From Here to Wroe Avenue

Tonight on Dinner with Dan, the gang has a Hawaiian Feast made by Kate to celebrate From Here to Eternity. From roasted pork to pineapple upside down cake to spam as an appetizer--we never seem to let a theme go to waste on Sunday evening.  

Poor Dan has to defend the movie again under some scrutiny from his dinner guests. But all enjoyed discussing 1953's Best Picture From Here to Eternity. We hope you will join us.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:27

Okay. Uh like to welcome all our loyal listeners to this, the 35th episode. 35th episode of Dinner with Dan.

SPEAKER_05 0:37

Oh, backside 30.

SPEAKER_00 0:39

Yeah, I am Dan Garrett, your host. We are taping on Sunday, May 24th, 2026, from historic Five Oaks neighborhood in Dayton, Ohio. It's been uh raining a lot, and uh in fact, the past seven days has set a record for the most rainfall for a week in May in Dayton of 6.6 inches of rain.

SPEAKER_01 1:04

Really?

SPEAKER_00 1:05

Now, you know, there was more rain in March of 1913. Right. But for seven for seven days in May, which is the name, the title of a great political thriller book, Seven Days in May. Yeah, which I think was written by a Daytonian, to be honest with you. Uh yeah, so it's set for uh the last seven days has set uh the most rainfall for a week in May in Dayton of 6.6 inches of rain. And then it started raining again today. So at the table tonight, we have table regulars Nan Whaley, Sam Braun, Dia, Paul Duncan Robinson, and Kate Evans. My son Eddie has been excused to attend the birthday party of his lifelong friend Zach Roget, whose parents have been guests at the table and will join us again in several weeks. Yep. Uh this week we will discuss the 1953 Best Picture, From Here to Eternity, which is, as we know, uh filmed in Hawaii, based in Hawaii. So for tonight's dinner, we're keeping with the theme of the movie, so we're having Italian. Anne has an opportunity to redeem herself with the lasagna.

SPEAKER_02 2:22

I'm gonna make a great lasagna wine now. Tell us about the lasagna.

SPEAKER_00 2:26

It is tell us about the lasagna you made tonight.

SPEAKER_02 2:29

I did not cook tonight. All I made was a strawberry avocado salad with pecans. Kate was the big cooker tonight. So Kate.

SPEAKER_00 2:37

Okay, so we're doing a Hawaiian aluhao.

SPEAKER_04 2:40

Yeah, basically. I made Kahlua pork. Which is delicious. Traditionally, it is like the kind of where they put the pork underground and like cook it underground. So I cooked it overnight in a low oven, like wrapped up in a bunch of foils. Which the underground.

SPEAKER_02 3:01

What's low oven? What's like 200? So you started cooking this last night? Oh my god, girl.

SPEAKER_04 3:11

And so there was yeah, there's that, there's pineapple rice, there's halpio with some like pineapple and mango.

SPEAKER_02 3:19

Explain what halpio is.

SPEAKER_04 3:21

It's a coconut like pudding that is like dessert slash palette cleanser at the end of the meal. And then I made a pineapple upside-down cake from my grandma's recipe.

SPEAKER_02 3:33

So amazing.

SPEAKER_04 3:35

Yeah. But you know, it's also yummy. Is it yummy? Okay, good. Did that turn out okay? Oh and yeah, for Dia, I made it.

SPEAKER_00 3:44

I think I've got some.

SPEAKER_04 3:46

Oh, good. Yeah. For Dia, I made a um, it's a beyond meat um vegetarian, like teriyaki kind of pineapple chicken with some bok choy stir-fried in top.

SPEAKER_02 3:58

Oh nice. We had the first, I had my first impossible burger this week.

SPEAKER_04 4:02

What'd you think? Oh good. Yeah? Not too bad. Yeah, they're pretty good.

SPEAKER_00 4:07

Well, and for appetizer, I have made uh cubed spam skewers with uh maraschino cherries and pineapple slices. And for Dia, uh it's just the uh pineapple slices and the maraschino cherries. Uh for those of you who may not know, spam is a major, major uh food item in Hawaii. Uh started during World War II and has continued to this very day. In fact, uh Hawaii's become so expensive for people to live there that a number of native Hawaiians have had to move to the mainland and they've congregated in uh in uh Las Vegas, where there's a lot of you know tourist industry. Uh and uh so Las Vegas is uh the grocery stores in Las Vegas have become some of the biggest sellers of spam. And for those of you who don't know what spam is, it's a delightful food. It is short for spiced ham. I think it was created in 1937. It was a staple of the soldiers in World War II as well as uh post-World War II feeding of hungry people in Europe and in Asia. So we have uh uh appetizers of spam tonight as well.

SPEAKER_01 5:34

Living large.

SPEAKER_00 5:35

And Sam made.

SPEAKER_04 5:37

Oh yeah. Oh, my thighs. Delicious.

SPEAKER_05 5:41

Yeah, my thighs got all the ingredients dark rum, light rum, orange juice, pineapple juice, orjeat syrup, orange curacao, a dash of grenadine, and I added some Luxardo cherries.

SPEAKER_00 5:56

No wonder Dia's rocking back and forth down there. I thought the drinking age in India was 17.

SPEAKER_05 6:06

It's not she is 17.

SPEAKER_00 6:09

Yeah, that's what the drinking age in India is 17. Yeah, yeah. So, anyhow, we have a unbelievable Hawaiian meal tonight. Oh wow, Kate. Uh, I should have tried to find my Don Ho CDs, and we could be uh eating two tiny bubbles. But that I could not do. So, anyhow, uh let us take it around. It's been two weeks since we've had a broad uh since we've had a podcast, and so we've got uh two weeks worth of uh filling in to do. So I'm gonna start with Nan Whaley.

SPEAKER_02 6:41

Well, I think the big thing that Sam and I have done since we were gone, we did two things. Bell let Dia talk about the second thing. Um the first thing we did was we went to New York City last weekend uh with my brother and his wife, uh David and Emily, and my cousins Lily and Elliot. And we saw um Maya Rudolph play Mary Todd Lincoln in O'Mary.

SPEAKER_05 7:07

Hilarious.

SPEAKER_02 7:09

Hilarious, completely irreverent. Do you know the story? So basic, do you know the story, Paul? Kate's already heard it from Book Club.

SPEAKER_06 7:18

No, I mean, I don't know the plot. I mean, I know about Mary Todd Lincoln.

SPEAKER_02 7:21

So in this is not gonna be factual at all. So in the show, Mary Todd Lincoln is a former cabaret singer who is also a drunk. And Abraham is trying to manage her drunkenness. Um, and just to manage her in general because he's gay. And he's having many affairs with union soldiers, and he hires one and an out-of-work actor. Yes, he hires one out of out-of-work actor in John Wilkes Booth to because he's trying to get Mary off cabaret and into something more suitable acting, and John Wilkes Booth uh is her acting coach. She's terrible, she's terrible at it, and that's hilarious. And then he and then Mary Todd Lincoln falls in love with John Wilkes Booth, and then she goes to the saloon to realize that that's where Abraham and John Wilkes Booth are meeting, and she overhears their affair, which she says after they leave. Gotta be honest, that's not great. And the end of the show at Ford Theater, she shoots Abraham Lincoln, and John Wilkes Booth runs out. But the lines are just crazy. Like, she's like, I'm sorry, I'm a cunt. Like it's just like crazy comments through the whole thing. Maya Todd Maya Rudolph like breaks almost breaks character one time. It was hilarious.

SPEAKER_05 8:58

She cracked herself up, which is funny. She was really into it. She was so good.

SPEAKER_02 9:04

She was so good. So we saw that. We saw this musical name Operation Mincemeat, which is based on um oh Samuel say what is based on.

SPEAKER_05 9:15

I mean, it's a true story. Uh I've read the book. This operation really did happen. Um, it was it was a British intelligence operation to trick the Germans to think that the Allied invasion of Italy was going to go to Sardinia instead of Sicily. And so they cooked up this plot where they found a dead body, gave him all the papers, dressed him up like a soldier, dropped him off in the ocean outside of Spain, where he would wash up into the Spanish shore with a briefcase that had detailed plans for an invasion of Sardinia. And it all happened this way. Um the briefcase made its way to Germany because Spain, which was officially neutral, was actually really pro-they were fascist, they were pro-Germany. And the Germans, whether it was from this or other reasons, moved troops out of Sicily and into Sardinia. Um heck of a story. It happened. They made a musical and they made a musical, which is funny. It was a musical.

SPEAKER_03 10:29

Yeah. Yeah. It was a musical.

SPEAKER_00 10:32

I read the book years ago. The book's called The Man Who Never Was.

SPEAKER_02 10:36

Um, it was it was so good. The music was great on it. Um, five people. Like they looked like they were 15 people. It was amazing, amazingly done. So fun. And then we saw Bruce Springsteen at Madison Square Garden. And this tour that he's doing, this protest tour, is well, Sam, what is it? What'd you say it was? A religious experience. Yes. Sam the atheist says it's a religious experience. It was so good. The man is 76 years old. He plays for three hours. He does not stop. He does not stop. No breaks. The band gets a 10-minute break, but the boss keeps on going. Um he played, um, he starts the starts the show with like this monologue about, you know, choosing justice over oppression, you know, truth over falsehood, um, love over war. Peace over peace over war. And as soon as he says war, he breaks into war. What is it good for? And it's like chilling, like it's such chills. And then he played Born in the USA after that. He also played Youngest Town. Um, and since he was at Madison Square Gardens, he played 41 Shots.

SPEAKER_05 11:59

Murder Incorporated. Murder Incorporated. He doesn't play it.

SPEAKER_02 12:03

Yeah, so it was so good. And then he had this guy from Rage Against the Machine, Tom Farello.

SPEAKER_04 12:08

The guitarist.

SPEAKER_02 12:10

He was great, Morello.

SPEAKER_04 12:11

He he's been doing a lot of shows with him.

SPEAKER_02 12:14

And they did the ball, is it the ballad of Tom Jone or the ghost of Tom Jod?

SPEAKER_05 12:17

Morello played about half the songs, but yeah, it was the ghost of Tom Jode. It was really good. And they had like a guitar off him and Bruce that was really amazing. Those guys are that was an amazing experience.

SPEAKER_02 12:30

And then we ate really well. We went to a Jose Andreas on the top of the Ritz Carlton for high tea. It was unreal. And then we shopped. And then Sam and I, they left, and then Sam and I went to the Met and we saw the Raphael exhibit that's there right now, which was very good. So that's like the biggest thing that's happened since we were gone when we missed last week. It was a great, great trip. Now this weekend you caught us just back. Uh Sam, do you have anything you want to add to the week?

SPEAKER_05 13:04

I think you didn't cover the high point.

SPEAKER_02 13:06

Yeah, we wanted to where we went this week. We wanted Dea to talk about it this weekend.

SPEAKER_05 13:10

Okay. Yes. So where'd we go?

SPEAKER_03 13:13

Oh, we went to Hawking Hills. And it was great. Um, we stayed at a cabin, which was very cool. It was duck themed. Um everywhere. And it had like a screen porch where we ate, which was yeah, that was great. And it had a hot tub. And how many miles do we hike? Like almost ten miles. Yep, on one day, so that was cool. I like the Devil's Bathtub. Um, and the Theater Falls and Ashcave. Those were all very fun. Yeah, I had a really good time.

SPEAKER_02 13:49

And what animals did you see?

SPEAKER_03 13:51

Um baby chipmunk? Wild turkey.

SPEAKER_04 13:57

Oh, yeah. Wild turkey.

SPEAKER_05 13:59

Those aren't easy to spot.

SPEAKER_03 14:02

Yeah, Sam. I wanted to chase it, but Sam said no.

SPEAKER_07 14:05

Um that was that was smart.

SPEAKER_03 14:08

And a baby deer and a like a mama deer. Oh. And uh woodpecker. Oh nice. Yeah, and just lots of birds. And a water snake. Yeah, that was very cool. The waterfalls were very active because of all the rain. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 14:27

Did you manage to stay dry or did you have a few?

SPEAKER_03 14:29

Oh yeah, it was planned very like it was just perfect. I think Sam planned it very nicely. So we avoided the heavy rain. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:41

Where in Hawking Hills were you guys actually?

SPEAKER_05 14:44

I mean, where we stayed is kind of in the middle of nowhere. I guess it's a few minutes outside of South Bloomingville, which is, you know. There are just like 10 houses there. Give me a county. Oh, Hawking. Oh, Hawking. Hawking County, okay.

SPEAKER_00 14:59

Hawking County. I mean, because you know they call that Hawking Hills over there for a number of counties.

SPEAKER_05 15:04

Yeah. We were Hawking. We were yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:07

Yeah, it's just very pretty. And I had a good time hiking. It was a lot of fun. And Louie? And Louie was there. Oh, Louis got to go. He's a really good hiker. Yeah, he kept up the whole time.

SPEAKER_05 15:18

He loves to walk, but he was very upset because at the end of the day he had to have a bath. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, he was very money.

SPEAKER_03 15:26

It was so funny.

SPEAKER_04 15:28

I had all this fun. And now I have to do this.

SPEAKER_07 15:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:33

Very upset. It was a lot of fun. I was cracking up.

SPEAKER_02 15:38

Also, Dia was the what was the what last week was? This last week.

SPEAKER_03 15:42

Oh, it was last week of school. Yeah, congrats. Yep, no more school. I don't have to wake up early anymore. It's just great. It's kind of fun.

SPEAKER_00 15:55

And didn't you go to Cedar Point, or that's coming up?

SPEAKER_03 15:59

That's coming up.

SPEAKER_00 16:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 16:00

When do you go to Cedar Point? I don't remember. But it's not, it's next month.

SPEAKER_07 16:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 16:07

Um, yeah, and Paul and I are matching today. We have our vlog party shirts on. So does Sam. Different edition. Yeah. And I just want to say that the food's just awesome. I love it. You like it? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 16:21

Good. I was really nervous about the vegetarian pork one. It's just awesome.

SPEAKER_00 16:25

That's really good. The pork tastes like pork from a pig roast.

SPEAKER_04 16:31

Yeah. That was that was. I mean, it really does. It tastes like pork from a pig roast.

SPEAKER_00 16:36

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_04 16:37

I'm impressed with how it came out. They like I followed a recipe pretty closely. I made a few little modifications. But I it's like they tell you to use liquid smoke and salt, and that's literally all you use. And then you just wrap it up in foil. But I found this smoked salt that I used, and I think it really enhanced the flavor.

SPEAKER_00 17:00

So it's really good.

SPEAKER_04 17:04

I know. I was like, oh, I can't believe you can do that in the oven.

SPEAKER_02 17:08

And the rice is very good in pineapple.

SPEAKER_04 17:11

It is, yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_02 17:13

Okay, that's what happened over at um 217 this past couple weeks, Danny.

SPEAKER_00 17:18

Duncan?

SPEAKER_06 17:20

Uh well, in reverse chronological order. Um yesterday uh Cheryl and I went to our niece's daughter's grandniece's one-year-old birthday party. Um that was fun, even though she's won, but um got a got a cupcake out of it. Um Friday night, Cheryl and I went to this uh uh place in Springboro Latin Arepas, which kind of has a tiki theme, so I thought it'd be the end, not because of today's movie, but you know, your interest in Tiki in general. Um and they had a ukulele player, so um she was building out some cover tunes, so that was uh that was good. And then uh last weekend, I uh went to trail days uh in Damascus, Virginia. Um which uh, you know, Southbound coming, Southbound pole, southbound. So I met a I met a guy once uh yeah, I met a guy there, uh trail name is Muse, and uh he had hiked southbound last year, and earlier this month I read his online trail journal, and um I actually met him um by chance on Friday morning, and I you know he was like, Yeah, I hiked southbound and I did this and I finished up in December. I'm like, wait a minute, I read a trail journal of a guy who finished up in December. Thank you. And I realized really good.

SPEAKER_00 18:34

The food is awesome, Eddie.

SPEAKER_06 18:36

I didn't realize it was the same guy, so I I told him I have a friend of mine who's like really after me to go southbound. Um but he did it in uh almost 197 days. He finished up mid-December, which is not what I wanted to do. Yeah, because there was like snow on the ground, I mean like a little snow on the ground and mountain Georgia. But uh it was pretty cool. I got um actually met a number of hikers that I had uh uh hiked around last year, hiked with and around last year, so it had that reunion aspect. Um, so that was pretty cool. I I wouldn't say I met everybody that I you know re-re-connected with everybody, but almost most people that finished, um, including some people I had not seen since last May. So it was it was pretty cool. And I got new tips for my trekking polls because all the gear manufacturers are there, and uh yeah, it was pretty cool.

SPEAKER_00 19:27

Did you wear your uh Duncan hat?

SPEAKER_06 19:29

I wore the Duncan hat. I have I have to wear the Duncan hat because no one is gonna remember me. In fact, I ran into a guy that I only met twice last year, and he's like, and I could not remember his name because I only met him twice in passing, and he goes, Well, I gotta be honest, I only recognize you because of your hat. I'm like, that's fair. I have to wear the hat. And and I ran into a guy who also had the same hat who had hiked in 2016. So I got a picture with him because we're the only two people that have that hat.

SPEAKER_04 19:59

That have ever hiked the hat. The same hat?

SPEAKER_06 20:02

Exact same hat. Yeah. Yeah, we both agreed.

SPEAKER_00 20:04

From 10 years ago, wow.

SPEAKER_06 20:06

Yeah, yeah, he was there with some other people that I knew. Um a guy who had hiked, I think he did it three times, including last year, but I think his first time was 2016. That's how he knew this other guy. So yeah, it was like, like I said, like it was pretty chill. I mean, little mini reunion there, and uh, there was a parade, and uh one of the uh traditions of the parade is that uh the townspeople, particularly the kids, will uh try to spray you with water, and you get distressingly like at point blank range with her super soakers. Um, and then one adult woman like had a bucket of water, and she was like looking for someone to like douse. And the weather was good, but man, I didn't want to be literally soaked. But it was good, it was a good time.

SPEAKER_00 20:45

So, Paul. So Dan Southbound calling you?

SPEAKER_06 20:50

Not yet, Dan. Not yet. But I did take a picture with a block party t-shirt with a banner for uh Appalachian Day or Trail Day, so 2026. There you go. I got that for the block party poster.

SPEAKER_00 21:02

So just so I understand, you're not saying never. You're not saying never. Not saying never. You're saying doubtful, but you're not saying never.

SPEAKER_06 21:13

Correct, yeah, correct.

SPEAKER_00 21:15

Okay. Yeah. Cheryl, I'm gonna talk to you about getting him out of the house again.

SPEAKER_06 21:20

I don't like the idea. I don't like the idea of finishing up when it's snowing or snow on the ground in uh in Georgia, but that's whatever.

SPEAKER_01 21:29

Do you want some more pork?

SPEAKER_00 21:31

I'm good right now. Catherine Ann?

SPEAKER_04 21:36

Um I should have thought about this while everybody else was talking more. Um, I think it's pretty run of the mill for me. Lots of work. It's been very busy at work lately. And so just lots of work, lots of later nights. Um I walked in a parade, which is also somewhat work-related. Last week. Which break the Oakwood one. And you know, Dan talked about how much it's been raining here, and it rained during that parade a week ago.

SPEAKER_00 22:09

So does it go down Far Hills?

SPEAKER_04 22:12

No, they actually they're really smart about it. They go on Schaefer. Oh, Schaefer, yeah. So it's parallel to Far Hills made on the road down the main road. Which is kind of I think that's a really good idea. So did that. Um, did a little bit of shopping yesterday, finally got my yard mode. I think Sam and Marty were starting to worry about me on my yard.

SPEAKER_02 22:34

Let us discuss the reverse Green Gables house next door to Marty.

SPEAKER_04 22:40

That is big news on the block this week. We watched the formerly vacant house that's been fixed up next door to Marty getting a total makeover. It's the reverse of Sam and Sam and I think the whole house is dark green and it has white trim.

SPEAKER_01 22:58

It looks great.

SPEAKER_04 22:59

Oh, it looks so much better. It was a real wreck. And my understanding is that it is going to market soon to be sold, not a rental. Interesting. So that's great. You know, those of you listeners who listen to our podcast and think that it'd be cool to live with these people. There's a house. There's gonna be a house soon.

SPEAKER_02 23:18

You could be living next door to Martier across from Nan and Sam and Kate.

SPEAKER_04 23:23

You too could be part of our cult.

SPEAKER_02 23:26

What'd you think of it, Eddie? What'd you think of the food?

SPEAKER_04 23:29

It was good. I gotta get ready. Wow, he ate really fast.

SPEAKER_02 23:32

I think you liked it.

SPEAKER_01 23:34

Gotta go hang out with Zachy Poo.

SPEAKER_04 23:37

Have fun.

SPEAKER_02 23:39

Um, yeah, that's the big news, I think, on the blog.

SPEAKER_00 23:42

Oh, that's great news on the block. You know, because there were squatters in that house.

SPEAKER_04 23:47

Oh, it would it had a really bad period of time there where I think we were all ready to go.

SPEAKER_00 23:54

They were dumping trash in the garage. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:57

So great. Yay. Congrats, Marty and Julie. Nice, nice thing.

SPEAKER_04 24:01

Really, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:02

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 24:04

What'd you do, Danny?

SPEAKER_00 24:06

Uh well, uh, you know, when you get old, you can't remember things. And uh so I'm not sure what I did two weeks ago. But uh this week I started off uh Monday with uh the elevator, Virginia's Revenge, not going all the way down for me. Uh-oh. Twice. So I had to call Marty, uh, who came down. Fortunately, it went back up for me, but it wanted it only would go halfway down.

SPEAKER_01 24:41

What was the deal?

SPEAKER_00 24:43

It's all a mystery to me. Marty was able to come down, and of course, it worked for Marty. So, you know, as we all know in Native American uh lore, coyote is a trickster. And I'm thinking Virginia is my trickster now.

SPEAKER_06 25:03

I mean, it really is giving credence to the uh revenge part of it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:08

It worked for Marty, and it worked for me. But since then, knock on some real wood, it's been working fine.

SPEAKER_04 25:15

So Louie, no, nobody's a I keep forgetting. I know. Uh so protecting the house.

SPEAKER_00 25:25

I got down and I went to uh my retired judge's luncheon at MCL Cafeteria, which was fine, had a good time doing that. Uh and then Wednesday we had the uh Gareth family dinner. Uh and this week, uh, because Marty was just getting back from somewhere. Okay. Uh it was his turn to make food. So I ordered pizza from Pizza Factory, which is another official uh pizza place of uh uh dinner with Dan. Best pizza in Dayton, Ohio on Wayne Avenue. Pizza Factory's the best. Got a bunch of Pizza Factory pizza. So we had a pizza party, and the big news was after they we ate the pizza, the uh boys went across the street, Daddy's house, and brought back uh Bill Platt's desk, which is now in the living room to where I can sit there and do things and look out on what's going on up and down row. Uh one of the drawers had not been uh open since nine that since 2017. So that was a true 2017 uh time capsule. I mean, there were bills from 2017, there were magazines from 2017, articles from 2017, medical receipts from 2017.

SPEAKER_02 26:50

And what'd you do with all of these things?

SPEAKER_00 26:52

Well, most of them has made it to the recycling bin.

SPEAKER_02 26:55

Oh, good. Yeah, all done.

SPEAKER_00 26:57

So I've still got a way to go in there, you know, because that's a big desk. But eventually I hope to move the mess that is on the table back here out to there, and then I can sit there during the summer and work on things and look out, seeing who's going up and down Row Avenue.

SPEAKER_02 27:15

I like that.

SPEAKER_00 27:16

So that got done on Wednesday, and then uh Thursday, I can't remember. Uh Friday, the boys and I went to see uh The Mandalorian and Grogu. Star Wars movie.

SPEAKER_04 27:30

I wondered if you would.

SPEAKER_00 27:31

It was a great movie. I encourage everybody to go see it. It's the first Star Wars movie theatrical release in six or seven years. They put out a lot of content, but it's all been on Disney Plus streaming. This was the first theatrical release movie. It is really good. And uh I bought the $39 uh thing of Grogu uh popcorn.

SPEAKER_07 27:56

Nice.

SPEAKER_00 27:56

They're selling merch, let me tell you. You walk in there, there's a lot of merch.

SPEAKER_04 28:00

You're the target audience.

SPEAKER_06 28:01

Is it a special container?

SPEAKER_00 28:02

Is that why it's oh yeah, special container. Oh yeah, it's a special container.

SPEAKER_06 28:06

So you got a baby Yoda special container?

SPEAKER_00 28:08

Yeah, Grogu. Grogu. Yep. Uh his back opens up and you can put the popcorn in there. But you know, you get that, and then you get the big thing of popcorn. So that was really fun. And then after then I had two uh uh uh brunches at Legacy, and I'm wearing proudly wearing my limited edition uh 250th anniversary of America Legacy uh t-shirt with stuff on the side, on the sides and on the back. It's red, white, and blue for the 250th anniversary. Another official sponsor of Dinner with Dan. Uh fine place to go and eat. Uh they'll be open tomorrow on Memorial Day, but they're closed Tuesdays. So, anyhow, uh, and then uh from a standpoint of what else I've been doing, I've been watching a lot of TV. Uh Eddie and I finally finished Breaking Bad. Thank God. We did all five seasons of Breaking Bad. I watched What did you think? Oh, I really liked it. You liked it all the way through. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 29:15

Have you watched it? No. I haven't been able to bring myself to do it. I I watched like the first two episodes. I just was like really.

SPEAKER_02 29:24

I think I even got to like six or seven. I spent six or seven hours, but there's nobody to root for. Yeah. But you what? There's nobody to root for. Six or seven hours.

SPEAKER_04 29:33

I know.

SPEAKER_02 29:34

Root for like the the the the he's like the extreme anti-hero, and so it's just like I can't do it. It's like shit's creek for me. My mother loves shit's creek, and I'm like, I didn't who do you root for?

SPEAKER_00 29:46

Well, I was rooting for Jesse Pinkman.

SPEAKER_04 29:49

You you yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:50

Even though he was a cooking, I mean, you know, he was just a likable stoner that just got couldn't ever break out of the system, out of the cycle. But anyhow, Eddie and I finished watching that.

SPEAKER_02 30:02

Good for you. We're in season five of um Parks and Wreck.

SPEAKER_00 30:06

Okay. Parks and Wreck is good.

SPEAKER_02 30:08

Yes, lots of people to root for.

SPEAKER_00 30:09

I finished watching uh I watched the last episode, I believe, maybe of all time of Call the Midwife. Although they're talking about doing a movie. I texted you that.

SPEAKER_04 30:22

Yeah, they just can't let it go. Yeah, I texted you that.

SPEAKER_02 30:25

Maybe I'll start that one because it's like 20 years, isn't it?

SPEAKER_04 30:27

Oh my god, it's insane. There's there are lots of seasons. The movie would be their period close. I think it's like 15. It starts out in the 50s and ends in like 1970. 72. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:41

Uh the movie would be a prequel. It would be set during World War II.

SPEAKER_04 30:46

Oh, see, that would be really good. Yeah. Because you would see Melma's young young men. And they see it a lot in those early seasons. It's like they're in the bond, you know, they're going into like buildings that are damage still. And like so, yeah, and like they talk about it and what they were doing then. So that would I that would be great.

SPEAKER_02 31:07

I saw I watched on PBS The Four Sights because they were in period close. Did you watch it?

SPEAKER_04 31:12

No. But I I've got I it's on my radar.

SPEAKER_02 31:16

It's like less um soft porny than Bridgerton. Yeah, but still kind of got PBS. It's PBS, but they still take their shirts off. Oh, there you go. The men do.

unknown 31:25

Nice.

SPEAKER_00 31:26

Well, anyhow, I cried like a baby.

SPEAKER_02 31:28

At the end, I bet you did. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:30

Yeah, because you know it was something that I watched with Virginia religiously. Uh but it was really good. I liked how it ended. I thought it was a great ending.

SPEAKER_04 31:37

Um, I only watched it because of Virginia.

SPEAKER_00 31:40

Then uh I finished watching uh the season the series the season end of Ghost, which I really love. That was a show Virginia and I watched. Great show. And Elsbeth, which Virginia and I watched together, really love that show. Elsbeth, she's a wacky uh lawyer who's assigned to a New York City uh precinct on a consent decree to keep them from violating people's civil rights. Oh it's a it's a murder mystery. It's hilarious. It is really funny. You would like it. I mean, it's just wacky. And every week uh you know who did the murder, so they solve it backwards.

SPEAKER_02 32:19

Oh, cool.

SPEAKER_00 32:20

Uh and we'll need little plates for the it is funny, it's very topical. Um and each week it's a new celebrity murderer.

SPEAKER_02 32:30

Uh what should we do?

SPEAKER_00 32:31

Oh, Nathan Lane's been a murderer.

SPEAKER_02 32:33

Where's the streaming?

SPEAKER_00 32:34

Huh? It's on CBS.

SPEAKER_02 32:36

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 32:37

Also the uh the uh company that killed Colbert, which I watched the last Colbert.

SPEAKER_05 32:43

I haven't watched it yet. By the way, fuck CBS. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 32:50

I'm not gonna charge him for that. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 32:54

So I do not only Colbert, but the news division. They're gonna they're gonna ruin 60 minutes. It is so I do not want to avoid CBS as much as I can.

SPEAKER_02 33:06

Oh, Elspeth. She's the that's what I thought. She's the woman that was in um that Chris Noth and um Julia Margallese and The Good Wife. Yeah, she was in The Good Wife, and it's a spin-off of The Good Wife. She's the quirky Elspeth, yeah. Okay, from The Good Wife. Yeah, okay. That's what I thought it was.

SPEAKER_00 33:25

So, anyhow, and I started uh trying to clear out some uh text messages and stuff on my trusty flip phone. Yes, and look what I found from October 12th, 2021.

SPEAKER_02 33:36

Oh my goodness. Oh, there's Virginia in front of the late show with Stephen Colbert. Here, take I'm gonna take a photo of her.

SPEAKER_05 33:48

Last year when we were there, we walked by it.

SPEAKER_02 33:50

Yeah. We walked by it, we walked by today. Last week, yeah. I don't remember. It was right by um when where NYU was graduating.

unknown 33:59

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 33:59

And so now the two new ones that I'm watching that will get me through the summer is I Love Deadliest Catch. Oh one of the best reality shows ever. Oh, the show's great. The show is great.

SPEAKER_02 34:13

I don't watch reality.

SPEAKER_00 34:15

Do you like crab? Watch deadliest catch and you like crab. You will realize why crab costs so much money. It remains the deadliest job in America.

SPEAKER_05 34:25

It's it's a great statistically per person.

SPEAKER_00 34:29

Oh yeah. Per, yeah. Those ships go down, they fall over and die of hypothermia.

SPEAKER_05 34:35

But you know, it's because the there's always bad weather up there.

SPEAKER_00 34:39

Oh yeah, they're in the Bering Sea, and you know, it gets so much ice on the boats, they're out there with sledgehammers knocking the ice off so the boat don't tip over and sink. And you know, Coast Guard can only get you so many places. It's and they bring these pots up, and they're like they're doing king crab now. Yeah for each one of these pots is worth like $50 to $75,000 to $100,000. It's unbelievable. Full of crab. Yeah, I love it. And then the other thing Eddie and I are catching up on is Jen V, which is the uh college version of The Boys, which is this unbelievable sci-fi show. Hey, Eddie, what's The Boys on? Is that that's on uh Amazon. On Amazon. I hate Bezos, but I'm glad that he paid for the boys. It's the boys last season, but Gen V, you gotta watch in between Gen V to watch it. It's unbelievable. It's satire on satire on satire. It's very contemporary. Uh there's no way that uh certain people in this country would like this show. But anyhow, so that's what we're watching.

SPEAKER_02 35:51

But talk about Colbert, though. I want to hear about it. Colbert's last show. What was it like?

SPEAKER_00 35:56

Well, I don't want to ruin it for you.

SPEAKER_02 35:57

No, but talk about it. I'm gonna watch it anyway.

SPEAKER_00 35:59

You have it taped?

unknown 36:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:00

Oh, we can find it online.

SPEAKER_00 36:02

I've got the last two uh Well, tell me what it was like.

SPEAKER_02 36:05

Talk about it.

SPEAKER_00 36:06

Well, uh it was the whole week was awesome.

SPEAKER_02 36:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:09

Uh he did the uh uh, you know, he has that uh Colbert questionnaire.

SPEAKER_07 36:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:15

And so he had a big list of celebrities that would come in and ask him one question from the Colbert uh questionnaire, and that was just hysterical. And they condensed it to like uh maybe 20 minutes of the show, but then he came on the next day and said, Well, it actually went 58 minutes. And I mean, it was like Audrey Plaza, uh uh Jeff Daniels, oh cool, uh you know, every every kind of movie star you can think of, yeah. And then the last episode, everybody was wondering who his last guest was.

SPEAKER_02 36:51

Because he was saying it was going to be the Pope.

SPEAKER_00 36:53

Yeah, well, they they they had a thing with the Pope who wouldn't come out of the green room because uh Colbert had not got him Chicago hot dogs. Which, you know, as we all know in Chicago, there's a certain kind of thing that's the Chicago hot dog. And he kept throwing them out of this is not Chicago hot dogs. Uh it was Sir Paul McCarthy.

SPEAKER_02 37:17

Oh, one of the Beatles.

SPEAKER_00 37:19

Uh which was really neat because you know, uh he had played the Ed Sullivan Theater in 1964.

SPEAKER_05 37:27

One of the first American shows, right?

SPEAKER_00 37:30

It was the first that played Ed Sullivan, yeah. So it was a lot of reminiscence there and stuff. And then uh, you know, they they uh played the last thing you saw him doing was playing uh I Say Hello, You Say Goodbye. Hello, goodbye. Yeah. So it was uh Colbert was singing, uh John Bastiste was there. Yeah, uh his current guy, Louis Cato, was there, and Elvis Costello.

SPEAKER_02 37:56

Oh, cool.

SPEAKER_00 37:57

Plus Paul McCarthy and Colbert singing. I mean, how can you beat that? You're you're singing with one of the last alive Beatles on the Ed Sullivan station. I mean I don't know how you beat that.

SPEAKER_02 38:10

Ed Sullivan's theater, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:12

And so then it ends really uh cleverly with they're in the back and uh everything's you know gotta be gone and it's time to turn the lights off, and he lets uh Paul McCarthy throw the switch, turning all the lights off. Yeah, so it's it was pretty clever. Yeah, it was really good.

SPEAKER_02 38:30

Oh, yeah, we're gonna watch it.

SPEAKER_00 38:31

They had a a neat article in the paper today in the Dayton Daily, which I still get, the paper version, and uh about what's gonna happen with the Ed Sullivan theater. And it actually had started uh uh one of the producers' uh uh uh plays started it and it went bankrupt. And then CBS signed a long-term lease in like 1936, and then when Letterman started his show, CBS bought it. Uh, you know, completely bought it. And so, you know, they hope that, you know, they won't it won't get well, they can't tear it down because it's on the National Historical Register, unless somebody in the White House says no, it's not, and they let them tear it down. But uh they hope it gets restored and everything, or that that it continues, maybe goes back to a Broadway theater that it once was. So yeah. I've got the last two weeks, uh, it was really good. I mean, you know, he had uh Tom Hanks was on there, which was really clever. Uh, you know, Hanks collects typewriters, yes, and he and he gave uh Colbert a typewriter. Uh he had Steven Spielberg on, he had Pedro Pascal, who was uh the Mandalorian, who wanted to know why uh only the women got to kiss him. You know, because there was this big thing about the women who had kissed him, you know. Louis Louis Louise Dreyfus, you know, it said Julia Louis Dreyfus, yeah. And then next thing I know, he he's making out with Pedro Pascal. It was pretty funny. He had uh definitely a good last two weeks, you know. Just about everybody that was anybody in the entertainment industry wanted to be there and be a part of it.

SPEAKER_02 40:17

Well, what a great human too, Colbert is.

SPEAKER_00 40:19

And I thought one of the things that was really neat was Jimmy Kimmel the night before said, I don't want anybody watching my show Thursday. Yeah, we're not gonna do a live show Thursday, it's gonna be a rerun. You watch Colbert. And I thought that was pretty cool.

SPEAKER_04 40:34

Fallon followed suit eventually.

SPEAKER_00 40:36

Yeah, I think he did.

SPEAKER_02 40:37

But see, I think Kimmel is just like such a special one, right? Like he kind of does those kind of things and kind of he kind of like is he's a leader of them in that way. Yeah, I think so. You know, of like just being like a good human.

unknown 40:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:52

I'd have to say.

SPEAKER_00 40:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 40:54

Fallon's fine, but Kimmel is yeah, no, I I I agree with that.

SPEAKER_02 40:58

I used to love Fallon when he was at Saturday Night Live, but he's disappointed me a lot as a as a late night host.

SPEAKER_00 41:05

He he's like Jay Lennell.

SPEAKER_02 41:07

Yeah, he sure is just very late.

SPEAKER_00 41:09

And and he's like Johnny Carson. Johnny Carson was like that.

SPEAKER_05 41:12

You know, it was he's right for the tonight show off the that is rapidly.

SPEAKER_02 41:18

It's my tie Hawaiian tonight, buddy.

SPEAKER_05 41:20

Too old. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:21

It's rum, light rum, dark rum, some other alcohols.

SPEAKER_04 41:26

Who'll get you going before your party?

SPEAKER_02 41:28

It's not spiked tea. I guess it could be spike tea.

SPEAKER_00 41:33

So, anyhow, then thanks for sharing about that. Then last night, after I got back from Legacy, I watched the movie for the first time.

SPEAKER_02 41:41

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 41:42

And then today You've never seen it? Oh, no, I'd seen it, but for the first time for the podcast. Got it. I mean, I'd seen it three or four times.

SPEAKER_02 41:49

I had never seen it, so.

SPEAKER_00 41:51

Uh, and then uh went to bed, got up. Uh Eddie got me my uh DoorDashed uh coffee and uh breakfast bagel from Big Bee's. I'm now back to Big Bee's.

SPEAKER_04 42:04

This is your Sunday ritual.

SPEAKER_00 42:06

Sunday ritual. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 42:07

And uh everyone, love everyone.

SPEAKER_02 42:09

Love you too, Eddie.

SPEAKER_00 42:10

Take care, Eddie.

SPEAKER_04 42:11

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 42:12

And uh then I started watching it for the second time with commentary with the Indianapolis 500 on Moot. I forgot about that today. And the Indianapolis 500 was the closest finish ever in Indianapolis 500 history. Wow. Two hundredths of a second difference between the first and second. I mean, it is like it's like that.

SPEAKER_04 42:36

Was it a dry, was it dry there, or did they get some? Oh, they did two.

SPEAKER_00 42:40

Uh they had so many wrecks. Every time I looked up, there was another wreck going on. There was a lot of lot of downtime. But anyhow, so that one is in uh the books.

SPEAKER_02 42:53

So can I just say how soft Louis is since Dean gave him a bath? I did, you did. Dean and I gave him a bath and his little chest is so soft.

SPEAKER_04 43:04

It was amazing how that happened.

SPEAKER_03 43:06

It was really funny.

SPEAKER_04 43:07

He was not happy, was he? Oh no. Did he jump out of the tub?

SPEAKER_03 43:12

He tried to escape the shower.

SPEAKER_02 43:14

We had a shower and there was no tub.

SPEAKER_04 43:17

Well, that's how I have to do RG because I don't have a tub.

SPEAKER_02 43:20

Yeah. I just have a big shower.

SPEAKER_04 43:22

And I actually have this like rubber maid container that I put in the shower and like try to box him in because otherwise he like jumps around.

SPEAKER_02 43:35

What did I do? Anyway, he's very soft right now. Go ahead, Danny.

SPEAKER_00 43:39

Okay. So uh we've got a good wrap up. Uh we've all been doing a lot of interesting things. The food has been magnificent today.

SPEAKER_02 43:48

So good, Katie did.

SPEAKER_00 43:50

And so we're now at our twenty sixth uh Academy Award Best Picture. Uh tonight it's for the best picture of 1953. Um Uh it received 13 nominations and uh it won eight, which tied, which tied gone with the wind. Okay. So for a number of years, it was right up there with the most nominations as well as the most uh wins. And I mean centers just got the most at 16 nominations. So this got 13. So and as for best picture, it was against Julius Caesar. That was terrible. Roman Holiday.

SPEAKER_02 44:33

Oh, Roman Holiday.

SPEAKER_00 44:35

And Shane, which is a classic American Western, great American Western.

SPEAKER_02 44:40

And Roman Holiday, great.

SPEAKER_00 44:42

That's great.

SPEAKER_02 44:42

Vespas made me love Vespas.

SPEAKER_00 44:44

That's because they write a Vespa, which is something you always wanted, but your husband Sam wouldn't let you have it. Correct. So I bought you a little tin Vesta that you can wind up.

SPEAKER_02 44:54

Goes around the house. Thank you, Dan.

SPEAKER_00 44:56

Okay, so uh I uh I'll keep I'll keep on rolling on this. It won uh Best Picture, Best Director for Fred Zinnaman, Zinnaman, uh Best Supporting Actor for Frank Sinatra, Best Supporting Actress for Donna Reed, Best Screenplay for Daniel Teradash, Cinematography Black and White, sound recording and film editing. It was based on an 800-page novel by James uh Jones. And uh the one good thing about my DVD of this, not only did it have the theatrical version, but it also then had uh commentary. So I like Gone with the Wind and like some of these others, I watched it twice with commentary. And that the commentary was by uh the son of the director, who was 13 years old when the movie was made, and one of the bit actors that was in it, so that was very interesting. And they also had on it um the the first trailer that went out for the theaters, and I thought it was very clever. Uh, from the most controversial novel of our time, here is one of those rare motion pictures that can be truly called great to be seen and remembered, not for a day, a month, or a year, but for all eternity. And then it comes up from here to eternity, which I thought was really, really clever. Anyhow, I am going to read the cover and then we will start discussing. Okay, this is on the back of my uh uh DVD. It is in this landmark film, passion and tragedy collide on a military base as a fateful day in December 1941 draws near. Private Pewett, Montgomery Clift, is a soldier and former boxer being manipulated by his superior and peers. His friend Maggio, Frank Sinatra, tries to help him but has his own troubles. Sergeant Warden, Bert Lancaster, and Carol Holmes, Deborah Kerr, tread on dangerous ground as lovers in an illicit affair. Each of their lives will be changed when their stories culminate in a Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. Winner of eight Academy Awards, including Best Picture, Best Director, Best Supporting Actor and Actresses for Satra and Donna Reed in a care and for Satra in a career-defining role, and for Donna Reed as a not so wholesome club hostess. So with that, we can go Nan first or Kate first. Kate, Kate. Oh, you know what?

SPEAKER_02 47:59

Go for it. Um, I had never seen this. I had only seen the iconic um picture of the make out in the ocean, which is very difficult to do. I mean, you get very sandy. It's not super comfortable to make out like that in the ocean, like that.

SPEAKER_00 48:19

Speaking from experience, I won't say.

SPEAKER_02 48:22

I just sand get everywhere.

SPEAKER_00 48:24

Man and sand.

SPEAKER_02 48:24

The sand gets everywhere. It's just really messy. And it kind of reminds me of like when Harry met Sally. She's like, the thing is, we never had sex on the kitchen floor. He said in the kitchen floor, yeah, it's a hard ceramic tile. That shooting of when we're in eternity's ocean scene reminds me of when Harry met Sally's. The thing is, we don't have sex. Because it's completely ridiculous. Um okay, all that to say, Bert Lancaster, very fine. So fine. Very good looking. Oh god, his chest. So nice. Very good looking. Um I thought Frank Sinatra stole every scene in this movie that he was in. He was excellent. He did that thing where he doesn't use contractions, which I really like. Would not, could not, should not, um, which and then reminded me of Guys and Dolls, which he's also in. Um, but I thought he was excellent. I thought he did just a great job. He died great on screen. He just was so good. Yeah. Um, I thought all everybody acted really well in this movie. Uh I didn't really care for this movie though. So my challenge with the movie was the misogyny. I know you're shocked to hear that from the scene. Um, the fact that Deborah Carr can't, like, is a washed-up woman because she can't procreate, I find offensive uh as someone who has chosen not to have children. It doesn't land well. Um and like they just kind of use the women as like these like afterthoughts. And I thought it was interesting as they were like come at the end of the movie, like as it ends with the two women on the boat, and it's still just about their connection to the men, yeah, you know, even in death. And so I just didn't I didn't care for that. I know that was the period of 1953. I think that's why we're still screwed up today, is the baggage we carry um from like that period particularly, and I think I saw it in this movie. I really liked the parts of the movie around um how it was like right before Pearl Harbor, you know it's coming in the morning, you know it's happening. I liked how they did that. I thought it was acted excellently, but I couldn't really get over just the blade misogyny of the show. So also the guy's name's Robert E. Lee Pruitt. I mean, give me a fucking break. It's ridiculous. Okay. There you go. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 50:55

Yeah, so I enjoyed it. I it it entertained me. I thought it was it was really well acted. There's some lines I really liked in it.

SPEAKER_02 51:03

Oh, yeah, there are good lines. Did you write it down?

SPEAKER_05 51:05

Uh a few of them. Uh he my my favorite was early on. He'd strangle on his own spit if I didn't swallow for it.

unknown 51:14

So good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 51:15

So that's the sergeant who is always like doing the basically doing the captain's work for him, and he just signs everything. Yeah. So I I enjoyed that. I enjoyed how they the um Japanese fighters are flying over and they say, Oh, don't those look beautiful in the morning? Not realizing that that's the beginning of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. Um, I I thought the movie is, I thought it was really about power dynamics. I thought that was really like the recurring theme. Like, who who has power and and how it interacts. Spoiler alert, uh, the women are at the bottom.

SPEAKER_04 51:55

Yeah, the women are definitely just like afterthoughts. Like, what can you do for me, right?

SPEAKER_05 52:00

But it's like Yeah, it didn't it didn't spoil the movie for me, but yeah, it was definitely it was definitely there. Um the Robert E. Lee uh name that that almost spoiled it for me. But I didn't didn't like that very much.

SPEAKER_03 52:20

Do you um I thought it was okay. I mean it's definitely not one wouldn't call it like one of the better movies we've seen. The ending was kind of bleak, the way the main character just like went out and got shot again and again and just like gave up on his life like that after all of that. Didn't really enjoy that.

SPEAKER_02 52:43

Um after he thought so hard for his like values, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 52:46

Yeah, it was just eh and just the way women retreated definitely threw me off. And that's like gonna be the reason that makes this movie not as enjoyable. Um it was I I like the way it was shot. It was acted pretty nicely, and the way they went like back and forth with their lives, and their lives sort of like in the end they connect to each other when the women talk. Um, that's when the surgeon's life and the other person's life sort of like um come together. But yeah, I thought it was okay. It's not I would have enjoyed like a little bit more history, maybe, as someone who doesn't know a whole lot about Pearl Harbor, like going into it with almost no knowledge about it, made it like slightly harder for me to understand all the references. So yeah, I would say that.

SPEAKER_06 53:42

Dan, thank you for mentioning that the book was 800 pages, because that explains to me um why I thought the like the plot lines were compressed. Um I didn't particularly like the plots because they just they didn't seem very well developed. There's multiple plots going on, but if you have an 800-page novel, you have an opportunity to like see them you know more developed. Um I thought the acting was good. I mean, Frank Sinatra, I could see why he wanted to support an actor. I know Ernest Bordman's character wasn't likable and he had a narrow role, but I thought he did it really well. The handful of lines that he had, I thought he just delivered them nicely. Um, and you're not supposed to like the character, right? But I thought Ernest Borgman did a good job. Um I honestly was not positive that it was set immediately before Pearl Harbor because Japan invaded China in 1937, and so this could have been any time from like 1937 and 1941. The only reason why the bomb in Pearl Harbor occurred was so that uh the main character Pruitt could be shot later on. I mean, that's the only reason why, because any nothing else about the plot line requires.

SPEAKER_05 54:46

There's no other time.

SPEAKER_04 54:48

It's like peacetime uh army, right?

SPEAKER_05 54:51

Yeah, it really is peacetime army.

SPEAKER_06 54:53

It looks very peacetime.

SPEAKER_02 54:54

That's why I wasn't sure exactly when it was they do have that calendar that sits there that says December 6th. Like, and he's right next to it. I was like calendar.

SPEAKER_06 55:04

There was a newspaper headline that Japs like in press it, you know, he's like taking a phone call, like, and there's the calendar. I didn't see the calendar booming. Yeah. Um but uh and then when the captain like gets he has to resign. Like that really they conducted a seven-month investigation because someone's being abused, which we as a viewers believe. But would the army really have like taken it that seriously? No, I don't know. I thought there was I actually thought there was gonna be boxing somewhere, like actual boxing. Not necessarily that Pruitt like bows down and like decides to box, but I thought that that there was gonna be a little bit more than that.

SPEAKER_02 55:41

I thought Pruitt was gonna box to get Sinatra out of prison. Yeah, something that's what I thought the deal was gonna have.

SPEAKER_05 55:48

Yeah, yeah. His decision making is, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 55:53

So anyway, I I like the acting. I wanted to like the movie, but honestly, I I thought the plot, there were too many plot lines and they were kind of not well developed.

SPEAKER_02 56:01

And do you agree with me about the ocean and the sand? These are the important questions.

SPEAKER_06 56:06

Yeah, actually, I had no idea that that scene was only 30 minutes into the movie. I thought because it's it's the iconic scene. Like, right, I've all seen pictures of it. It's the first time I saw the movie, but I've certainly seen that scene, and I I honestly thought it was like maybe at the end, or you know.

SPEAKER_05 56:20

That's what's important here. This movie misleads us in thinking we can make out is the most crash on us. That is just wrong. It's really hard, people. You get salt in your eyes.

SPEAKER_06 56:33

It doesn't work. Not good marketing for Hawaii, but it wasn't a hike tourist destination then either.

SPEAKER_04 56:38

So that's true. Is it my turn? Um I agree with most of what everybody has said, particularly Sam, the power dynamics. Like, it definitely sets that up from the very beginning, right? Like Pruitt shows up and people already know him, and he's like, no, he like clearly is known to be someone who is very stubborn, and like he shows that throughout the whole movie, and like I think it's like he's taking he feels like he has taken this stand for himself. But like you said, it's like he had he could have made some easier choices that would have helped like not just him, but like other people around him. And like it's like yeah, his character, it you know, you think it's like admirable in the beginning, but then you're like, no, he is making bad decisions.

SPEAKER_05 57:37

Like he's making bad choices. And all the characters without power who have opportunities to when they have leverage to flip the scales, they don't use it. They don't do it.

SPEAKER_02 57:49

Except the women.

SPEAKER_05 57:52

Do they?

SPEAKER_02 57:52

They try hard. The women do get a commission, don't leave. Like they give sound advice.

SPEAKER_05 58:00

It is sound advice, that's true.

SPEAKER_02 58:01

They have no agency and they tell these dummies what not to, and they go, oh no, I'm gonna do the opposite.

SPEAKER_05 58:07

Yeah, that's very true.

SPEAKER_04 58:08

Yeah, that's true. That is very true.

SPEAKER_05 58:10

But you know Well, maybe it's more pro-women than you think. The women are the smart ones.

SPEAKER_04 58:15

Of course they are. We have no agency. We see that now, but like nobody took their advice. Yeah. But the other part of it, too, like speaking of the women, it's the two main character, female characters, are, you know, one is a prostitute, you know, and one is basically has a reputation as a prostitute without as sleeping around and like she makes her husband a couple. Right.

SPEAKER_05 58:46

And like it is doing his own thing. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's just makes it easy.

SPEAKER_04 58:53

It's like the two women characters. And I I'm curious about what the book would be. What the book like, you know, does it flesh those characters out more? Are there more women in the book? Like, you know, with a story that long, you certainly cut people out of it, characters out of it. And you do kind of wonder like what the what that tone is, but you know, it was when was the book written, Dan? When was the book written, Dan? You don't know. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 59:23

So uh 51 or 52.

SPEAKER_04 59:25

Okay, so it's like it's unlikely that it was.

SPEAKER_02 59:28

Oh, so it's pretty early, like just a year or two later. Okay, so they did that a lot back then. It's like fast move on the book.

SPEAKER_04 59:34

But like overall, I mean, I I agree. I mean, I think the acting is really good.

SPEAKER_02 59:38

I think all of the leads, um, and the I mean to be to to to act like you're really enjoying making out in the sand.

SPEAKER_04 59:47

With the sand going everywhere.

SPEAKER_02 59:49

It's hard to do.

SPEAKER_04 59:51

But it's it is. I mean, I think it's well acted for what it is. Um but the material yeah, a little bit it it's well, it's really melodramatic. It's uh, you know, um yeah, I I I don't know. It's not one of my favorites, but it's one I've seen before.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:15

All that all that to be said, a hundred times better than Greatest Show on Earth.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:21

Well, so yeah, I was gonna make that comment that like I do appreciate it felt like there was plotted. Felt like there was plot. I didn't feel like I was watching a documentary. No, I agree. Held my yeah, it was it's entertaining. It was very, it's very soapy. Yeah, I think it's a good thing. Like it's a very soapy. Very soapy movie cast. You know, they're gonna be a little bit more. They're so attractive.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:50

I know. The cast is very hot.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:52

Yeah, there are a number of movies in this time period that were fit that kind of like soapiness, right? Like, and you but like we're getting into like the Peyton places.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:03

I mean, and they are so hot. They are I mean, the whole cast is food.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:08

Easy to watch for sure.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:11

So lovely. I loved watching them.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:13

So anyway, that's what I think.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:15

His chest.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:16

Dan has been staring at me for like 10 minutes.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:19

Tell us why you liked it in disbelief.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:20

Yeah, tell us why it's the best movie ever, Dan.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:23

Well, you know, in contemporary America, a lot of people are thinking it's time to pack the Supreme Court. I'm beginning to think it's time to pack dinner with Dan. So tell us. Once again, I find it one, two, three, four, five versus one.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:42

No, we liked it. What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:45

Nan is the one that didn't like it. I liked it. I just, it's not one of my favorites, and I it's flawed.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:51

It's in the middle of the pack for me.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:53

I did say they're hot.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:55

They are. And they are hot.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:57

Oh boy.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:59

I'm sorry, I don't think every movie we see is the best movie ever.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:03

It's we're looking at the movie. I'm going to rave about next week's movies. No matter what. Don't worry. Well, I've seen it, yeah. So uh on the waterfront. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:14

Other actors that were in this movie that went on to have good careers. We already mentioned Ernest Borgnine, so good. Who in two years gets the Best Academy Award for Best Actor and Best Picture in Martin?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:28

In Marty?

SPEAKER_00 1:02:28

Okay. Uh also uh Claude Atkins, who uh plays one of the sergeants, he went on to a illustrious TV career. Uh Jack Warden, also, who went on to a big TV career. And uh, and I'm pretty sure Superman was on it. George Reed.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:48

Yeah, he was. I'm pretty sure. I think he was the one that pulled over the sergeant in the beginning to talk about the captain's wife. Yeah, right? Yep. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:57

That's George Reed, who was the original TV Superman.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:00

He was a good character.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:02

Huh? He was a good character. Oh yeah, yeah. Okay. Children. Yeah. Here is Table Mates. Excuse me, I didn't mean children. Uh Table Mates.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:14

Potato Potata Danny.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:16

Uh the director was Fred Zinnerman, who also the year before had been nominated for best director for High Noon. Oh, yeah, nice. Uh and uh the commentary I heard when I watched the movie for the second time, which sometimes I think ye of little faith and belief in these movies should uh come down and watch the movie the second time with me to get a uh uh a wider uh understanding of the movie. Uh it was an actor that was also in the movie uh named Al Sargent. So the commentary is by the son of Fred Zennerman, Zinnerman, uh Ted Tim, and a guy who had a bit roll. Uh he's the guy who's picking weeds uh before the fight. And then he's also the guy who gets killed screaming the Japs are bombing us, the Japs are bombing us. Uh so the movie was actually filmed in Hollywood, and uh, you know, back then Hollywood was run by Cohen. Well, uh Columbia was run by Cohen. And this was a very controversial book. Oh, was it? Hollywood did not want to buy it because of all the controversy that surrounded it. It was pretty much anti-army and it dealt with uh illicit affairs and adultery, and everybody thought it was going to be too hot to be a movie. So uh Cohen took a writer on it. Uh he got uh Zennerman to uh agree to uh do it. Uh they uh had a fight right off the bat on who was gonna play Hugh uh Pruitt. Uh he wanted uh Aldo Ray, and uh the director said it is going to be Montgomery Cliff or I'm gonna leave. And Cohen had all the reasons why it couldn't be Montgomery Cliff. He didn't look like a boxer, this and that, but he was also gay.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:20

Montgomery Cliff was? Oh yeah. Oh, I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:23

There you go. Uh so uh the director said, Well, I'm not directing it, and then uh Cohen cave. Uh interestingly enough, you know, there's always a problem between authors of a book or a play and how it gets chopped up into a movie. Uh the uh director's son Tim has a letter from the author of the book to his father thanking him for keeping the majority of the book in there. Uh they filmed it over 40 days in Hawaii, and the only way they could get it done. Was with tremendous cooperation from the United States Army, which did not have a good feeling about this movie. Interesting. Because the book was pretty anti-army. And so they were insisting on a lot of different changes. That you couldn't do this, you couldn't do that. In the book, the captain is not retired. He's promoted.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:27

No. He's not retired.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:30

He is promoted. And the army said, no way. You got to figure out a different way to deal with them rather than him being promoted. And then there were a couple other ones. One, they didn't want any scenes of Borg 9 beating up Frank Sinatra. So it was just, you know, you got the feeling what was happening. So it was interesting that not only did they have to deal with the Army censorship, they also had to deal with the Hollywood censorship. I think by then it was called the Brain Committee. And they did not want this love on the beach. That was considered scandalous. They did not want it. They fought to keep it out. They insisted that her swimming suit have a skirt. That was one of the things that the censorship committee insisted on that she wear a skirt and it could only be filmed from certain angles. And they were very upset about the rushing water.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:37

But the Hawaiian tourism board probably was all in favor, yeah. They didn't get a vote in it.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:43

They didn't get a vote in it. So that's some of the things that uh completely ridiculous. That uh the the that these people went through doing this.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:53

You said they're they were filming on location at Schofield Barracks. In Hawaii, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:57

Yeah, okay. And they needed the Army's cooperation. And uh, and then you know they they actually uh for a while in the Hollywood uh uh newspapers and stuff like that, they were referring to uh Columbia buying this this book as Cohen's Folly, that it would never be turned into a movie. So, anyhow, they got that done. Uh the uh I told you about the guy that's in there. Uh they shot it in 40 days. Oh, another interesting thing for The Godfather.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:33

Oh, yes, I wanted to talk about that. Good.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:36

Uh the uh they uh they assure you that Frank Sinatra did not cut any horse head off to get this role in the movie, that at that time he was actually he was actually married to Ava Gardner, and that she was an Africa film in a movie, and he was with her, and his career had fallen apart. Yeah, totally fallen apart. And uh they wanted uh there there's some thought about Ava was like get him out of here, give it get him a job, you know, because their marriage was falling apart. Uh Cohen didn't want it, but he eventually agreed to it.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:18

Oh, see, yeah, he eventually agreed to, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:21

Say what?

SPEAKER_02 1:09:22

Cohen didn't want it, but he eventually agreed to it. He couldn't refuse. Maybe it wasn't a horse head.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:29

Well, he made uh he uh Sinatra was in Africa with Ava Gardner, and he made Sinatra pay for his own flight back to uh uh Hollywood for the screen test. Yep. So, anyhow.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:46

It is exactly the plot line of Godfather.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:55

Okay, and in the book, it wasn't a social club, it was a uh prostitution house, clearly.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:02

Yeah, you pick up on that.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:04

We all figured that out in about 10 seconds.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:06

Well, the censorship board insisted that it be a social club.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:10

I know I'm sure they did.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:12

We know and one of the things everybody knew what it was.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:17

One of the uh uh uh oh one of the uh commentators uh talked about how it's uh the movie has stood the test of time because of good acting, good script, and good staging of the scenes. And uh the only actor that was the number one choice of everybody was Bert Lancaster. Oh, so hot. And Deborah Kerr played out of her uh what she normally played, as did Donna Reed. Oh, yeah. They both played one out against type. And so that's one of the things they've said is that you know, uh, this is one of the things that really shows what great actors they were. Um and then we're gonna move on to uh he was uh Robert E. Lee Pruitt was supposed to be from Harlan County, Kentucky. And they actually went and recorded people's voices from Harlan County, Kentucky, and they he he was trying to learn how to uh talk Kentucky talk. So that's where the name Robert E. Lee came from. Uh and he spent a lot of time with at that time the best bugle player in America. I forget the name that the guy was, so he could learn how to play bugle. And then apparently uh he had trouble giving it up afterwards uh in real life. Uh so he would take a bugle around with him in a hotels and at restaurants, start playing it, and got got knocked out in a fight one night when the guy told him to quit playing it, you know. So I thought that was a little interesting thing. Um also let me see here. Then okay, so I thought, you know, I'm not a woman, as we all know.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:26

What?

SPEAKER_00 1:12:28

So uh I come at things differently. I try to appreciate and understand where you and Kate come from on this.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:42

Do you?

SPEAKER_00 1:12:46

In my mind, Sam's got his face. I thought I thought these were like strong women. I mean, you know, who who fell in love with two guys who, quite frankly, were more in love and being in the army. They both couldn't give up their love of being in the army. And Pruitt said that from the beginning. He wants he loves the army, and he wants to fit in. He's a loner who has uh issues with his own stubbornness, but he wants to fit in in the army. And uh Bert Lancaster, his refusal to want to become an officer, you know, he loves the army. And I think, you know, the women unfortunately come to the realization that they have fallen in love with two guys that, you know, can't love them back the way their life is. So, anyhow, uh I really liked the movie.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:50

I think you go so far. You don't love the movie.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:55

I really like the movie. Okay. I believe, despite everything that's been said here, that it still stands the test of time for being a truly great Hollywood epic. And I understand why it got eight Academy Awards. And uh, you know, it it blazed a lot of trails. Uh it helped break down uh how some people could be portrayed, and uh, and uh how actresses and actors could, you know, get roles that might not have ever gone to them before. You know? And and in one sense, you know, we're kind of going through that right now with the attack on uh on the Odyssey, with uh Elon Musk and the rest of his clowns all upset that there's an uh an uh black female playing uh Helen of Troy. Uh, you know, I don't know if you're following that on the internet or not.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:56

I'm not aware of this, but I oh Elon Musk. There's been plenty of these things that you know. I remember people uh losing their minds because the one of the Star Wars trailers had a black stormtrooper or how there were lady ghostbusters.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:12

Hermione uh Granger being an black female in the play Cursed Child, the casting, and that like uh well Elon's all upset about it, and Jimmy Kimmel had the best one.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:25

Like, Elon, do you know Helen of Troy was the daughter of a swan who uh who mated with humans in you know in the Greek mythology, which I thought was pretty funny.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:42

So, anyhow, yeah, but it's a white swan.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:45

I I I really liked the movie. I thought the acting was great. I've always been a fan of uh Donna Reed. I loved her in It's a Wonderful Life. I when I was a kid growing up, I always watched the Donna Reed show. Uh I thought she played this role very well. And I never have seen Deborah Kerr that much. Oh yeah. But uh, you know, I've seen movies she's in. You didn't? She was to remember.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:15

Also, she was in an affair to remember, which is also mentioned in Sleepless in Seattle, which is the Norm Refront movie where they all just start to cry um because they discuss an affair to remember because he doesn't know she's on that couch and she has been hit by a taxi. She can't walk. She's excellent.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:38

Anyhow, I thought she was great.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:40

Um she's great in an affair to remember, too. And um isn't that Carrie Grant? Yeah. Oh so hot.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:46

Uh and you know, I've I it there was a time I thought I was kind of buying into uh the whole Frank Sinatra horse head cut off and everything. But after watching the movie twice now, back to back and with the commentary, I realized he did a great job of acting.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:03

Oh, I think he did, I think he was excellent. I still think the mafia got him that that job.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:10

The godfather, the guy is perfect for the role, and Sinatra was perfect for this role, but it's very possible that the studio head was trying to block him because Sinatra had slept with somebody. That's very believable. Which is the issue in The Godfather. It's not like the mafia gets him the role that he doesn't deserve, it's that the studio head's trying to block him for sleeping with his girlfriend.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:36

Exactly, which I stand by. I think that even what you said still makes me believe that happened, Dan.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:42

Yeah, some Sinatra would do. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:46

So, any other thoughts on the movie? Um, Deborah Carr is beautiful. Bert Lancaster, beautiful. Yeah, a lot of beautiful people.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:58

Well, I I agree with you, Dan, on your point. Like, I think the women are strong here. It's society that's the problem. Yeah. So I think that was a good point.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:12

So, anyhow, and one of the uh uh commentary, you know, they've got a couple different specials. One of them is home movies, and uh the clips are scenes from the movie that were actually filmed in color. With you know, somebody from the family had a color thing. Oh and it's it's really interesting looking at the color thing, and this was also a controversial thing on this movie that it was filmed in black and white. Sure. Because uh color was all the thing. Yeah, and uh Columbia thought they could make two to three million dollars more if they had filmed it in color, but uh the director insisted it on being black and white, that it would be more believable. And interestingly, that move that year uh also was Daylight 13, was up for the running, and that was also filmed in black and white. So two of the pictures that got the most awards that year were filmed in black and white.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:11

Did you read but you didn't read the liner today?

SPEAKER_00 1:19:14

Yeah, I did.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:14

Yeah, you did. Oh, I missed it. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:18

Sorry. You know, you you miss a lot of things, I say Nan.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:21

I try to you know I try to listen.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:23

I was just I'm looking through the list of movies that are coming up, and I don't know if there's another best picture winner with Bert Lancaster in it. Not that I know of the the the only time we see Bert Lancaster.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:36

Kate mentioned that he was Dr. Graham in Field of Dreams. I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:40

He's the old man at the end at the in Field of Dreams.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:44

Yeah, who can't go back to go back.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:47

Moonlight Round.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:48

Yeah, that's so great that he was in Field of Dreams too.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:51

So he was in a number of movies that were nominated for Best Picture, but this might be the only time we see him.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:01

Yes, so good looking.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:02

I know.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:06

There's another really bizarre um Lancaster movie called The Swimmer.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:12

I knew when you said bizarre, I knew you were gonna say that.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:14

Have you ever seen that?

SPEAKER_02 1:20:15

No.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:16

It's it is mind-boggling. You see his naked butt. It made yeah, you do. It makes no sense.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:22

And he's still he was still uh ripped when he was 50 years old making that movie.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:29

Yeah, yeah. I I I still I think I've seen that movie one time, maybe not all the way through, even it's so Joan Collins is in that. Yeah, it is so out there. Yeah. He like goes from pool to pool. He like swims in people's pools. It's like on his way home. On his way home.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:47

It's like so that's amazing.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:50

It's so strange.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:51

It's weird.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:53

It must be weird if Garrus is saying it's weird. Um, so what are we watching next week?

SPEAKER_00 1:21:01

On the waterfront.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:02

One of the all-time greats. I could have been a contender.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:04

We're supposed to have Tom and Kate Archdeacon here.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:07

Exciting.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:08

Uh and I will I will text Kate and remind her to remind Tom and an extra mic to watch the movie. To watch the movie. Uh, so that's what we'll be doing next week. So I guess in conclusion, once again it's five to one.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:27

Uh that's not true.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:28

I've got broad shoulders, I can handle this.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:32

I don't know. I think you're exaggerating.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:38

Sam, you're just trying to get me to be a judge again, and I'm not gonna do it. I gave up being a judge, and you can't force me to do it. I won't box for you, Sam.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:51

Um that was the 26th movie that we've seen. I'm really glad we're doing this project, even though I'm very hard on the movies.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:00

And it's the scene.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:01

I think it's part of my job to be hard on the movies. Since Dan likes every single thing we ever watch. Must have a little counterbalance.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:13

So, yeah, I scratched off the poster, and it is the scene in the waves.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:19

The unrealistic scene.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:22

That scene is in the trailer, the theatrical trailer.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:26

I'm sure it is, because people were like, how did they do that? Is that really comfortable? I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:32

Well, you know, you and Sam obviously don't. There might have been controversy, but they knew it would sell tickets.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:38

Exactly. I'm just saying. All right, so on the water Paul was on the Appalachian Trail, so you know, something maybe happened on the Appalachian Trail, and you know, there's all kinds of crazy things going on in this world.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:52

What?

unknown 1:22:56

Oh my.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:57

All right, Dan, sign us off.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:00

So what?

SPEAKER_02 1:23:00

Sign us off.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:01

Yeah, I think that the pineapple upside down cake is great. You like it? Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:06

It was delicious. Yeah. The whole meal was good. Thank you, Katie Did. Thanks for doing it since we were coming back from hawking, too. Yeah.

unknown 1:23:14

You're welcome.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:16

Okay. Well, I will say from here to eternity. Was an interesting movie. And it's now time for us to uh bid adieu to our dear listeners. Uh I do have a call in to our uh good friend uh Bill La Heka in uh Albany about doing a uh website for uh Dinner with Dan people. So I hope we can get that done because I think that would be awesome to have a website. Then we can start monetizing and selling merch.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:55

Merch.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:56

T-shirts are in the future, huh?

SPEAKER_04 1:23:57

Yeah, t-shirts are coming.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:59

You had no idea how much merch was at the theater for uh the Mandalorian and Grogu. Oh my god, you thought you had walked into a Star Wars room. And we saw it in an IMAX. Oh yeah. On, you know, with it on either side. Not Cinerama. I mean Cinerama was curved and you know it was just a magnificent thing. But uh, you know, in Dayton used to have the last Cinerama Theater at the Neon. Yeah, at the Neon.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:26

That was the last one?

SPEAKER_00 1:24:27

Uh there was only he might have had the last uh because it's three projectors and Cinerama had to be ran uh synchronized and it was curved. Yeah. And uh if you remember at the old neon, out front on it, they had the Cinerama sign, which was one letter high, one letter low, one letter high, one letter low. Uh they had a big article in Vanity Fair, which I still get to this day, a very good magazine. Um not yet an official sponsor of Dinner with Dan, but I'm working on it. Uh they had a big article about it, and uh, I think it was Tarantino, one of the big directors, flew into Dayton to see The Cinerama. Uh the movie that still exists is How the West Was Won.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:18

They also had it filmed for regular, but they had it in Cinerama. And uh he came in, uh they did it, he had a private showing of it, and then one of those rich billionaires in Seattle, I don't know if it's the guy that started Nike or it's the guy that started Apple, one of those guys uh bought bought it from here in Dayton and moved it out to Seattle.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:44

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:44

Uh so before they did that, they had farewell viewings of uh uh uh how the West was won. And I took uh uh my late wife and the four kids to see it. So I don't think Eddie and Marty much remember it, but they were there. And I mean Cinerama was something because you sat there and people were all around you. Now this IMAX is kind of like that, but it's not the same, it's not the same, you know. Uh although uh my understanding is uh you're friends with Ellen Belker, and they weren't uh Denny wasn't at our judges luncheon uh Monday because they went to Vegas to see with the Wizard of Oz at the Sphere. To see the Wizard of Oz at the Sphere, which I heard uh when you do that, you think the flying monkeys are actually flying at you. So I very much would uh looking forward to hearing that because I'll never make it to Vegas.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:48

But anyhow, so that was you know a little bit of film history that we did have here in Dayton. That for a while we had the uh Cinerama. Uh but the only other films that exist were travelog films uh that they did around the world. And they're for whatever reason the film that they were on turned pink. So those uh copies of Cinerama or have like a pink cue to them, but how the West was won was still a good print. So, anyhow, that's a little bit of film history.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:22

Thank you, Dan.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:23

And you know, at one time, since I'm on film history, at one time, if you wanted, if you were, have I talked about this before? If you were wanted to uh play uh an American movie, you had to rent it from Twyman Films, which was based on Salem Avenue in Dayton, Ohio. Oh so when I was in college, uh Manchester, Middle of Nowhere, Indiana, uh every student group had either could have a movie Friday or Saturday at the Student Union. There was a catalog, of which I have a 1973 catalog. dig it dig it out for the next time we do it. Of all the films you can rent from Twyman Films. And the only place you can get them from in the entire country is Twyman Films in Dayton, Ohio. And I forget which movie when I was in Circle K we rented one. It came in two big cases like this. And it was the you know you you played it the big wheels and you know you it went through the mail and you had X amount of time to get it back to them. You know and that's how it was. If you wanted to show movies and of course DVDs or C V CRs came around and blah blah blah blah. But then the other thing that was interesting about Dayton's role in the film history is this is where they used to save and preserve all the movies was here in Dayton. And they just within the last 10 years moved that to like Alexandria, Virginia. This is where they had I think it was it was either at the Air Force Base or out by Wright State they had like a massive like warehouse like they had on Raiders of the Lost Art that had all this film in there. You know because if they don't preserve the film it turns to dust. Right. You know it just so they had they would preserve like 50 or 60 movies a year and they were doing that here in Dayton. So I thought that was pretty interesting and you know they're all out there now. And then of course we know Wright State has a great uh uh film film program film film program uh is it Tom Hanks or yeah Tom Hanks has been their bet the big benefactor and they've put out a couple uh Oscar winners that have come from uh there so that's pretty interesting it's awesome and she got the Academy Award uh for uh was it the Cancer one or was it the last truck? Uh oh Julia Riker she got it she got it for um not last truck she got it for American factor factory factory yeah yeah and Steve Bogner so anyhow all you people that are listening to us around the world and across this country Dayton Ohio why we may have interesting people here at the dinner table we do have a solid history of loving the horror movies so with that I'm gonna thank everybody for coming I'm gonna thank Kate for next time okay yummy yummy thank everybody for bringing the food down uh and uh I'll say hot speed and fair wins until we meet again