On the Waterfront has Class

On this beautiful May evening, the gang welcomes special guests Tom and Kate Archdeacon to discuss 1954 best picture On the Waterfront. There wasn't much disagreement this week on how great this movie performed. Brando's performance was spectacular as were many other actor's efforts in this worthy film. A summer meal of hot dogs and cheeseburgers was yummy but the company made the evening delightful. Grab a seat and join for a listen.

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Transcript

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Sound good and we're on.

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We're on, you sure?

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I'm sure.

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Okay. Okay, I would like to uh welcome all our listeners around the country to this, the I believe, 36th episode of Dinner with Dan. I am Dan Garrett, your podcast podcast host. We are recording on Sunday, May 31st, 2026, from Roe Avenue in Dayton's historic Five Oaks neighborhood. It's a beautiful sunny day, which we deserve after setting the record for the wettest May in Dayton's history. Yep. Wasn't it really? Yep. Yes. Yep. Tonight at the table, we have table regulars, Nan Whaley, Sam Braun, Dea, Paul Duncan Robinson, Kate Evans, and maybe my son Eddie will show up. I'm not sure if he's uh tending to the garlic garden at his place or downstairs. So hopefully Eddie will show up. But drum roll, somebody can do a drum roll. Very, very special guests tonight. I rate them as in the top probably five, maybe the top three of most interesting couples in the Miami Valley. Oh my. Yeah.

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Wow. That's up there.

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That would be a good one.

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I want to know who the other two are. Yeah, I know. Who's the other? Who's one in two?

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No, I said in the top five, they could be number one.

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Well, who the other four? I want to know. Oh, you're interesting minds.

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Maybe, you know, some other time when I might tell you that. But anyhow. That's a lot of people. If if you want to have an engaging good time, try to get the archdeacons to come to your party or to your dinner. That's uh there's never a dull moment. Uh it's great to have Kate and Tom Archdeacon here tonight. And for the loyal listeners who have been with us since the very beginning, uh, you might remember that Kate and Tom were on dinner with Dan on our one of our very first uh episodes when we did the uh block party episode on Labor Day weekend of 2025. So it's great to have Kate and Tom back.

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Yay, yay, yay!

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Welcome back.

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Woohoo! Thank you.

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As a little background character uh uh information, Kate retired from a very successful career in auto sales, uh and she currently volunteers at the Montgomery County Democratic Party headquarters.

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Here, here, here, here.

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She is also a true daughter of Dayton. She knows just about everybody and also knows their secrets and where the bodies are buried.

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Yeah.

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She's the one you want to call up when you say, okay, are you willing to wake up in the jail cell next to me and say, wow, what a ride. You would call Kate Archdeacon. Now, fortunately, it took Kate to Tom to tame Tom. Uh the reason why many people still get the Dayton Daily News is to read his human interest stories that appear in the sports section. He is truly the biographer of the Miami Valley. He's uh got a star out on uh the Dayton Walk of Fame, well-deserved star. And he has won more local, state, and national awards for journalism than I'm gonna date myself, then Carter has little liver pills. All right. All right, so only the people over 50, 65 got that. Okay. Uh and he is especially known for his coverage of the sweet sport of boxing. So he is the perfect guest reviewer for what everyone thinks is a boxing movie, but it isn't really uh on the waterfront. But before we get to the movie, what's for dinner?

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Well, tonight um Sam did the heavy lifting by um having some hot dogs and hamburgers. There was much discussion about other things, but it's a nice May day.

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It's beautiful.

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Um time for a cookout. Time for a cookout, grilled out, and then um fruit salad, potato salad from Dorothy Lane Market. Um the archdeacons brought killer brownies, which is what Dea is like just trying to get her way through so she can eat. She is so excited. Yes, we put it right in front of her, but that like have not seen her so excited in a week.

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A Sam ketchup. Or mustard, mustard, mustard.

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Um and um uh some pasta salad too. So, but Kate brought the the goods, so Kate.

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Oh, I brought a like it's like an Asian law. No nuts, no peanuts, no nuts of any kind. I normally put peanuts.

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Exactly.

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Exactly. Exactly.

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It's like the thin man in my favorite, one of my favorite old movies that did not win a best picture. Why don't you serve the the uh nuts? You know, and it's like a dish of nuts, but like the house is full of guests. Guests are nuts. She goes, why don't you serve the guests the nuts?

SPEAKER_03 5:40

Nice. So that's what we have, Danny, tonight. Okay, and some wine. Thank you.

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Kate brought the wine.

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Both Kates brought wine.

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What we do is now, while we eat, we go around the table, and I usually start on this side, and say what we've done this past week. You can go on forever or you can make it brief.

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I'll be brief.

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Okay, that's fine.

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But the only thing I did other than the Dem headquarters and the Westcott House was we went to the Dayton Gay Men's Choir concert last evening. It was, it was very nice. It was at the Roger Glass Center.

SPEAKER_03 6:19

Oh, was it? I've not gotten to go there.

SPEAKER_02 6:21

Oh my god, it's fabulous. But they did a good show. Uh kudos to Kathy Clark, who is their leader. She's really brought them up a lot. So that's it.

SPEAKER_03 6:34

When was the last time?

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They did um some kind of a Halloween thing. It was uh rather odd, but thriller. Um else did they do, honey?

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Um something from Rocky Horror Picture Show. Oh, Time Warp, you know, and a bunch of other stuff.

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Yeah, it was good. They're very short, they're usually an hour. Nice.

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How often do they do shows?

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Well, it used to be just at Christmas, but now they've started doing one three years, I think. Yeah, two or three.

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Nice, and it's cheap.

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And like-minded people, yeah, he has absolutely a good crowd. You know what's interesting is we were there one well for the Christmas concert one year, and Tom's from Audeville. Don't you be cracking on Northwest Ohio? But eight, nine hundred people, and here this guy comes up to Tom and and says, Tom, he grew up with him younger, but it was like he wanted to say, Do your parents know you're here?

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Nanette?

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Um had a mouthful of food. Uh I had a good week, uh, but this weekend on Friday, I left to go to Louville and spent the weekend at a girl, uh, two other girlfriends, and we went on the bourbon trail Saturday. Oh boy. Sam helped set up the bourbon trail. We used Mint Julep tours, and we went to, I'd been on the bourbon trail for about 15 years. So I went to Maker's Mark, Yellowstone, Willet, and Jim Beam. Sam liked this because I bought bourbon at nearly every stop.

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So he has a great stand. I did do that.

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And then did you dip one at Maker's Mart into the wax?

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Liz did. I did it, but she did. So we I have pictures of Liz doing it, my friend. And then um, we had great food too. We ate dinner one night in Laval at this place called Porch. And then Saturday night, there's this Cuban restaurant there that is it's like you know, we walked from downtown, really good, really fun, great locate, like great place. So did that and then came back today, stopped by a graduation party in Cincinnati and came back home. That's my big excursion of the week, I'd say. I know, right? But made it back in time for the podcast, Danny. So you're a trooper.

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There you go. Damn.

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Uh played tennis for the first time this year at Nichols, um, clay courts. So they got outside. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 9:30

They haven't turned that into pickleball yet.

SPEAKER_09 9:33

These are the clay courts. Oh, okay. No, the hard courts, they they have um portable nets that some nights they kind of take over a couple of those. Oh, okay.

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How do you feel about that?

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That's that's fine.

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Oh, you're okay with it?

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Well, we can share the court. The tennis players can share the court with the pickleball players.

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I know you're gonna judge them.

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Yeah.

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Um, so it's good to be out on the uh these are City of Dayton clay courts, and they're really nice. Uh, and then Saturday. Did you win? Yes. I did win. And then Saturday, Dee and I went to see the Devil Wears Prada 2. It was not best picture material, but it was entertaining.

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It was fun.

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That's all I got.

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Um, it was my first week off from school, so I woke up late every day. It was awesome. What was the latest you slept down?

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That's not 11 30. That's not true.

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Oh, I go to bed at the same time. Nice.

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Um but yeah, and I watched like three movies. I watched a horror movie called The Passenger with a friend, and it was uh just a lot of crunchy bones and things. Very enjoyable. Um that I watched on I watched it on the waterfront and I watched The Developer's product too, and I liked it. Not as good as the first one, but pretty good. Very entertaining.

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Hard to live up to the first one.

SPEAKER_10 11:25

And yeah, I've been just like gathering things, throwing things away, and getting ready to move. I'm going back to the Iron Thrones watching.

SPEAKER_05 11:36

You're throwing her out.

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She gets to choose. She's had enough of Sam and I. She's like, enough. Bad people are so boring.

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Going back to the experience.

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She can't, she can't take, she can't, she loves the excitement of the Hilliard Watts experience. Down, she the first day do you want to use playing like used to stay?

SPEAKER_10 11:58

Um I used to stay like down the street um with a different family, and they have five kids and like lots of animals, and it's just like it's it's a lot. Um yeah, I stayed there for five months. Moved to that exam's house for five months.

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A dog.

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With a dog, yeah, one dog, and zero children.

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And Louie. I know that our dog's name.

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That's funny.

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Um she's moving, she's moving out. Wow.

SPEAKER_10 12:30

Yeah, change is hard, it has always been hard. That's why I like went on exchange in the first place. So it gets I think it gets slightly easier with dying, but it's still a little makes me a little anxious. Just backing things away again. So yeah.

SPEAKER_05 12:47

It's the uh house that uh Rob and Chad Lowe lived on or lived in for uh two or three years. That's my cake.

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That's it's not a cusp but it ought to give something.

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Well, uh, you know, Dea, I'm halfway between the two houses. So feel free to stop anytime.

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Okay. She'll still be on the phone. Yeah, yeah. That's right. You have to keep visiting the other end of the street. That's right. There's empty vibe rooms up there.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_06 13:27

Uh Polly. Duncan. I was in Maine for just a quick visit, three days. Uh, Mia, my daughter, was up there um with my parents for about 12 days. That's her annual summer trip. Although this year we didn't take uh Amtrak up there because there wasn't enough time, so I flew up there. And I have to say, this is not a complaint, but it was very eerie because all four flights were on time, if not early. Wow. And it is just yeah, I mean, it's almost disconcerting when things go perfect because that just never seems to happen.

SPEAKER_03 13:58

Yeah, I mean Sam Bron was not on your flight.

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Well, you know, me and I had a history of having uh travel challenges or returning, I think every other year, and I turned to her and I said, Is this year we're supposed to have travel challenges? And she was definitely afraid of that happening because today is her 21st birthday. Happy birthday. Yeah, she's in Columbus. She's in Columbus, wanted to spend it with friends instead of parents, which is understandable. Um, but anyway, mom and dad were fine. Uh no lobster roll dam, but it had a shore dinner, so I still had lobster, you know. I just had to work for it, you know, crack it open and all that. Um, at a place called Robinson's Wharf, which my dad likes to go because he gets to recycle the joke about, you know, do we get a discount if our last name is Robinson? And you know, the waiter has to pretend, you know, it's funny. Um it is funny.

SPEAKER_09 14:45

Yeah, do you need some attorneys to retain up in Kelona at the time? I know.

SPEAKER_06 14:51

No, it sounds like it's gonna be tame because like her roommates have to work tomorrow. Um Mia's Mia doesn't start her job until Tuesday, but it's down here, so tomorrow I'll just be driving, probably slowly.

SPEAKER_12 15:02

She's nannying, right?

SPEAKER_06 15:03

Nanny, yeah, she's nannying for a nine-year-old. Um I think I think um I think the parents just assumed that Mia would not be available tomorrow, the day after her 21st birthday. Because she texted and was like, I don't think I'll be there till Tuesday, and he's like, oh no, we assume that was your starting date. Um other than that, though, that was a highlight. Uh the Cincinnati Curling Club, I'm not done with that because I got re-elected, Dean, to another term as finance director. Whoa. Yeah. I know you're you're big on that. So you're big on board work, right?

SPEAKER_05 15:42

I warned you and you didn't listen to me.

SPEAKER_06 15:44

Yeah, well, that was a figure skating club.

SPEAKER_05 15:46

And you got roped into that synchronized skating.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Uh for those who And we shared your misery too, because Kate and I went out to the Catering Ice Rink forever. Yeah, we went out there that time. Well, that time we went out there three or four times.

SPEAKER_09 16:01

I know, I think we did. I mean, it's a one-way.

SPEAKER_06 16:05

I can tell you, Sam, that poor accounting doesn't get you fired from the Cincinnati Curling Club. Um, no, Dan had warned me uh for for Tom and Kate's sake. Dan had warned me when when my daughter was doing uh synchronic figure skating, Dan, based on his uh wealth of experience being on the Dane State Soccer Board, etc., was like, whatever you do, don't don't don't join the board. And so about a year later, I said Dan, I'm the secretary. Yeah, and Dan's like, I get it, you have one child, you want to be supportive, I get it. But whatever you do, don't don't be the president of the board. So I get on the board. Yeah, so the next year um I became the president, and honestly, I I did not tell Dan for about a month. And this is when I saw Dan like three to five days a week regularly. And I waited about a month, and uh finally I broke the news to him, and uh he's he just started laughing and laughing and laughing, and I was like, well, he's still laughing.

SPEAKER_05 16:56

It's still laughing, it still reminds me of that famous scene in The First Godfather when the aging uh Don Colleone in the in the garden tells Michael when I'm gone, whoever comes to you to set up the deal, that's the rat. And I told you, Polly, whoever wants to get you on the board, is so damn tired of being on the board themselves. But the rule always is you gotta replace yourself before you can get freedom.

SPEAKER_06 17:24

Yeah, I do that. That part that part of your advice I followed. Religion.

SPEAKER_05 17:30

Oh wow, it was it was Tesio.

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It wasn't Clemenza Clemenza. Yeah, it was smarter when it's Tesso was a smarter one.

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There you go. All right. So how was the lobster?

SPEAKER_06 17:47

The lobster is fine. Um, you know, it uh it had uh steamed clams and uh coleslaw, um or corn, but the lobster is great. You know, you cracked it open, it was only one and a quarter pound, so you know, it's a little you know on the smaller side, but that's fine. Um I didn't put too much butter on it because I find that kills the uh the taste of the actual lobster. But uh I know, I know.

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I've seen for drawn butter. It really is.

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That's a good thing.

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It's like what I would it doesn't really have any taste without the butter. You put a little bit on it. What's the point?

SPEAKER_05 18:22

Catherine.

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Um I had a pretty normal week. Lots of work. It was lots of work. For a four-day week, it was a good one. Um, and then this weekend, I really just did garden things. So, yeah, I spent a lot of time outside today and like you had the weather for.

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Finally, finally.

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So yeah, I got my little vegetable garden planted. I didn't go as crazy as I normally do because I'm not gonna have that much time later this year to attend to it. Um planted some new things with that. She was hard at work this afternoon, and my man saw me all covered in dirt. She was working it was over there.

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You took a shower before you came.

SPEAKER_12 19:11

Of course I did. Oh yeah. You would not have wanted to sit next to me at all. That was gross. So, yeah, so that was that was my weekend.

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Okay.

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Pretty normal.

SPEAKER_08 19:25

Well, let's see. I I kind of did the same thing in the garden that we lived down in Oregon this week. I have a little flower bed right across the street, so I work on that. Uh still writing, and uh, did a story this week of uh Mo Douglas 40 years ago. I was still working out in Miami. I covered him when he went into the into the pros, and back then, now he's got religious stuff. Back then he was uh he would dress like Chris. I mean, he had ru ruffled shirts, and and he was a male dancer in the audience. Oh yeah. Oh right, all right, all right. He played for the Chicago Bears, and all the Bears' wives loved him, and uh some of his teammates wanted to kick his butt. Especially a couple of big linemen, but so I can remember doing uh get stories in here, and then now he's uh he's involved in Springfield. He talked kind of can be patient athletes over there, you know, and what happened to that he got rid of the book, and so it comes out tomorrow. So that was just uh reading for the story. Now I'll find something else for this week and just kind of more gardening, and there we go.

SPEAKER_05 20:46

I I read the article because I'm very do you still get the uh paper version. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, me too. I think you and I are probably the only ones that get the paper version anymore. Oh, you do? All right, there's three of us.

SPEAKER_12 21:02

Carlin Doris do too.

SPEAKER_03 21:04

I'm shocked. I'm shocked that Carlin Doris and Dan Garris get the paper version.

SPEAKER_12 21:09

I get I have a digital subscription. I get the digital version.

SPEAKER_03 21:13

I can't say that I read it every day, but I do get it in my box.

SPEAKER_12 21:16

I at least skim through it.

SPEAKER_02 21:17

I don't like reading on the iPod or whatever. It's not the same.

SPEAKER_05 21:23

I read the article and I loved it, uh, having been a Bears fan with all the crazy stuff he did. Unfortunately, he wasn't there for the Super Bowl shuffle year. Yeah. Came a year late. But he was still part of the craziness of the Bears. So yeah, that was a good article. Yeah, we don't want to hut uh tussle, we just came to do the Super Bowl shuffle.

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That's right.

SPEAKER_05 21:52

I remember it likely yesterday. Because that's all us Bears fans have is yesterday. Uh uh.

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True.

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We're about to have some tomorrows, I think.

SPEAKER_05 22:02

Yeah, maybe. You never can tell.

SPEAKER_12 22:03

What'd you do, Danny? Tough to visit.

SPEAKER_05 22:05

What I did is basically watched a lot of TV. Uh, Dark Winds finished that up. Great.

SPEAKER_02 22:12

Oh, I love that show. Oh my gosh. This season. Don't you think he's getting pretty metaphysical, though?

SPEAKER_05 22:19

Oh man, you know, each season gets better than the previous one.

SPEAKER_13 22:24

I love it.

SPEAKER_05 22:25

Oh man, that show is so good. It's based uh on the Tony Hillerman novels. Yes, I read that. Yeah. And uh interestingly enough, uh Robert Redford and George R. R. Martin were uh it was Robert Redford's last time in a in a on film. Really? And the beginning of season three, the very opening shot of season three, they walk through the jail cell at the Navajo Tribal Police Station, and there is Robert Redford playing check or a chess. How did I miss that? George R. R. Martin, which was really clever, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:04

I thought it was really, but uh Robert Redford was so gorgeous, but he did not age well, you know. Um I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 23:13

I think he was hot.

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Too much sun.

SPEAKER_03 23:16

Yes, he did his son.

SPEAKER_02 23:17

He did look leathery, real big time leathery, but still hot.

SPEAKER_03 23:22

Still, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:23

Yeah, he would he was so hot. Oh my god. Oh, I know. You're hot too. Well, thank you.

SPEAKER_05 23:29

Uh and I also love uh Deadliest Catch, which is about uh I think Deadliest Catch is like in its 20th season. I've watched everyone.

SPEAKER_13 23:39

I don't know that one.

SPEAKER_05 23:40

It's the Crabbers up in the Bering Sea.

SPEAKER_13 23:44

Dan's reality.

SPEAKER_05 23:45

It's on Friday on Discover. I love Deadliest Catch. That's a great show. Every crab pot that comes up, either full of crab or no crab at all, it's a great show. For 20 years I've watched it. It's compelling TV.

SPEAKER_02 23:57

In between gunsmoke.

SPEAKER_05 24:00

Yeah. Uh Deadliest Catch is great. And my other new, I think I talked about this last week was Filthy Fortunes. And so I have decided that I am no longer gonna get rid of my stuff. What?

SPEAKER_02 24:15

I'm going to ridiculous. Exactly. He never has gotten rid of his stuff. I know.

SPEAKER_12 24:21

I thought like American pickers would be the excuse, but now we've got a new one.

SPEAKER_05 24:25

I'm going to I'm going. Eddie said he's never going to carry another box into this house. I'm going to keep ordering stuff and buying stuff, and I'm going to stack it from the floor to ceiling.

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I'm going to even have little paths to walk through.

SPEAKER_05 24:39

I don't even want that. Because a true hoarder, you there's no path.

SPEAKER_02 24:43

You've got to be able to get to the bathroom.

SPEAKER_05 24:46

Maybe, maybe not. You ought to you have you ever watched Filthy Fortunes?

SPEAKER_13 24:50

I live with a hoarder. I shouldn't know about that.

SPEAKER_05 24:54

Well, you gotta watch Filthy Fortunes, girl. You come over. I got a couple of them recorded. One, the house is overrun by rats. And they're going through this stuff, and rats are running all over the place.

SPEAKER_02 25:06

Oh, yes, I think that would be just something I'd love to watch. Like, why would you want to watch that?

SPEAKER_05 25:12

Well, because this guy didn't believe in banks. And once they cleared the stuff out, they found $65,000 that the rats hadn't eaten. Now there was a lot of cash. He didn't package it all up. He didn't make it all room proof.

SPEAKER_02 25:33

Is that a curse? No. Oh. It's just the F-word?

SPEAKER_05 25:36

That's just the F word. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 25:38

So I'm familiar with it. Any?

SPEAKER_05 25:44

So, anyhow, I'm thinking about that rather than uh sending my stuff off documents.

SPEAKER_12 25:50

Well, I thought it would be so good.

SPEAKER_05 25:51

It would be my legacy that they could then call this guy up and go, our old man was crazy, come and look at his stuff.

SPEAKER_11 25:57

Oh no, don't worry about it. I am against boo-boo.

SPEAKER_05 26:00

Please man being against it, that kind of makes me want to do it.

SPEAKER_03 26:03

I know.

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They can still say that.

SPEAKER_03 26:06

Yeah, my old man was crazy, period. I mean.

SPEAKER_05 26:09

And then since Eddie and I got done with Breaking Bad, we're catching up on Gen V so we can watch the final season of Boys, which is on Jeff Bezos' Prime. It is one of the most bizarre, weird shows ever, but it's great. So, anyhow, it's it's political satire, it's gory, it's violent, a lot of nudity, uh, a lot of political satire. It's a great, great show, but you gotta watch it from the beginning.

SPEAKER_12 26:39

Does anyone else watch Hacks? I haven't, but I want to watch it. It's so good, and it just ended, and I watched the last episode of the series last night, and it was great. It's about like a woman who has she's a very successful comedian, and she uh gets teamed up with this younger woman writer, um, and they clash it for generational clash, and you know, their fingers clash, but then they become really like good friends, and like it's five seasons on HBO Max, it's really, really good. Yeah, but yeah, there's no one at the same way.

SPEAKER_02 27:16

Oh, is that is that Gene Smart? Jane Smart. Oh, yes, I just read about that. Well, she's she's really quite good.

SPEAKER_12 27:26

I know.

SPEAKER_02 27:26

Uh what was the one with uh oh she was it was a uh a detective show with Kate Blanchett, maybe? Come on. She was the mom.

SPEAKER_12 27:40

Oh, uh with Kate Winslick. Well, I was close. Mayor of East Town. Mayor of East Town. That was good.

SPEAKER_05 27:46

That was awesome. Yeah, that was a very, very good one.

SPEAKER_02 27:50

Yeah, it was only one season or two.

SPEAKER_05 27:53

Yeah, but it was very good.

SPEAKER_02 27:54

Yes, it was.

SPEAKER_05 27:55

Well, I had uh two good legacy brunches, uh, and then Saturday uh after brunch, Eddie and I met up at St. Kateri, where we had 45 long stem roses that we placed on Virginia's resting place. And it really was nice because they were long stem roses, and you know that's the green burial out there, and the grass was above your knee. So when Eddie stuck the uh the long-stem rose down, it stood up. So it looked like there's yeah, it looked like there was a uh a 45 uh uh red rose uh uh rose garden there. Right. And you did this for the anniversary. That was our 45th uh anniversary yesterday. Which brings me to then after that, I came back here and I changed my clothes. I took off my legacy pancake house t-shirt.

SPEAKER_03 28:49

Official sponsors.

SPEAKER_05 28:50

Official sponsor of Donald Dan. Um so Virginia and I were married uh Saturday, May 30th, 1981, at UD's Chapel with our reception at the Kennedy Union. Uh I got an invitation, I give money to uh Discover Classic radio station. And so what did you say?

SPEAKER_03 29:12

You give money to everything. You're so you're generous to everyone.

SPEAKER_05 29:15

Uh so uh when I got the notice that their that their rising star gala was going to be Saturday, May 30th, 2026, at on UD property, I thought, uh, that seems to be a good place to celebrate our 45th anniversary. And it was at the Daniel Kern Center, which is the old NCR World headquarters. Uh-huh. It was the first time I've ever been in there. That thing is massive.

SPEAKER_04 29:44

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 29:46

When I talked to them, they know me there at Classic, and they said, Well, you know, it's gonna be a pretty far walk back. I said, Oh, I've got a uh a wheelchair. I my son can wheelchair me in. I'm glad he did because man, that thing is so huge, and it was all the way in the back where you can look out and see all the trees and everything.

SPEAKER_11 30:04

Did Eddie take you or not? No, Frank. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 30:08

So, anyhow, I bought a table in uh that scared me.

SPEAKER_02 30:12

I bought it.

SPEAKER_05 30:13

I bought a table in memory of Virginia Maud Platt, and at the table I had my best man from the wedding, Dave Landon. I had groomsman uh Jeff Patzer and Dennis Leverman, and bridesmaid Helen Patzer, as well as my son Frank, uh Rachel Shelby, and Dennis's wife Debbie, who shortly before the event I found out that she's on the board of Discover Classic. I did not know that. Uh but it was a wonderful evening of good food and music performances by up-and-coming performers everywhere from a seventh-grade uh pianist uh to uh uh up to and including a UD voice major who's gonna start at UD this uh this uh uh fall. Uh and during one of the intermissions uh between the music acts, Sean Yu, the head of Discover Classic, uh gave a very moving uh tribute to our table celebration of Virginia and mine's 45th wedding anniversary. Uh so thank you, Sean, and thank you, the staff at uh Discover Classic, because you really made uh the 45th special.

SPEAKER_03 31:23

How wonderful.

SPEAKER_05 31:24

Uh and then to let you know, when things are going your way, things are going your way. I won one of the raffles. Whoa!

SPEAKER_03 31:33

What'd you win?

SPEAKER_05 31:35

To be announced later.

SPEAKER_03 31:37

Oh.

SPEAKER_05 31:37

Oh, okay. Caller. I'll announce it. I'll announce it. A wine tasting, private wine tasting at Joy.

SPEAKER_03 31:49

Oh yay! That's so great. We love joy.

SPEAKER_05 31:53

Where we had uh the reception after everybody went to SUFS. That's awesome. So I thought, man, this is really this yeah, this is really karma.

SPEAKER_02 32:02

So she's so great. She's so great. What does joy mean again? I've forgotten. Orgasm. Orgasm. I didn't have one, but I wasn't trying.

SPEAKER_05 32:15

So, anyhow.

SPEAKER_02 32:17

You had a nice time anyway. I did. Upstairs.

SPEAKER_05 32:21

Upstairs in my bedroom, I have uh two photographs of uh of Virginia. One her high school graduation photo, and the one is a more current one from a law school alumni event that we had. And every night before I go to bed, I tell Virginia what happened that day. And I swear last night she winked at me with her lovely green Irish eyes. Karma, whatever you want to call it, yesterday was a very good anniversary.

SPEAKER_03 32:48

So, anyhow. That's a great week, Danny. I love that.

SPEAKER_05 32:53

It's gonna be an anniversary to remember. It just everything just all fit into that May 30th UD. How beautiful than the drawer than one in the raffle, you know. So, anyhow, that's what we've done. Uh, and now it's time uh that I'm gonna read the intro to the movie. Okay, and then I'll finish eating after I read the intro to the movie. Okay. Uh so many of you know that uh I buy all the movies on DVD. Which they really have uh uh extra things on it, you know. Right. And and once again I've watched the movie twice. We did too. Once straight through and then once with commentary. Oh no. Uh and uh this time I I I watched all the trailers. And this was the trailer. This is how the trailer reads that was in the theaters. The management of this theater believes that on the waterfront is one of the truly great pictures of our time. Superb acting, inspired direction, and a story that is as warm and moving as Going My Way.

SPEAKER_12 34:03

What? That's an odd comparison.

SPEAKER_05 34:07

But with brass knuckles.

SPEAKER_12 34:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 34:09

Make on the waterfront an achievement that will be remembered as outstanding picture entertainment. We urge you to see it. On the waterfront is all this and more. It is tender love, terrifying conflict, exalted frenzy, marked down on the waterfront as one motion picture you must see. So, anyhow, I thought that was a pretty uh inspiring uh trailer that ran. It got best picture in 1954, and it competed against the Cain Mutiny, uh, The Country Girl, Seven Brides for Seven Brothers.

SPEAKER_03 34:48

Oh, and Three Coins in a Fountain. Oh, three coins in a fountain.

SPEAKER_05 34:53

And I can sing that if you want me to.

SPEAKER_04 35:00

And I'm okay with it.

SPEAKER_05 35:01

It got uh not only it got best picture, Oscar. It also got uh Oscar for Best Actor, Marlon Brando, Best Supporting Actress, Eva Marie Saint, in her first stage screen appearance, uh directing for Ella Kazan, uh story and screenplay for Bud Schulberg, uh cinatography black and white, because that's when they were still doing black and white versus color, Boris Kaufman, art direction, black and white for Richard Day, and film editing for Gene Milford. And from our book here that we consider the Bible, which is uh Robert Osborne's 80 Years of the Oscar, uh, this is what it said. Produced on a small budget of $820,000 in an era when most picture makers were concentrating on new widescreen processes and cinemascope projects, it stemmed from a series of crusading newspaper articles by Malcolm Johnson, fashioned into a tight script by Bud Schulberg, about brutality and corruption in the New York, New Jersey shipping docks. Brando played a longshoreman who awakens to the fact it's morally wrong to be enslaved by a crooked boss. Eva Marie Saint, in her first screen role, played his sensitive girlfriend who encourages the longshoreman's better instincts. Told in semi-documentary style, it was the strong screen fair in the 1954's most honored film with 12 nominations, and ultimately received eight. And this is interesting, and then I'm going to turn it over for comment. Brando's role was originally to have been played by Frank Sinatra. He sued uh the producers Spiegel in Columbia when they dropped him from the project and began filming with Braun Brando in the leading role. And just as a caveat to that, they dropped Sinatra. Brando was playing uh cat and mouse with him, so they got tired of that. So they said, we're gonna ask Paul Newman to do it. And as soon as Brando found out Paul Newman was being considered, he accepted the position.

SPEAKER_12 37:18

Paul Newman could play it. So I heard that. I think Frank could do. I really didn't play that story or read a different, slightly different version. They went to Brando and he turned it down. And then they offered it to Frank Sinatra. Frank Sinatra was in and was like ready to go. And that's oh, but they were still hooked on trying to get Brando to do it because they thought that the role needed a Brando, not a Sinatra. And so they had Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward film um some of the scenes, like just as like a test to screen test that a guy like that needed to be the lead, not bringing Sinatra.

SPEAKER_02 38:04

I heard Carl Malden was uh brought on to talk him into it, too.

SPEAKER_12 38:10

Yeah. That's interesting, yeah. At one point, Sinandra, after he lost the lead, tried to get in Carl Malden's thought.

SPEAKER_05 38:17

No, no.

SPEAKER_12 38:18

It just wouldn't have worked.

SPEAKER_05 38:20

No. But you know what would work? You pass it me the cheeseburgers.

SPEAKER_03 38:25

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 38:26

Do you want some do you want some a coup de month? He needs a bun. No, I don't need a bun.

SPEAKER_02 38:30

Do you need onions, tomatoes, lettuce? Yeah, just pile-ups and stuff.

SPEAKER_05 38:34

Yeah, I need ketchup and mustard and pickles.

SPEAKER_02 38:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 38:37

And then so how we usually do this, Kate, is we usually go around this way. So you would be up for your comments.

SPEAKER_02 38:45

Okay, I thought it was an excellent movie. But this is probably gonna get me thrown out. To me, it was certainly it was about crime and corruption, and but it was a love story.

SPEAKER_04 39:01

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 39:02

And I'm gonna tell you this when I was a kid growing up in East Dayton. My brother was five years older, and he was a hood. And he hung with hoods. And there were two brothers, and I believe their last name was Clancy, and they were both really good looking, but the younger one was the best looking one. But they were just hoods, they were thugs. The younger one falls in love with a young Irish girl from the neighborhood, real clean cut, and he ends up marrying her. They have a good family, everything's good. The older brother ends up going to prison. But so it's that that love connection that I think broke him loose, you know, so that he would have the nerve to do it. Uh love conquers all, as they say, right?

SPEAKER_00 39:48

Yeah. That's a good comment. That's really good. Because I didn't buy the quickness of the romance, but that's a good comment.

SPEAKER_02 39:54

Uh it's, you know, when you were that age, I mean, you just look at somebody go, oh, heart jumping out of the chest, you know. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, and Mormon tingly feelings in nether regions, and you know.

SPEAKER_08 40:07

She's tiptoeing all around the jar. She just wants to dive in that jar.

SPEAKER_02 40:17

Well, it wouldn't have been appropriate for a love story, I think. But you know, I mean, to me that was the uh the uh the overall thing, you know, how love can pull you out. That's beautiful, you know. Oh god, I'm just such a beautiful goddamn person. Didn't say it, almost said it.

SPEAKER_05 40:37

Well, I will tell you this the two film critics that did the commentary on the movie, and uh the director says the same thing you say.

SPEAKER_02 40:49

Is that right? I didn't do any cheat sheets either, like you two did. Well, redemption.

SPEAKER_05 40:54

It's a love story with redemption. Yes, redemption love story. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 40:59

So, you know, okay. Good, man.

SPEAKER_03 41:03

Yeah, it's a great movie. Uh definitely one of the best that we've seen. Uh Brando is so weird as a human and so excellent as an actor. He is such a fucking weirdo. I'll say it. Write it down. Write it down.

SPEAKER_05 41:20

I keep killing of them.

SPEAKER_03 41:23

It's so often he has to just keep it in his head. Um uh yes, I think like I think that's a really good way to say like the choice, he he sees a choice in his life when he meets uh Edie, right? Like he sees this choice. He didn't see a choice before being just what he called himself a bum. And so when he meets Edie and falls for her, then he like sees he has choices. And I think that's what the story is about. I mean, but it's a tough story. I mean it's a really tough story. It's tough to watch, you know. There were times where I was like, oh, I just can't take much more of this because it is very unfair. Life is really unfair, and it it holds that unfairness, I think, really strongly. Um yeah, I thought it was I thought it was like just very excellent. Now, I will say this what's the the director's name, Eliya? Ilya Kazan. You know, the biggest think in American history would be Ilya Kazan, because he was the one that turned everybody over in the House on American committee. And so it's also it's also, you know, he was like the first. He was the first. He was the key. And I think it's really interesting that he chose to do a movie about how it's good to inform. It's good to inform. I thought that was really interesting. Uh because here's a guy, you know, who's trying to redeem himself with the people that he is like he does it through that. And I think I read somewhere where Orson Wells had like words about that. I know you hate Orson Wells, yeah. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_08 42:54

He said he was a rat, and uh he wrote a story about a rat. Yes, that's right, that's right. And Schulberg did the same. Schuberg uh also testified and gave up all the names. Yeah. 17 names.

SPEAKER_03 43:06

Yeah, so I like um these people were very the people that did the movie, the people in the they're complex people for sure, but man, Brando's um, I can't imagine anybody but Brando doing.

SPEAKER_11 43:18

Oh I know.

SPEAKER_02 43:21

Marlon Brando looked like um Burt Reynolds, and he does just the eyes. Yeah, no, but he's got those really hooded eyes.

SPEAKER_12 43:31

Those eyes like a fighter. Yeah. A fighter who's been punched a lot in the face. Cut and he had the eye, you know, that split in his eyebrow. Like he just he looked like he's but he he was despicable in real life, I think.

SPEAKER_02 43:50

Oh god, he's such a weirdo. Such a weirdo, but he could have.

SPEAKER_03 43:54

But I mean, I did go back to watch the famous scene like two more times after we got.

SPEAKER_09 44:00

I mean, that is just like that scene, that speech in the car with the movie.

SPEAKER_03 44:03

With Charlie, this brother Charlie could have been a contender. I could have had class. I could have been somebody. I mean, he delivers it so great. Um, yeah, so that's that's what I have to say about this movie, Danny.

SPEAKER_02 44:15

So see, this is going way better in a couple of them. You guys all ganged up on Dan.

SPEAKER_06 44:24

Kate Kate, I I know Dan's been talking about having you and Tom here for a while, but Well, we got paid. Well, there isn't there was a suspicion that you know on my part that he was trying to, you know, like even the odds in case for some outlandish reason we didn't like this movie. So Nan?

SPEAKER_03 44:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 44:45

Kate Evans. No misogyny in this movie. Oh, there's misogyny in this movie.

SPEAKER_03 44:51

And you too.

SPEAKER_05 44:52

Of course there's. I mean, you're giving this a break because it's Brand Up?

SPEAKER_03 44:56

No, it's it's an excellent movie, but like I was uncomfortable where he like, you know, pins her against a door.

SPEAKER_02 45:03

That's what they did back then.

SPEAKER_03 45:05

I knew that's what she was gonna say. It doesn't make it run. It doesn't make it run.

SPEAKER_02 45:10

It's the way the world writes.

SPEAKER_03 45:11

And I think I think that's more that's more of my comments around the misogyny. Like the every year, it's more of it was a misogynistic culture. So of course all of these, and they have different levels of misogyny because it was 1953. I mean, women, you know, it was illegal to, you know, have your own credit card, to own your own house. You couldn't own and buy a house.

SPEAKER_02 45:35

You couldn't have birth control, you couldn't have your utility.

SPEAKER_03 45:39

Yeah, you could like so it was a misogynistic culture.

SPEAKER_05 45:42

Yeah, you know, yeah. It was gonna come out eventually.

SPEAKER_12 45:46

Yeah, it was.

SPEAKER_02 45:47

But see, I think that's a good thing. So yes, of course it was misogynistic. These two are looking at it through a different lens than you and I are, and that's part of old.

SPEAKER_12 45:56

Yeah, that's part of like what makes some of these movies harder than others, right? Like, you know, trying to kind of like view it through a modern lens, but like set that aside to try to emerge what it is and what it was at that time. Thank you right, and some of them, it's hard for me to get past. Right. Like, but this it like this one is so good. It's so tremendous.

SPEAKER_09 46:22

It's just pointing this out isn't us necessarily cracking on the movie. It's just that's what the time is. Well, now you really know why we have Sunday dinner. We repeatedly said we liked the movie, and Dan kept saying it was five against one.

SPEAKER_12 46:42

You know, that's true. He have you you've been a loyal listener. He rarely says anything bad about any of the movies, even the really bad ones.

SPEAKER_02 46:51

What was uh what was the one that you guys just hated Hamlet and Hamlet, those two. Yeah, the greatest show on earth was just worthless, I thought.

SPEAKER_09 47:04

Exactly! Exactly. We're ganging up on him. Seven against one. I didn't mean it. I just came out.

SPEAKER_02 47:14

These guys hypnotized me.

SPEAKER_09 47:19

All right, Sammy. Uh we since we we brought up uh misogyny, you know, one thing we've not seen in any of these movies hardly is any representation of an African American.

SPEAKER_11 47:30

Yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_09 47:30

There were there were like a couple African Americans in the dock workers, which was actually a big step forward compared to a lot of other movies from the time.

SPEAKER_06 47:41

This movie may have the fewest number of female actors being one. I don't know if we've seen another one where there's just one, where there is only just one.

SPEAKER_12 47:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 47:49

Um but but you notice the African American guys in the in the work pool, they never got picked. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_12 47:54

Yeah, they didn't get picked either. That's right. That's right, they were always on the outside.

SPEAKER_09 47:59

That's right.

SPEAKER_02 48:00

So you're still not seeing representation of the year. Yeah. That's right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 48:08

Possibly, although in being around New York City might have been better by that time, but I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 48:13

I don't know, because I I did a little dive on the dock workers union, and uh even to this day it's still bad. Yeah, it's mostly white. It's still pretty white male.

SPEAKER_02 48:25

Right atmosphere all the way around. I mean, they're probably well, they're they were worse than the teamsters. Right? I mean, they did a season two of the wire.

SPEAKER_13 48:34

My dad was in the world.

SPEAKER_09 48:35

Yeah, they did a season of the wire about dark workers.

SPEAKER_03 48:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 48:40

Yeah, there's a well, yeah, the they're always in you know, they're always a possibility to be correct.

SPEAKER_08 48:47

And then his later's grandson would bring it around and get killed well into his 80s, you know. So yeah, so anyways, but uh the the scene I liked was uh the scene with the T D touching his face and so you can bring it on.

SPEAKER_03 49:05

It does support Cage theory. Good point.

SPEAKER_08 49:08

Oh wait, well then uh wait, maybe wait, maybe my one was a page one. That's it.

SPEAKER_05 49:17

Okay. Uh from the uh the extras that I get to watch and the commentary, uh, one thing was, you know, since they did it on such a shoestring budget that it was uh shot totally on location. And if you notice, and I didn't notice it until I heard the commentary, then I went back and watched it. On a lot of the scenes, you could see the uh actors' breath because it was so that was cold, that's true. And it was it they they started filming it at the start of winter.

SPEAKER_12 49:51

I thought that they were on location for this. Yeah, they were on location, it's such a difference.

SPEAKER_05 49:56

Yeah, and uh it was so cold that members of the Screen Actors Guild and the Extra Screen Actors Guild said you can use non-guild members. So a lot of the people because that was too cold for them to work. They were actors, they weren't gonna come out for that. So a number of the actors or a number of the longshoremen were actually longshoremen.

SPEAKER_03 50:25

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_05 50:26

Oh yeah, that were getting paid because they were used to working in the cold. Yeah. So if you look at certain scenes, sometimes it's a cigarette smoke, but a lot of times it's not. It's not. It's you know, it's so cold. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:40

It's not.

SPEAKER_05 50:41

So uh I thought that was interesting. Uh the uh the couple scenes that they that they uh pick out as scenes that change how the story's going. Yeah. And and it uh they think it was probably ad-lived. The park scene where she drops the glove. In the original sh in the it's not in the original script, but she dropped the glove on accident and they kept going with it because one thing Brando was known for was ad-living. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_09 51:16

And uh sometimes because he refused to learn his lines. Right.

SPEAKER_05 51:21

And when he picked it up, uh that is when he started it, they they called it a pivotal uh part of the movie because it's showing that Terry has some gentleness to him. Yeah. That he picks the glove up. And then, you know, he uh uh uh how would such a a rigid, strict Catholic uh high school girl get hooked up with this guy while he showed some you know gentlemen kept picking that up. So I thought that was interesting. Um the uh oh the uh crucifixion scene. They were kind of like okay, that was a little bit uh overboard.

SPEAKER_03 52:06

But uh you mean the scene with Carl Moulden?

SPEAKER_05 52:10

Yeah, where the they kill the guy with the Irish whiskey.

SPEAKER_03 52:13

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 52:14

That's the crucifixion scene, yeah. Uh but of course, probably the most famous scene of the movie is the I Could have been a contender scene.

SPEAKER_03 52:23

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 52:24

And they were shooting it on such a limited budget uh that the guy who was in charge of filming didn't bring the back screen projection to show that they were in a cab.

SPEAKER_02 52:41

That's why the blinds were back there. Yeah. So I wondered about that.

SPEAKER_05 52:45

They were like, we gotta keep shooting. Uh so what are we gonna do? And one of the guys said, Well, I just wrote in from somewhere, and that taxi cab had uh Venetian blinds in it. So they immediately went, got Venetian blinds, cut it, because they had the shell of a cab. Right. But they didn't uh they didn't have a full cab. And so they had the griffs on one side or the other that would shake the the shell that they were in, and uh other griffs were holding lights that would act like the oncoming headlights. Wow. So I thought that was pretty interesting. And the other thing that I found very interesting is apparently Brando's mother had died shortly before this movie, and he was undergoing intense uh psychotherapy uh and he had an understanding that he could leave uh and he took not any time he wanted to, but most every day, he could leave by four o'clock to get to his therapy sessions. So they're they're filming the the taxicab scene, and you know, it's they're doing a lot of ad living, they're doing a lot of this, they're doing a lot of that, and then all of a sudden Brando's like, I'm out of here. And so Steiger and and it on the extra that I have, it's Rod Steiger talking about it, and he goes, and I'm like, What do you mean Brando gets to leave? We're doing this scene. So they had a uh like a body double, yeah, and he, you know, so he's not talking to Brando on a number of that, he's talking to the body double because they're shooting it from all these different angles, which I found fascinating.

SPEAKER_13 54:28

Well, you have to be, I think, a really tremendous actor to be able to do that. To be able to do that.

SPEAKER_05 54:33

Oh yeah. Well, and that's a lot of people are thinking, you know, Stagger should have got something for this because that scene doesn't work without him. And that's and it's probably, you know, if you do top ten movie scenes of all time, from from Edison's first one all the way to whatever came out yesterday, that's gonna be in the top ten that I could have been a contender. You know, it's that it was you, Charlie. It was you, Charlie, and he pulls the gun on him and he pushes the gun away. Uh yeah, come on, Charlie. And Charlie realizes, well, that's that means I'm dead too. Yeah. You know. Uh, and it's you know, it's about uh they they finally confront their big brother, little brother role. Uh you know, the you you did this to me, Charlie. You're the one that well, I had but you made some money on it, but you know, I could have been a contender. Well, I had some bets on you, you know. So I thought that was interesting how they were able to uh uh pull that off. And one of the commentators said this was really the last great black and white movie, with the exception of Raging Bull. That uh you know, it was really because after that it's you know, people are gonna do color movies, they're not gonna do black and white movies, but it was really thought that this needs to be in black and white. So I thought that was interesting.

SPEAKER_12 55:58

Um being color. No, the black and white suits the suits the tone. Yeah, well and as much as like the the cold air, the breath, and the I mean it just made it all work perfect.

SPEAKER_05 56:14

It was just yeah, and you you're talking about Tom, you talked about uh the pigeons that the the the kids there, he's gonna carry that on. One of the other things they they talk about transition shots and the fat cat who you just see is back, he's watching TV about it, he's got the cigar, and that's like yeah, that lets you know that the guy that's above the guy, that's above the guy, that's above the guy, it's he's gonna change it because it's too much heat and he's gonna have to go down and take care of it himself, which he which he does. Right yeah. Now, the other thing I found interesting is shortly after this movie debuted and it got rave reviews and everybody lined up to see it, they did have an election.

SPEAKER_12 57:02

Farmer Eddie's here. Farmer Eddie, Edmund.

SPEAKER_05 57:05

Edmund, we still got plenty of food.

SPEAKER_12 57:07

Oh, just let me go take a shower. Okay. Thank God.

SPEAKER_05 57:11

The food will be here.

SPEAKER_09 57:12

Please.

SPEAKER_05 57:13

Eddie's back from toiling. Uh so anyhow, where was I at?

SPEAKER_02 57:18

Um shit. Where was he at? It was a good point. It was.

SPEAKER_00 57:25

Showing the fat cat, the back of the fat cat.

SPEAKER_05 57:30

Oh, yeah. So shortly after the movie came out, and it was very popular. They had an election where the good guys, an actual election of the union.

SPEAKER_09 57:40

Long shorter.

SPEAKER_05 57:41

Longshormen union, where that they were the good guys, and there was actually a loosely based Catholic priest who was actually there trying to organize and do things, you know, one of the one of the early activist priests. And uh although one of the great lines in the movie is when she says to Carl Malden, uh, you never see saints hiding in a church. Yeah. That was pretty good line.

SPEAKER_12 58:06

Oh, her I that's why I think like as for the only woman in this movie, she is the catalyst for like all of the change. Oh, sure, yeah. You know, she really is. She spurs the trees into his activism. She, you know, I mean, it's just like she really like makes everything happen.

SPEAKER_05 58:26

So, anyhow, they had an election and the bad guys won.

SPEAKER_02 58:31

Oh, dude.

SPEAKER_05 58:31

It was close, but the bad guys won.

SPEAKER_02 58:33

Every time.

SPEAKER_05 58:34

But the bad guys won. So every time that's pretty much my comments on.

SPEAKER_02 58:40

You like this movie? Jesus, Nan.

SPEAKER_05 58:48

I'm not gonna say it. Yes, I like this movie.

SPEAKER_02 58:51

I'm so shocked. She's like a burr in your shorts, isn't she?

SPEAKER_05 58:59

There's no mutiny. I'm used to it.

SPEAKER_03 59:01

I know no mutiny.

SPEAKER_01 59:02

No mutiny.

SPEAKER_05 59:03

I'm used to it.

SPEAKER_03 59:04

Everybody, everybody loves this one.

SPEAKER_05 59:06

So, uh, okay. Final thoughts? We go around the table for final thoughts.

SPEAKER_02 59:12

Damn, I've done used all my thoughts up. I'm done.

SPEAKER_05 59:17

Nan Whaley. Well, final thoughts can be what you're gonna do this coming week, too.

SPEAKER_02 59:22

The same thing as I did last week.

SPEAKER_13 59:24

Okay, that works.

SPEAKER_03 59:26

Um, I'm excited on the block. We're gonna have somebody new move here. I think next week, Darius' fiance is moving in. He's our next door neighbor. City commissioner.

SPEAKER_09 59:42

He's a dated city commissioner. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 59:46

Oh God, he's he's good looking too. Yeah, his fiance, they're a beautiful couple. Uh she's moving in um from a good looking couple indeed.

SPEAKER_09 59:53

Oh, yeah, man.

SPEAKER_03 59:54

And uh, but she's bringing her golden doodle, Theo. So Baker and Archie and Louis will have to get together to welcome Theo to the block.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:08

And then he then uh she or he can meet the Tennessee tree climber. Oh, they all hate every dog.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:16

There's a Warsaw Pact.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:17

It'll be another member of the uh NATO Alliance. Yes, against the T.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:21

Have you ever seen a Tennessee tree climber?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:23

No.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:24

He just walked by. He's a really interesting guy. He is the morning radio guy from uh Ohio University Radio.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:32

W-O-U-B.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:33

He does it from the Travis. He does it from the attic in Row Avenue in Tennessee. He's not in Athens. He does it from Row Avenue all the way down there. Uh used to do it from Athens. Yeah, he used to do it from the years ago. But he has a Tennessee tree climbing dog. And I remember I was sitting there and the dog got out because the dog's crazy. Dog got out, and the next thing I know, that dog is running up a tree, and I'm like, I will never forget. Holy crap!

SPEAKER_02 1:00:58

Seriously. He was probably trying to get off the ground.

SPEAKER_12 1:01:01

Yeah, your kidding was up the climbed it or jumped.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:05

No, he climbed it.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:07

Jump and climb. Jump and climb. It's really something else. But the um the dogs of the block hate him because Baker and Peck hate each other. And Baker has whipped all the other dogs to hate, like they're in alliance.

SPEAKER_12 1:01:24

Like the movie we just watched Keacog Archie, who is a little Scottish terrier, Louie.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:29

Louis Baker, Baker and Louie best friends. Be a thieves.

SPEAKER_12 1:01:33

They all bark at the biggest. They like in unison against Peck.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:37

Peck barks again. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_09 1:01:40

But then the other dog they have joins with Peck against the other dogs. It's like we saw Pact in NATO.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:47

It's really serious. I'm gonna have to Google that.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:50

It's for real. Tennessee tree climber. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:52

But um but I'm excited about the new uh the new uh neighbor, and then also 204.

SPEAKER_12 1:02:00

Oh yeah, it's on the market.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:02

Uh for what? For $250,000. For the housewife, Marty. Yes, the reverse green gables. So this house is across is next to Marty, and it's our house is white with green, and it is green with white. It's the reverse, and they've like done all this work on it, and we've been watching it, and they're selling it, so that's the big news.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:27

And we tried to buy it uh pre-COVID. Yeah, there are five of us came in together, but we got out the flipper from California bought it. Thought they could flip it, and then they sold it, but now that's the good person. Yeah, and that's a good person. They ripped everything out, fixed everything right.

SPEAKER_12 1:02:42

The pictures make it if I mean if everything looks that good at all.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:46

But some of it's AI, you don't know anymore.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:49

So if that goes for $250, I wonder how much I can get for this with my enhanced elevator.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:54

Well, I bet I could not if you have all this shit.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:57

I bet I could make enough to. I bet I could take that money and move to Hollywood. Um, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:12

You can watch a lot of movies right here. She just went out legacy. Yeah, come on.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:17

I mean, you love you love being with us all the time. I know. We're sad sad Diaz moving out. But we but we get her on the block for five more weeks, so that's good.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:27

Thank goodness. When do you go back home?

SPEAKER_10 1:03:30

July 5th.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:32

Okay. Are you looking forward to it doing it? Party. Partly?

SPEAKER_10 1:03:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:37

Why?

SPEAKER_10 1:03:38

Well, a part of me wants to be here, and a part of me wants to be there.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:42

So what will you do when you go back home?

SPEAKER_10 1:03:45

Um school.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:48

How many?

SPEAKER_10 1:03:48

Two. Two? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:50

And then what do you think? Do you know yet?

SPEAKER_10 1:03:53

I don't know something in biology. I want to go to biological biology.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:57

Back here or over in the world.

SPEAKER_10 1:03:58

I don't know yet. Oh, she might be back.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:02

She's so boy.

SPEAKER_09 1:04:04

What else were you to say, Sammy? Oh, I'm just really happy the archdeacons could make it. Yeah. You'll you'll have to look ahead and find a uh another movie that you that you love and come back and Tom, you're the number one reason to subscribe to the paper. Absolutely. And have been for some time. That is absolutely true.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:23

Thank you, Tom.

SPEAKER_09 1:04:24

Thank you. Duncan?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:26

Oh, Dee had something to say. Yeah, D had.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:30

It's her fair movie. Never mind. No, no, no, no, no. No, you uh God. Oh god. No, just forget it. I'll sit in the never mind.

SPEAKER_10 1:04:39

Well, I was I wanna I was gonna say the same thing. It's just yeah, it's gonna be a little sad, but I'll stick it around. I mean, I'm always moving everywhere all the time. So that is true.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:52

Yeah, you you visit the six houses of roads.

SPEAKER_12 1:04:55

Yeah, you have to visit everyone still.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:58

What are the six houses of roads? All the Gareth people. Uh yes, the Gareth is Kate.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:04

Yeah, it's like the five is the Kate and the Hilliard Watts, and then the Hilliard Watts is uh uh and Charles's parents live here too. And so Dea works the block up and down. She checks on all of us, and then she tells each of us what's new with each other. We actually don't talk to each other, but I know like what's happening in Kate because Dea has come and reported in.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:24

She's our little spy.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:25

Yeah, she she gives all the details. It's a visitor, it's nice. How was Kate today? Oh, she was good, it's nice.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:31

Oh, she was being a real bit. She was terrible.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:37

Paul?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:38

I don't have anything to add, Dan. Not a nowhere this week? No, I don't I don't have any plans this week, although I guess lunch with you on Tuesday, Dan, right? I'm still doing that. Maybe not, based on his face.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:50

Um No Tuesday's good. Yeah. Tuesday's good. I got something Wednesday and I got something Thursday, but Tuesday's good.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:58

So yeah. Other than that, that's it for now.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:02

Katherine Ann.

SPEAKER_12 1:06:03

I think it's more the same for me. Lots of work.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:07

I go to Long Beach this week.

SPEAKER_12 1:06:09

Oh god, that sounds so nice.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:11

Yeah. Except for the plane ride.

SPEAKER_12 1:06:15

When is that?

SPEAKER_03 1:06:16

Thursday morning. For what? I'm going to the US Conference of Mayors meeting to see my fellow my you know, former mayor, so that I'm like, I didn't know that. You were the mayor? I know. Um it's a big secret on this podcast and everywhere else. And um, but I'm I have this other podcast uh that's called Carrie as You Climb. And I've had it since 2018. I took a hiatus, and these women uh wanted me to start it back up and they they manage it all. But I always have to find women to interview, and so I'm going there to interview uh some mayors. So I'm I right now have booked the mayor of Phoenix, the mayor of Beaverton, Oregon, the mayor of Boise, Idaho, who's a big Democrat activist. Oh God love her. But uh Alexandria, Virginia, um Reno, Nevada, so they'll all be there. Riverside, California. Yeah, they're all there. So I'm gonna take my stuff. I have a room and I'm gonna crank out some podcasts. Because that's a week, that doesn't it's not like this one, it's weekly and it has seasons, and it's just in it ending season three. And um, I have a couple more left, but this week on that podcast, I interviewed Randy Weingarten. And Randy Weingarten is the president of the American Federation of Teachers, true uh labor legend, just an amazing um, you know, first first gay president, first, you know, Jewish. She was Jewish, gay, and a woman as a national union president. She's a boss. People like call her the most dangerous person in America. The right, that's what the right calls her. Wow. So she was on this podcast. Anyway, that's so that's what I'm doing.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:59

So I can't wait till you get sidetracked at TSA with your bag full of electronic equipment. Because you gotta be on somebody's no fly list.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:12

Maybe so, but I'm taking it.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:13

Maybe you better UPS your stuff out there.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:15

No, no, I'm gonna carry it on.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:17

Uh, there you go.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:18

Anyway, that's where I'm off to this week.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:19

We'll warry you up. Uh Tom.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:22

I don't know. Just yeah, same with me, more of the same. Find another story, gotta find a couple stories. And uh you know, I wore this shirt. And it says it says key West on here, but there's a reason I wore this. I'm trying to think uh when uh Hemingway big fight guy, and and uh and uh Bud Schulberg, the big fight, you know, he was the harder they fall, and all this other stuff. So Bud Schulberg goes down to Key West, and he and Hemingway are in some bar, and Hemingway says, You don't know boxing, and they get into an argument and they have to be separated in Key West from fighting over who knew the most boxing. So, but you know, Schulberg's story, he wrote uh it was called just Waterfall that he wrote it, and in his story, uh Terry Malloy dies. Really? And it's told through the he tells it through the eyes of the priest, more of the priest. That's interesting. Well, it changes everything.

SPEAKER_13 1:09:31

It's like Graveheart, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:32

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so interesting. Uh yeah, I don't um just looking for another story. So anybody.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:39

So since you mentioned uh Hemingway, yeah, didn't it there was a part, there was a line in the movie about that's a six-toed cat?

SPEAKER_08 1:09:48

Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, I thought of that from a liter of cats.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:54

And Hemingway's cats were six-toed, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:09:58

So maybe maybe that was a little uh has anybody been to the Hemingway house in the US? Yeah, it's really cool. Oh, they've got all uh uh 40, 50 cats just running through as they're bringing tours through.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:11

Yeah, that's probably why. I mean, why else would you mention the six-toe cat?

SPEAKER_05 1:10:14

Yeah, right. That's what I was thinking, yeah. When you mentioned that with Hemingway.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:17

And he later wrote a book called Sparring with Hemingway, that was a collection of his essays. Oh. So he gave a tip to him. So yeah, that's I didn't even think about when I saw the six-toe cat. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:28

But uh Well, you know, Tom Archdeacon. I've known you for quite a while.

SPEAKER_13 1:10:34

Right. Too long.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:35

Tom and I are both products of the Great Black Swamp.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:40

Which is Northwest Ohio. Is that right? You're only 14 miles from each other.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:46

And we used to go to the same drive-in theater.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:49

Well, because there was only one. Uh Vandale Drive In. And they all shared a car.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:54

Vandale was halfway between Van Wert and Delphus. That's right. And as a Protestant boy growing up in Van Wert, if I wanted to find a hot Catholic girl like Nan Whaley or Kate Evans, I would go to Vandale because Delphus High School, St. John's High School in Delphus, was two or three times larger than the public school.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:15

Oh, St. Thomas girls lined the whole back row.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:19

Yep. And the back row was where the action was. I heard back row, back, oh, that's where the action was.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:31

Delphus St. John. I remember even when I was in high school, they had a hell of a football school.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:36

Oh, yeah. They were two or three times larger than Delphus Jefferson, which was the public school.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:41

I mean, they were like, they were always on.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:44

When you were in high school, they were playing with leather helmets, though.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:47

Dolphus!

SPEAKER_08 1:11:48

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:50

But so, anyhow, I've known Tom Archdeacon for quite a while. He's done uh my family uh so many good articles about my family, about when Lily was uh rowing. Yeah, uh when she uh worked for uh AmeriCorps. He did a great article on Frank when Frank was out teaching the Apache. Uh Marty said, God, what do I got to do now? Cure cancer to have Archdeacon. To have Archdeacon do an article about me. And I can't even tell you what Eddie says. But uh anyhow.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:26

Just for that, Eddie's getting it first.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:28

I know, you know, since when you get retired, people all the time want to find things for you to do. Well, Tom, there you go.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:37

Oh boy.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:37

I'm willing to go on this adventure with you. Okay. Okay. There will someday we will be done with the best pictures. Right. Okay. Even though there'll be one every day.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:50

And possibly 75 weeks.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:52

Well, we're we've got a way to go. But we've also got a way to go. I know of nobody who can write better than you. I won't come around this way, Eddie. There's a chair for me there. I don't know of anybody that can write better than you that I've ever met in my entire life. And I know you love doing research. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:14

And I know here's mine, he can borrow mine. I'll give it on.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:19

And and I know you love doing research.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:22

Oh, God, does he ever.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:23

So this is what I'm going to propose to you, Tom. Okay. And I've given this great thought. And you don't have to say yay or nay. You don't have to say yay or nay tonight, but I want you to think about it. Well, we still live. I want you to think about it. Uh you're a great writer.

SPEAKER_09 1:13:43

Remember, cursing for a good cause. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:46

You're a great humanitarian. You're really buttering me up or something.

SPEAKER_12 1:13:49

I know what is about to happen.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:51

And I know you love I know you love movies. Yeah. So what I'm proposing is that you and I go on this journey.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:02

Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_12 1:14:03

And it's going to be a journey or a metaphorical journey.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:10

Well, I mean, we'll walk every once in a while, but not a lot.

SPEAKER_12 1:14:14

You keep referring to a journey. I'm just trying to figure out.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:16

Well, yeah, you know, life's a journey.

SPEAKER_12 1:14:18

I know. I'm just trying to figure out.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:20

Oh my God, let him get to it. Well, if you're always true for us. Yeah, I know, right?

SPEAKER_05 1:14:26

Yeah, I mean, this is dinner with Dan. Eventually, we're going to run out of best pictures. So, what I propose is we're going to hopefully we're going to start the Tom Archdeacon boxing movie review. Oh, that'd be now to start. And there's a whole bunch more back ordered that haven't got here yet.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:52

Oh, geez.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:54

To start.

SPEAKER_12 1:14:55

Eddie, another box made a bigger.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:57

To start.

SPEAKER_08 1:14:58

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:59

To start.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:00

I lost.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:02

We're going to start with Shakedown from 1928.

SPEAKER_11 1:15:07

Shakedown.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:08

Then we're going to do the champ from 1931.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:12

Oh god, yeah. Wallace Berry. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:15

Here you go. You can put them in there. Then you're going to do Edgar G. Robinson and Betty Davis with Kid Galahad.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:22

Oh sure.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:26

Then we're going to go to The Crowd Roars with Robert Taylor, Marino Sullivan.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:32

Oh God.

unknown 1:15:33

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:35

Then we're going to do Errol Flynn as Gentleman Jim.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:39

Oh, he was hot. He was hot.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:43

And then the 1979 remake of the chant with John Voigt. Then for Kate, Million Dollar Baby. Alright.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:54

Is that the one with um what's the one? That's a really good one. That was a hard one. Who was married to Chad Lowe at the time?

SPEAKER_05 1:16:04

Married to Chad Lowe at the time.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:06

Well that was that that was something. Then Cinderella Man.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:10

Cinderella Man, yeah. Then Hands of Steel. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:16:16

Hands of Stone. Hands of Stone. Oh, it was close.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:19

Roberto Duran, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:21

And then the most recent? Christie with Sidney Sweeney. Yeah, there you go. Oh, I haven't seen that.

SPEAKER_12 1:16:30

Wow.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:30

If you accept Rocky and Roger, where's Rocky and Roger Bowl? They're coming.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:36

Yeah, like what do you I mean you must have to do that?

SPEAKER_05 1:16:37

You know, I I don't want to give him all 45 to start off with.

SPEAKER_12 1:16:42

Oh my god. Well. Now this is what I'm thinking. You can lose his number.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:49

This is what I'm thinking. Okay. This is what I'm thinking. You watch the movie from the boxing technical standpoint about this guy was probably a boxer or somebody really trained him or whatever, and we'll try to do all the kind of different research we can do on whether this guy really boxed who was in it. Like you knew that there were two boxers in on the waterfront. So you know boxing. I'm not asking you to do this for curling or for uh synchronized skating or for rowing, but you know boxing. That's next to your boxing in a box of random movies. I really see this as a legacy baseball uh effort for you. I mean, I think I think this is one that can live in the boxing world forever because you know boxing. Yeah, you love boxing, the sweet sport. And you can look at it from a good critical standpoint and also from a movie standpoint. And you can start watching them and you can keep uh index cards or however you want to do it, your notes and stuff. And then as the more and more.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:58

Or you could use a computer, as many do in these eras.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:04

What's computer when you've got legal pads?

SPEAKER_02 1:18:07

I thought I thought you were. That's how he writes all his stories. Oh, yeah, this is all on type type typewriting.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:14

Just so you know, on back order. Front and back, and he'll have pages and pages. Another ten on back order. Well, but you've got time to do this. Yeah, I mean you don't have to do it by next week, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:24

Well, because we have 75 more uh best pictures.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:29

One of us is gonna be coming in in an iron loan to do it. Yeah, but but holding it up, Joe.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:35

But hear me out.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:36

Tom, you're fogging up, what?

SPEAKER_05 1:18:39

Hear me out here, Tom.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:40

You can't see the screen.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:42

Hear me out. We don't have to wait till we get done with that. No, you don't. Once you get like four or five done, yeah, and we feel comfortable, we can start doing it during the week.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:53

Who's gonna do the setup?

SPEAKER_03 1:18:54

Huh? We can help. We'll help you. He has his people. He has his people.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:59

I don't know if you notice where his people that are back ordered, and one's a 1927 silent. I thought this 28 was the oldest one. I found a 1927 silent. So Tom Archdeacon.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:16

Ah.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:16

But this is what are you gonna do?

SPEAKER_02 1:19:18

But you know what? I don't have our after you watch it.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:23

Okay. I want you to watch it first.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:24

I don't know how to do that.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:25

Then when you're done watching it, you give it to me. I usually have to watch it. And I'll watch it and I'll write my notes.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:31

Eddie, can you do that?

SPEAKER_05 1:19:32

I mean, does that work?

SPEAKER_02 1:19:33

Eddie, can you do that? We've got to hook up our Eddie can do it. Hey, do you know how to do that? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:39

Hey, I'll tell you what I do on the DVD. What? I got this $179 DVD player.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:46

No, we've got one.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:47

I just I mean, do you have a little one?

SPEAKER_02 1:19:48

No, well, uh the kind that hooks into your TV, but I uh we just had to get a new TV and I That's Ann Charles Watts where she's moving to them people right there.

SPEAKER_12 1:19:59

Them people, you just said people.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:02

He did so.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:02

Well, anyhow, anyway. I use a little tabletop one. Eddie, it's just a matter of hooking one plug in the phone. I hope I haven't surprised you with that. But I think you would, you know, your articles. I still have every article you wrote from the 1988 Olympics.

unknown 1:20:24

You?

SPEAKER_05 1:20:25

Yeah, oh hell yes. And I have every article you ever wrote about the date.

SPEAKER_11 1:20:31

It's like his mother.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:33

You wrote an article that I swear to God, if I could find it, I would open it up. And you had from the first paragraph till the end, you could smell Hera Arena.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:47

Because it was Hera Arena had a distinct smell. It had an aroma. Oh my god, it was stale beer.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:56

Remember Carlos Peña? There, you wrote this article. I swear to God, it was your piece of resistance, man. It was it was your piano.

SPEAKER_08 1:21:06

It was really he's really working me again. I I already agreed. I agree.

SPEAKER_12 1:21:11

No, see, when you're having a bad day, you call Dan. Right. He will get you back on track.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:17

All right, perfectly.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:18

But you don't remember that. I know you've written so many that it's hard to remember that, but I'm telling you, you can, you know, good journalists that you are, you have to have a lasting impression on people. To this day, I can get editorials that Max Jennings wrote, and I just want to get a boat, charter, go down to the Caribbean, find where they dumped his body, bring him up, smack him upside the head. Because he used to write the horriblest things about me.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:48

Oh yeah. Oh yeah. What?

SPEAKER_05 1:21:53

Yeah, Max, Max and I, we went around and around. But you know what? I miss him so much. Because it's hard to be a newspaper without without an editorial page. And that's the one thing a good journalist can do is you remember them.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:10

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:10

So you know, you don't remember the bad ones, you remember the good ones.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:14

Dan, ask your son to come over to our house and hook our DVD back up. So because I don't know how.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:22

Eddie, we got a job for you.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:24

Nina, you got a job.

SPEAKER_11 1:22:32

He is like I can try. We'll figure it out. We'll get somebody to do it. And I think you'll I think you'll enjoy that.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:40

I think you'll enjoy that. Thank you guys for coming.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:42

Thank you for having us. This has been awesome. Well, thank you for the the the grilled meat. I happen to be a huge fan. Thank you. So a wiener and a hamburger.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:54

They were all very good, Sam. You did a great job.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:57

And a potato salad. And Eddie's joined us.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:59

He's done farming his garlic for the evening.

SPEAKER_08 1:23:02

And Sam, that's the first, you know, I had quit eating red meat for over two years. That's the first burger I've had in more than two years.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:10

So we'll see what happened. He didn't quit because of any ideology. Just he's got a gallbladder thing or something. Oh, I hope you're okay. I'm sorry we didn't know. I love it. I love it. He's gonna live regardless, trust me. Unless he makes me really mad. He lost 50 pounds just from dropping red fried meat and soda.

SPEAKER_08 1:23:38

So sodas really sports writers, you get free sodas in the press box. So I come back. They also get free water. I drink two a night, that's ten right there, and then drink, say, two or three more. I hope that's 14, 15 sodas a uh a week.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:53

That's like 200 tablespoons of sugar, right there.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:56

53 years as a sports writer, that's a lot of sugar.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:01

Do you know what they call diet cokes? What? Fridge cigs. Yeah. Fridge cigs. Like cigarettes. Yeah. Fridge, refrigerated cigarettes.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:10

Do you guys drink soda this much? I don't. Very rarely. I only never sends.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:16

Never drink soda. I only drink uh Coke when I'm hungover. You coke nothing better. I know. The Coke sits in the shore. It's Coke. Coke's in.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:25

Which means she drinks Coke about five minutes.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:29

Well, I wasn't gonna touch that line, but I knew who had to do it.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:33

Okay, so uh dear listeners, uh we're off next week. Uh Nan Whaley is taking the podcast equipment, which she didn't even think about that. Which she owns. Although one of these microphones is supposed to be my birthday.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:49

One's a birthday and one was Christmas.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:51

Okay. Uh she's taking those to California. I certainly hope they don't get confiscated by TSA. Uh so we will not have a podcast that will drop after June 7th. So we will be back on uh Flag Day, June 14th, uh, will which is I think Father's Day. And so we will do Marty. Ernest Borg 9 with Marty. Uh and then Marty gonna be on for Marty.

SPEAKER_12 1:25:19

Marty. Yeah, is Marty coming for Marty?

SPEAKER_05 1:25:22

Well, yeah, he was gonna be here the 7th, but somebody's taken off to uh California. Uh oh. Dea, you can tell the Ann Charles Watts experience that your preparation of the Indian food has been moved to June 21st when we're gonna do uh uh Around the World in 80 Days. And then June 28th will be Bridge Over the River Kwai. And then if you want to come, if you want to come for the misogyny hoot, nanny. July 5th, it's gonna be Gigi.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:54

Oh God. The biggest ridiculous, thank heaven for little girls. It's like a pedophilia march that shows.

SPEAKER_12 1:26:01

There's a chance I won't be here. It's my dad's 75th birthday. But I'll I'll leave my comments.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:08

Well, bring him along. He'd like it. He's from that era. What's that?

SPEAKER_03 1:26:12

What am I scratching? That's that's we scratch every week, and it's on the waterfront, so that's the picture of on the waterfront.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:18

Oh, okay. That had a weird end. Is that the picture of the warehouse? Yeah, I think it's the warehouse. I it was an odd, real kind of uh uh odd representation.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:29

I thought it was like so with that, dear listeners, I will say I will say Godspeed and fair winds until we meet again. Thanks for coming, everybody.