and so and so that like I just felt like um I thought that I I really enjoyed the movie in that that like bravery of thinking about loneliness and talking about loneliness, and you know, kind it didn't it didn't go so far as to question it, but I thought that that was I thought that was really honest and brave. I thought that Ernest Borgnine was excellent, just just just excellent in this movie. And yes, he is a dog, like he is not an attractive man. Um I think they had to say that she was a dog over and over again for us to like understand that she was supposed to not be attractive. I think that's my opposite, right?

SPEAKER_10 1:07:58

Right, and so yeah, she was the female version of the city.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:01

Yeah, but she was she was a little too pretty for the position, I agree.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:04

And uh not many actor actresses around. No, there's not there's not good looking.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:10

Yeah, so I thought that's why I think they had to do that. But um that was I thought that's what I thought was like pretty brave about this movie. I I really I like to stand's point. I liked I liked them thinking about that, and they didn't make it so dark that it wasn't watchable, right? Like, I think if we would do this movie today, like one of them would kill themselves and then it'd be really sad. So I thought that was there was still like hope in this, but they still had to fit into the social construct of being an Italian Catholic. And you know, the whole thing, well, is she Italian, well, she's Catholic. No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_09 1:08:43

It's really not.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:45

The other scene we haven't talked about, because we talked about this movie wish towards, so we talked about every scene just about, but the one scene where the sisters are talking about, you know, he's gonna make you want to move move out of this house, you know. The next thing you know, he's gonna move out of this house. Oh, it's a solace place now. Yeah, and then he comes right in and they just say nothing. I was like, I thought that was hilarious.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:10

Yeah, I don't know. The wise one. Does seen that they they m they threw in there, I mean they really compacted a lot. Where um uh what's her geez, I can't remember what her name is, but uh uh she talks about having this other job and like you know, it implies that that might mean she has to move out of the area, and they don't dwell on it. You could see like in a longer movie or whatever, like that would come up more. But it but it's a real like you know, to Marty's point about like you know, current days, it's a it's a real life issue. If somebody's gonna like move away, then then what happens? Yeah, secondary.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:43

Well, yeah, and also can I I'm back on the loneliness piece too. So these two, uh Clara, and what's his name? Uh Marty. Marty. Oh yeah, God. Yeah, Marty Claire. Marty. Um I mean, looking at his his uh his cousin, and like that's that life seems terrible.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:16

I understand that so much. Okay. Oh my goodness!

SPEAKER_10 1:10:26

I think that was so skillfully done to like have all this in such a tight um 88 90 minutes. The portrayal of the cousin and his wife. Yeah, it's like it is so important, I think, for the story. Because it it's one of it's the another example of like, because the guy's telling him, Marty, you don't want this. Like, what do you you know, you don't want to do this? I agree with him watching that. He was just saying that pressure, it's like there's pressure to couple up there, and then there's this pressure to procreate, yeah. But then there's this pressure to like from his friends and from his cousin to be like, you know, play the field. You don't want this. Go like, you know, the guy that tries to pull him away from the date. Um Angie, you know, uh, no, that wasn't Angie, that was his other set him up with the third nurse that, you know, is gonna put out money in the bank, you know, she's gonna hook up with him, and like he, you know, he's fighting these opposing forces the whole movie, right? And he's stuck in the middle. And like, to your point, Ann, about like things have moved on to some extent, but some of this is the same. This world is built for couples, yeah. Like as a single woman, it is really hard sometimes because this world is definitely catering to couples.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:54

Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_10 1:11:55

And it's yeah, so it's like to long for that. I can totally relate.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:12:03

So yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:03

I mean, he even talked about that at the end. He was like, I got a date to New Year's Eve. What do you got there, buddy?

SPEAKER_10 1:12:09

Exactly. I love I love that moment when he just is like, oh my god, you people are, you know, goofy. You dumb idiots.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:19

Like, yeah, it is a nice story.

SPEAKER_10 1:12:21

Like, this is a good thing I've got.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:12:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:24

Well said.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:25

Yeah, the scene with Ralph was pretty good because they set um Marty's character up enough that you knew he wasn't gonna say yes. Like you knew he was gonna say, but it's still an important scene just to, you know, show the contrast between what he really wants and then this like you know, one nice thing.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:39

Yeah, no, that's true. I liked it. I think this has been like the biggest conversation we've had in a movie, you know.

SPEAKER_10 1:12:45

Yeah, there's a lot to talk about here. And Dan hasn't even like said he loved it.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:50

Yeah, he hasn't even said he loved it yet.

SPEAKER_10 1:12:52

Well, he's been very silent.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:55

Well, it's always it's always one against six, so now Diane, tell us why you didn't like it.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:04

And you know it's funny. He's gonna actually say, I hate it this way.

SPEAKER_11 1:13:08

I think it was worse than Hamlet.

SPEAKER_10 1:13:11

No, I know you don't believe that.

SPEAKER_11 1:13:15

Okay, well, I watched it with my son Marty uh on Thursday night, and Marty, I took notes as I was watching this, and Marty uh commented that in the movie there's a Frank, a Virginia, and a Marty.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:31

We almost had all six of us in there. There wasn't a Dan, an Edmund, or a Lillian.

SPEAKER_11 1:13:36

Yeah, but there was a Frank, a Virginia, and a Marty.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:39

And those names came up in the like first three minutes.

SPEAKER_10 1:13:42

Yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_11 1:13:44

Uh another thing, you somebody mentioned Jerry Orbach, one of the other guys, he wasn't listed.

SPEAKER_10 1:13:51

Oh, it was Jerry Paris.

SPEAKER_11 1:13:52

Uh he was uh the sergeant Gomer Pyle uh United States Marine Corps, the guy that says it's money in the bank. Oh, that guy. He's the sergeant in Gomer Pyle USMC, uh, which was a you know a comedy TV show when I was on. Okay. Uh some of the things that I wrote down uh was uh uh he had a job at 40 cents an hour because he had three uh and he didn't couldn't use G.I. Bill because he had three unmarried sisters in the house.

SPEAKER_10 1:14:29

He had to provide.

SPEAKER_11 1:14:30

That he had to provide for. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think that's interesting because I have a lot of Greek friends and uh in the Greek culture it's the same thing. The oldest son couldn't get married until all the sisters were married. So I have some really good Greek friends who they never got married because one of their sisters never got married. So I thought that was alright.

SPEAKER_10 1:14:59

So my my grandma was one of nine, and there were four girls, and I my uncle Mike was the oldest, and I wonder if he got married afterward. I like I wonder what order because he would he would have probably gotten married before at least two of the sisters, but I don't know if he got married after.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:20

I wonder if it's because his dad died in this movie. Yeah, yeah. Because his dad died in 36.

SPEAKER_10 1:15:25

It's the dad dying.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:26

And then he had to go, and then he went to the war, and then he had to come back and provide for the little.

SPEAKER_11 1:15:32

The father was dead, yeah. But he could not marry until all the sisters got married. Uh and you know, uh, Bill and Rita, they had five girls, but they were hot Irish Catholics.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:45

Not the high shelf.

SPEAKER_11 1:15:50

Even though Billy Joel said Catholic girls start much too late. Come out, Virginia, come out. Catholic girls start much too late. Okay. Uh and then uh Oh, and she does teach chemistry at uh Benjamin Franklin High School. I saw that, yeah. So that could have been you, man. Well, there hadn't been that fateful night in Rooster's parking.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:14

I know, thank God for that.

SPEAKER_11 1:16:15

Oh, that's what it was. Oh, and then they also had pie. So I do have a bunch of pie in the refrigerator for dessert.

SPEAKER_09 1:16:22

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:16:23

Uh I did write down the college girls are one step from the street, which they said three or four times during the card.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:30

Oh, yeah, I was planning to say that, but it was brought up.

SPEAKER_11 1:16:34

Oh, and they do drink coke. Mm-hmm. Oh, absent coke. Uh and then I thought the other thing, after mass, when he was with the losers, I called it the losers one. The one that was talking about Mickey Spillane. Oh no, he sure knows how to write. He smacks some names around. Yeah, ridiculous. Mickey Spillane, Mickey Spillane. But you know, he was a big writer back then. So that was very topical. I mean, you know, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:17:02

Um the artist making it.

SPEAKER_11 1:17:04

And they were and they wanted to go down to 72nd Street. That was where it was all gonna start. But they lived on 187th Street. Uh there you go.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:15

So was there a director's card or something in the DVD?

SPEAKER_11 1:17:19

Uh this DVD just had the trailer where I found out about Bert Lancaster. Yeah, they didn't, I so I didn't watch it twice. Uh but I really liked it. I thought it was a very sweet movie. Uh one of my friends, who's a faithful listener, uh texted me that uh uh she would have liked to known the end of the story. So I wrote the end of the story, but I won't tell you guys because I don't want to ruin it. It's murder.

SPEAKER_09 1:17:53

Marty Cartu.

SPEAKER_10 1:17:58

Marty.

SPEAKER_11 1:18:02

So, anyhow, I did I did I did text the person back with how the story is.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:07

But you're not gonna share it with us.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:08

Oh, I will if you want me to. Yeah, I do. Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:18:11

Okay. They get married, he buys the butcher shop, they have four kids, two sons, two daughters, they have eight grandchildren, and three great-grandchildren. They're married for 52 years. That's great.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:39

I love it.

SPEAKER_11 1:18:40

I know, that's great. And then they die within two days of each other. So they have a joint funeral, and now they're on their uh trip through eternity.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:50

That's a beautiful murder?

SPEAKER_11 1:18:53

Where's the action? Where's the sun pieces? They didn't go to the point place. That is beautiful. So that's how that's how I ended uh the story.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:00

And he organized all the other independent uh grocers and all that to have his butcher shop be connected on.

SPEAKER_11 1:19:09

Yeah, there you go. Well, that's how I ended it. I like it.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:13

Oh, I think that's right. That's good.

SPEAKER_11 1:19:15

Okay. So, anyhow, I like the movie. Uh this was only the second time I've ever watched it. I did see it before because I knew that line. What do you want to do, Mario? I don't know. What do you want to do?

SPEAKER_08 1:19:27

I don't know.

SPEAKER_10 1:19:28

And that scene where he hits the bus stop sign is everything. That's yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:19:33

And you know, when from pure eternity, where he was an absolute evil sadity person to this, where he was up against some heavy duty actors for best for best actor, to Mikael's Navy. I mean, he was McHale on McHale's Navy. He's got some range. Yeah, he definitely got some range. I thought it was a uh I thought it was a very good movie. Yeah. Uh so anyhow, uh, final thoughts, uh, Nan.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:04

I'm I'm ex are we are we ending the show?

SPEAKER_11 1:20:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:07

Oh well, I'm excited for next week. Now keep in mind, next week is Friday.

unknown 1:20:11

Right.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:11

We're gonna sh we're gonna go on Friday, and we have a special guest cook on Friday, and that is Dia is going to be cooking Indian food. And she has special, she has a whole lit uh litany of special guests that are coming, right, Dea? Uh-huh. So um you can share, you can share uh pass the mic to her, Marty.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:35

It's Jason and Ann Charles.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:37

Oh, did you invite Mr. and Mrs. Roger? They can't make it?

SPEAKER_01 1:20:40

No, they cannot. They're on a beach somewhere.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:42

Oh, that's nice. Okay, so Jason and Ann Charles will be joining us Friday night.

SPEAKER_11 1:20:45

I got Dea an uh Indian cookbook. Yeah, he did. Oh, nice. I got an Indian cookbook to give her some ideas.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:53

So that's exciting. And we're gonna see around the world in 80 days. That's why Dea will be cooking. But we have you need ideas?

SPEAKER_05 1:21:02

But I I appreciate the task.

SPEAKER_10 1:21:06

You have lots of kitchens and lots of people. We can shop. Yeah, Juneteenth, it's a holiday.

SPEAKER_08 1:21:12

Friday's a holiday anyway. So we got an old day. Okay.

SPEAKER_11 1:21:15

And if it goes wrong, just call Eddie and we can door dash from an attack uh from an Indian restaurant. All right.

SPEAKER_08 1:21:23

So I'm excited about that. So we're having an early showing, um, and we'll discuss when we post it, if we post it on Saturday or Monday, but we can discuss that. But we'll be eating on Juneteenth uh around the World Navy Day. So everybody watch the show, get a little shorter period of time here. Um 88 minutes. Um no, thank you.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:45

I wouldn't want me to do it.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:48

And we got a project.

SPEAKER_08 1:21:51

Um and so yeah, so I'm excited. I mean, I just put together that I only have to work four days this week, so that's really exciting. Uh and um um, yeah, I think those are my final thoughts for the week. So this was a nice conversation. I have to say, this conversation was one of the best I think we've had across the table. That's good.

SPEAKER_10 1:22:09

You know. I like Dan, forgive me. I like that it was a little more organic.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:14

Yes, I like the organicness of it. I liked it. Marty, you helped with that nicely, so Marty always woke up with us. I think it helped. Because you are like very like focused on the rounds.

SPEAKER_10 1:22:23

On like this person starts and then the next person, and then the next person.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:27

And then you never you never tell us what you think until the very end.

SPEAKER_12 1:22:30

Now we're getting enough.

SPEAKER_10 1:22:32

I'm not, you know, sorry.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:35

But I did like dare I find you in contemptuous.

SPEAKER_11 1:22:38

Oh, you need to do so.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:41

I like I liked this. This conversation was a really hardy conversation for an 88 minutes. Maybe the dragon rolls.

SPEAKER_10 1:22:47

I don't know. I never make notes. And so I know. See, sometimes I need a break. I'm starting. Like I like to click it over. Organize my thoughts as the conversation's going. It's it's nice to it's nice to be.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:02

Yeah, I think it's gonna go to the retired judge's thing and saying everything is going quite like where you just let us know.

SPEAKER_10 1:23:07

Let us know.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:08

See what you you just really need a wild card to come in, like video wild card.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:12

You're welcome anytime, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:13

Anytime it shakes up this whole uh format.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:16

Anytime, Martin. Isn't he, Dan? Isn't he welcome anytime? Yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:19

I will be back for Lord of the Rings.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:24

Lord of the Rings. It'll be more than I know for sure. That one. Sammy, do you have any closing?

SPEAKER_03 1:23:31

Uh great fucking conversation.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:33

That's um do you?

SPEAKER_01 1:23:37

No.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:38

Marty? Uh I'm glad I was not named after this, Marty. That's very nice for me.

SPEAKER_12 1:23:45

Otherwise, you would have been a butcher.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:47

I would have been a butcher. I like cutting meat. I've been cooking meat. It was nice. He was cutting that, and I was like, that looks like a great profession. A butcher.

SPEAKER_08 1:23:59

Polly, huh?

SPEAKER_04 1:24:01

Uh, nothing to add.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:03

Nope. I'm good.

SPEAKER_11 1:24:05

Okay. Well, uh, I did forget uh back on the May 31st uh broadcast to uh give a shout out to the next day, June 1st, which was Marilyn Monroe's 100. So this whole month on uh Turner Classic Movie, the official uh classic movie network of Dinner with Dan. Dinner with Dan. Uh every Monday night they have Marilyn Monroe movies. Oh, really? Uh, which I've been watching. And it's interesting because it's the birthday song with JFK in there.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:46

Happy birthday, Mr. President.

SPEAKER_11 1:24:50

That dress sold for five million dollars. Oh, wow. And it was absolutely magio destroyed it. That Kim Kardashian put it on and changed the bottle up uh at the Met Gala.

SPEAKER_10 1:25:05

Yeah. That was just outrageous that they let that happen. Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:25:10

Uh but anyhow, uh in the in the movie Sun Like It Hot, which is a great movie. She is from Sandusky, Ohio.

SPEAKER_10 1:25:20

That's right.

SPEAKER_11 1:25:21

And Gentlemen Prefer Blonde, she's going to marry a guy whose dad lives in Dayton, Ohio. And in Girls of the Chorus, Girls of the Girls of Girls of the Chorus, she is, she goes to Cleveland to marry a guy in Cleveland. So in three Maryland Monroe movies, somebody that was around her had a thing for Ohio. And Dayton Ohio gets a shout-out in uh Gentlemen Prefer Blonde.

SPEAKER_10 1:25:54

Which is a very funny movie.

SPEAKER_11 1:25:56

Which is a great movie, yeah. That's good.

SPEAKER_10 1:25:58

Nice.

SPEAKER_11 1:25:59

So uh tomorrow on uh the uh Turner Classic movies, there's gonna be three more Marilyn Monroe movies.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:06

So that's what you're watching when you're not watching these movies and not Naked and Afraid?

SPEAKER_11 1:26:10

Uh I've been watching Naked and Afraid, the global showdown between three teams from America and Texas, which I don't count as America, Mexico, and Brazil.

SPEAKER_10 1:26:25

And wow, let those looney tunes secede.

SPEAKER_11 1:26:30

It's it's uh it's legends. These guys are all legends. And it's really, really good. And I am concerned now with Skydance uh taking over uh uh Paramount, or I mean taking over CNN, HBO, and Discovery. If they do away with Naked and Afraid and John Oliver House of the Dragon, I'm gonna have some problems.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:57

Well, Danny, I am.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:59

Did you can't turn cancel your cable? Or is that like your foot phone? He's not gonna have that big of a problem with it.

SPEAKER_12 1:27:10

The streaming can't make up for me.

SPEAKER_08 1:27:11

Danny, I am binge watching right now this show called Off Campus, which is a bunch of 20-sub things again, but they have a lot of summarized term pretty. Yeah, somebody said told me, like, hey, you know your obsession with summer turn pretty, check out off campus. But off campus is a highly, they have a lot more sex than off campus. Even Sam will watch some of it because there's a lot of um T Women with no shirts on. Yeah, TNA. Oh, I didn't hear what you said. Yeah, okay, yeah. So that is what I've been binge watching. There's eight episodes, it's on Amazon Prime. There's a hockey player, he's straight, unlike heated rivalry. And um that's what I've been binge.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:56

Okay, I just wanted to share that.

SPEAKER_11 1:27:58

Okay, yeah. Um so any other advice? Um I've got uh Around the World in Eighty Days. You know, they used to sell souvenir books. And somewhere in this house I have the book that she bought for Around the World in Eighty Days, and I also got the book she bought for Ben Hear. You know, they have picture books. It's somewhere in this house. It's somewhere in this house.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:35

Oh, so I want to suggest a new drinking game for the members of the Dinner with Dan broadcast.

SPEAKER_10 1:28:42

Nice, I like it.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:42

Anytime Dan mentions something that he has in this house but cannot find, we have to drink. And we will be falling down drunk at the end of every broadcast.

SPEAKER_10 1:28:54

Cheers.

SPEAKER_11 1:28:58

Time for me to start a uh a tally.

SPEAKER_12 1:29:15

37 weeks, and then we come over drinking hills like five.

SPEAKER_10 1:29:23

That was a great one.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:25

Oh man.

SPEAKER_10 1:29:28

And we were all anxious to get that. This was great.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:31

When Dan mentioned he's so much older than us and has that. Oh, yeah, that's a 73 year old.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:36

Oh, that's another drinking. That's another part of it, yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:29:40

Uh okay, so what are we gonna drink, Sam? What?

SPEAKER_10 1:29:45

Whatever's in front of you.

SPEAKER_11 1:29:46

Whatever, whatever, whatever's in front of us. You guys don't cracked over. Whatever's in front of us.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:54

Never cracked over in here. If that's what's he in front of us, that's what it'll be. Okay.

SPEAKER_11 1:30:00

Uh so anyhow, before this gets any deeper depth, uh I've got pie in the refrigerator, a bunch of difference. And uh, we're looking forward to short week Friday. I can't wait for this great meal that Dea's gonna cook for us. It's gonna be absolutely awesome. And uh, so uh Godspeed and farewells until we meet again.