Gentleman's agreements show the ugly side of society

The whole gang is back for Dinner with Dan to enjoy some yummy Chinese food and to celebrate Kate and Diya's birthday and to watch our twentieth (!!) best picture movie, A Gentleman's Agreement. The 1947 winner tackles the issues of antisemitism and makes us ask the question if we are standing up to racism and bigotry in the tables we are sitting around every day.

We will be taking next Sunday off for the Easter holiday, and our big weekend celebrating Suffs coming to town--catch us in two weeks.  In the meantime, we hope you will enjoy this thoughtful conversation around an important film.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_08 0:27

I'm sure thank you. It's nice to be back.

SPEAKER_04 0:31

Okay. I'd like to welcome our dear listeners to episode 29 of Dinner with Dan. I am Dan Garrus, your host of the podcast, and I must start tonight's podcast. I've got to fact check myself before we go any further. You know, I'm all about transparency and honesty and everything. So last week I welcomed everyone to episode 27. When in fact it was episode 28.

SPEAKER_05 1:03

You called you out on that.

SPEAKER_04 1:04

I called myself out on it. I self-reported and I'm uh I'm self-deporting tomorrow. I'm gonna go back to bandwork.

SPEAKER_01 1:13

Be back in a Friday.

SPEAKER_04 1:15

I hope I didn't confuse anyone searching for a missing podcast. So this is actually episode 29. It is Sunday, March 29th, uh, 2026, which this year for the Christian faith is Palm Sunday. And perhaps keeping with the movie we will review for those of the Jewish faith, Passover begins this coming Wednesday, April 1st.

SPEAKER_03 1:40

That's right.

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As usual, we are taping from Row Avenue, uh the Premier Avenue in Dayton's premier historic district known as Five Oaks. Although I've only ever seen one oak on this tree, and that's in front of Eddie's house. We have some in the backyards. We do, okay. Well, maybe sometime we will go on a what do they call that? A um where you count birds.

SPEAKER_08 2:05

Um what is that called?

SPEAKER_04 2:09

It's something. You know.

SPEAKER_01 2:12

Birding, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:13

Yeah, no, I mean it's like uh you go out and count them. Census count. Yeah, census. Yeah, we'll go out and see if we can actually find five oaks. Okay. Okay, tonight at the table, uh, all the regulars are back tonight for this podcast. Nan, Sam, Dea, Paul, Kate, and Eddie. Uh regulars. The regulars. The table regulars are all back. No, no uh special guests here tonight. This is all uh the table regulars. And before uh updating each other uh about our doings this past week, what's for dinner?

SPEAKER_08 2:51

Well, we decided to take it easy tonight, and we're doing Chinese food from China Cottage. But I mean, it's like a lot of China cottage.

SPEAKER_11 3:02

Bread and a half.

SPEAKER_08 3:03

Uh there's mushu down at the end, there's vegetable lomain, there's pepper steak, there's combination fried rice, there's sweet and sour shrimp or pineapple shrimp, there's crab rain groom, there's wonton soup, there's egg drop soup, there's hot and sour soup, and there is a dozen spring rolls.

SPEAKER_06 3:25

You don't.

SPEAKER_08 3:26

That's what we got. That's right.

SPEAKER_04 3:27

You could never have too many spring rolls. We're telling you.

SPEAKER_08 3:31

Do you know what's great about there's only one thing better than Chinese food? Leftover Chinese food.

SPEAKER_09 3:38

We could have gone to all the best deli from our Jewish sandwiches.

SPEAKER_08 3:41

We could have, but this is easier. Did you watch the movie? Yeah. Oh, great. What?

SPEAKER_04 3:47

Oh yeah. Eddie watched the movie. We watched it this afternoon.

SPEAKER_08 3:50

Amazing. Um, so that's what we're at.

SPEAKER_04 3:54

Okay. Uh and um without going too far into detail, what is the wine we're having?

SPEAKER_08 4:04

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 4:05

So But you don't have to talk about the overall event because we'll talk about that at the end.

SPEAKER_08 4:10

Okay. Well, Sam and I did wine tastings for the event. We'll talk at the end of the podcast. And so um, we're having it at uh Joy, uh, which we have a story for at the end about that too, don't let us forget. And um uh there's two cabs, one of the cabs, cabernets we've chosen for next week, and then the Sauvemblanc that we chose for next week. So we let Mary Grace have all the Chardonnays, because I don't like Chardonnay, and um we and then uh there's a Pinot. She took a Pinot, Noir and I took a Pinot to our sister. We have it still back. So that's the wine we're having tonight.

SPEAKER_04 4:50

Okay. So, Nana, you can start since you were on the road a lot this week. What have what have you been up to? Man, this uh combination of fried rice is good.

SPEAKER_08 5:04

Is it good? I could work so hard on it, and Paul works so hard on it. Um I ate a little bite of it. I like to go around eating people's uh food. Um uh so I am back from where was I? I've been gone two weeks, right?

SPEAKER_02 5:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 5:22

Uh so I was in DC for the weekend last weekend. Where was I the weekend before, Sam? Phoenix. Huh?

SPEAKER_11 5:30

Phoenix.

SPEAKER_08 5:31

Oh, in Phoenix, yeah. So Phoenix and uh DC. And I went from Dayton to DC, DC to Chicago, Chicago to Dayton. And I can report that that means I've been in three airports that had no TSA trouble.

SPEAKER_11 5:47

There you go.

SPEAKER_08 5:48

Um so I had a great time in DC uh and um with friends, and then had a good time in Chicago as well. So glad to be, but I'm really glad to be home. And all my laundry is now washed. Very exciting. I'm thrilling.

SPEAKER_04 6:09

You told me you missed Sam. Yes. And Louie. Who did you miss the most?

SPEAKER_08 6:14

Sammy.

SPEAKER_04 6:17

Uh they're still in love. They're stolen love. They missed Sammy.

SPEAKER_08 6:24

He's the best.

SPEAKER_04 6:25

Louis just threw up.

SPEAKER_08 6:26

Did he? From all the all the uh love? Or did he eat something?

SPEAKER_04 6:33

I'm kidding.

SPEAKER_08 6:34

Oh, okay. I was like, it could be it could be. I missed Dea's birthday too, which was Thursday, so I was sad about that too. But they went to tie nine, right, Dea?

SPEAKER_11 6:45

Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_08 6:46

But that was my that was my week, Danny.

SPEAKER_05 6:51

Okay, Sam. Well, I think the travel problems getting back to Dayton must be me.

SPEAKER_08 6:58

Yeah, I have no problem, no problem.

SPEAKER_05 7:00

It's it's been constant on these trips where we we get there okay, and then we can't get home. Because when she went out by herself, there were no problems whatsoever.

SPEAKER_08 7:11

How about that?

SPEAKER_05 7:13

I know, right?

SPEAKER_08 7:14

Sammy, here will you get me some more water? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 7:17

Yeah, apparently it's me. It is you. Thank you.

SPEAKER_08 7:21

You're welcome. Do you want to talk about your week?

SPEAKER_05 7:24

Yeah, so yeah, Dee and I went out to uh went out to dinner. That was nice. We also went to the flyer game, uh, which was not well, they didn't play so well.

SPEAKER_02 7:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 7:38

But we had fun. Uh I'm really pleased. I play tennis every Monday. I'm really pleased with where my tennis game is right now. Knee's feeling really good. Um, we had we went to the No Kings rally yesterday. Nan spoke at that. That was really good. The wine tasting was really fun. We had a great dinner at the Pine Club.

SPEAKER_08 8:05

Love the Pine Club. My favorite. Pine Club.

SPEAKER_05 8:08

I'm gonna angle to get them as a sponsor for this just for Dan. Pine Club sponsors this podcast.

SPEAKER_04 8:15

I'm out.

SPEAKER_10 8:18

If they sponsor our podcast, you should pair it. Yeah. That is a deal breaker for me.

SPEAKER_04 8:23

I am out.

SPEAKER_05 8:28

Um that's it. Yeah. So it's it's been a good week. Dea. Dea, you're you're up, girl.

SPEAKER_07 8:37

Um, we did everything that Sam said we did.

SPEAKER_05 8:41

Yeah, we did. We did do those things.

SPEAKER_06 8:43

And then I went to school. But what's this week, Dea? Oh, spring break. Uh-huh. Oh, you're off this week. I am. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_07 8:55

You don't have to wake up early.

SPEAKER_08 8:58

Dea slept until like 10 30 this morning. I know.

SPEAKER_07 9:01

It's pretty unusual.

SPEAKER_08 9:03

Was it so nice?

SPEAKER_07 9:04

It was very nice. I usually get up at like 8 30.

SPEAKER_06 9:07

Yeah. Good for you.

SPEAKER_04 9:12

No. Uh when you're back in school in India, what breaks do you have over there?

SPEAKER_07 9:21

Um we get a break in like October. And we get one in like late March, early April. And we get one in like May, June-ish.

SPEAKER_04 9:36

So you go year-round?

SPEAKER_07 9:38

Uh yeah, except for these breaks.

SPEAKER_04 9:40

Okay. And how long are the breaks?

SPEAKER_07 9:43

Um, they're all about a month.

SPEAKER_04 9:45

Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. So you've got three almost month-long breaks, which an equivalent in America would be getting the summer off. Except you do it through the year. That's right. Which probably makes a whole lot more sense than how we do it.

SPEAKER_05 10:04

Yes. You don't lose, you don't lose as much.

SPEAKER_04 10:07

That continuity and stuff, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 10:09

Yeah, it's a better way to do it. Um our kids don't need to go farm all summer anymore. So it would make sense to change that.

SPEAKER_04 10:20

Just like uh daylight savings time. Oh. There you go. So um I think we're to have meat in it.

SPEAKER_08 10:29

Yep. Fortune cookie, you can eat that. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 10:33

Well we're forgetting Eddie. She's forgetting one thing. Or she's forgetting. I don't know.

SPEAKER_08 10:39

Dea, would you? I don't know either. What's something up between Eddie and Dea? Oh, birthday.

SPEAKER_09 10:49

Oh, well, he said it already.

SPEAKER_05 10:51

We talked about that. Oh, okay. We talked about that. Yeah. Oh, we also went to the baby naming.

SPEAKER_08 10:56

Oh, yeah, we're going to ceremony.

SPEAKER_05 10:58

That was nice.

SPEAKER_08 10:59

Rivera. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05 11:00

Yeah. Eddie.

SPEAKER_09 11:02

Which is baby naming? I took an exam and I tried to kill a grandpa.

SPEAKER_05 11:09

Oh. Did it be successful? Wait, I've seen some movies. Did it outwit you? I've heard that story before.

SPEAKER_11 11:18

Did it laugh? It's quicker than me. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 11:22

Oh my bet. Did you get poison to put out for it?

SPEAKER_09 11:26

I bought a little poison smoker, maybe.

SPEAKER_11 11:29

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 11:30

And that you put down their hole or something.

SPEAKER_11 11:34

Huh? I hope only the groundhog dies, but yikes.

SPEAKER_09 11:41

And then I also bought them out in the future.

SPEAKER_04 11:47

There you go. I've seen some big groundhogs here. Back in the day when my beloved Rio was with us. When I'd take him on what I called a hood ride.

SPEAKER_02 12:01

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 12:01

Where he would sit in the front seat. Where he would sit in the front seat and I would drive around town. And I'd always work my way through downtown. And then I'd go over to the McDonald's on Kiwi, and I would get him a uh hamburger with no onion or a 10-piece chicken nugget.

SPEAKER_11 12:22

Oh my lord.

SPEAKER_04 12:24

And I would then pull around in the back. Your dog eats Kleenex.

SPEAKER_08 12:29

Give me a brother. I don't order him food. That's why he eats whatever.

SPEAKER_04 12:35

So, anyhow, one nice spring summer day, uh, really warm outside, I had the windows rolled down. And I'm sitting there giving Rio, I'm either ripping up the hamburger or I'm ripping up the chicken nuggets. And Rio, you know, dogs can smell. You know, there's there's still what 10,000 tons more than American than humans or whatever. The next thing I know, Rio has smelled a groundhog in that field next to where that McDonald's is, and he is half out of the car from that window. He is gonna go after that groundhog. And I've got him by like the tail, and then I grab his leg and I'm trying to pull him back, and he's trying to get out to get that groundhog. Fortunately, I got him back in. Rio, God rest his soul, he's waiting for me at the Rainbow Bridge to cross over with him. He was known in this uh town on this street as the opossum dispatcher. Opossum killer. Our next door neighbors had a large possum family. Emphasis on had a large possum family that lived underneath there. Rio dispatched a number of possums one night when Catherine Ann was down here.

SPEAKER_09 13:52

Yes. No, he caught them.

SPEAKER_04 13:54

Huh?

SPEAKER_09 13:54

He caught them. Yeah. Okay. And VA decided to.

SPEAKER_04 14:00

Yeah, well, he caught a possum and brought him up on the front porch. Kate started screaming like the little girl she is. I wasn't screaming.

SPEAKER_11 14:10

You were screaming, oh my god, there's a dead possum on the porch.

SPEAKER_04 14:14

You you were a farm girl that like you couldn't believe it.

SPEAKER_11 14:17

There was I dispute this. I dispute this characterization.

SPEAKER_04 14:23

And my wife was screaming like the big city Chicago girl she is.

SPEAKER_11 14:27

She was tougher than me. And I'm like, I'm gonna go.

SPEAKER_04 14:29

So this sounds sexist.

SPEAKER_11 14:30

Yeah, I dispute these characterizations.

SPEAKER_04 14:33

I'm gonna go get a shovel and dispatch it.

SPEAKER_11 14:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 14:36

And like, no, no, so they keep peeking out this window, and I'm going like, this possum is plain possum. And sure enough, after about three minutes, one little paw moved.

SPEAKER_10 14:51

Yeah, it was like watching it reanimate.

SPEAKER_04 14:53

And then about three minutes later, another little paw moved. And about four minutes later, boom, that possum was gone.

SPEAKER_11 15:03

Really? It was little?

SPEAKER_04 15:04

It was little.

SPEAKER_11 15:05

It was a baby. But yeah. We thought Rio Rio had killed this thing.

SPEAKER_08 15:12

The possum was a playing possum. I love it.

SPEAKER_04 15:15

And then also my beloved Rio, and then we'll then we'll move on. My also my beloved Rio, one time I think when Virginia had him over, she would always let him off the leash, which is against the law in the city of Dayton. She would let him off the leash over by uh at Metro Five Rivers over by Island Park. And she got warned by the uh federalis over there uh two or three times about you gotta keep that dog on the leash, blah blah blah blah blah. And uh one day when she didn't have Rio on the leash, Rio violated federal law. He dispatched a geese, a Canada goose, geese, goose it came at him, Rio said, oh no, got him by the neck, and that was that. That's a violation of federal law. That is it's a migratory bird, even though they no longer migrate. They come to date and they go, property values are pretty low here. We're gonna stay. And uh, okay, so that's it for Rio's dog or uh critter uh dispatching. Paulie.

SPEAKER_01 16:26

Uh my update's pretty short. Uh I was at a curling competition at the Cincinnati Curling Club in Westchester. I played with two French in the St. Louis Curling Club and uh one from uh the Rocket City Curling Club in Huntsville, Alabama. Oh wow, and um we yeah Rocket City. Yeah, we went three and two, and uh, they're literally full of rocket scientists in this club that is like the president of the city. That's where that's where my son-in-law grew up.

SPEAKER_04 16:48

Yeah, it's in Huntsville, because his dad was a contractor for NASA.

SPEAKER_01 16:53

Yeah, yeah. So yeah, it's it's for real. One of the guys I hiked with was an aerospace engineer for NASA's contractor, and I was trying to get him involved in curdling because I said, these are your people, like go curl with them. Go buy them. But anyway, um, we we went three and two and won the fourth event, the event. Um, so that's okay. And um, yeah, that's pretty much it.

SPEAKER_08 17:14

That's pretty fun. Yeah, it was fun.

SPEAKER_04 17:16

Yeah, and Paul, I wish you would describe for our listeners the shirt you have on.

SPEAKER_01 17:22

Oh, uh yeah, another video. I have the old Main State flag uh design. I think it was the Main State flag for a brief moment, about a hundred years ago, and there was a citizen referendum in 2024 to try to get the current flag changed to this flag, which is basically a blue flag with a white background, a pine tree, and a single blue star in the corner. That's it. Very simple. Yeah, the current design is you know a traditional like blue background with the state CEO, and there's a farmer and a fisherman. Looks like Michigan. I mean, it looks like just another stuff.

SPEAKER_08 17:58

Also, it's a terribly designed flag according to flag makers. Yes, this is a great design flag.

SPEAKER_05 18:04

That's right.

SPEAKER_01 18:05

And uh so I wore this for some of my hike, or at least when I was like hanging out in a hostel, and uh telling Dan earlier I FaceTime my mom at one point. Because my my daughter Mia gave me the shirt, so I want to kind of represent that. And I was FaceTime Mom, and my mom's like, Oh, I really like your shirt. You know, I'm like, no, you don't, because you voted against the flag. Oh, yeah. Or the against the referendum, and she's like, Yeah, that's true, I did. Which I mean, I knew that. So I was kind of mean of my mom without thinking. Um, but she's forgiven me for being mean. But uh I think now the state license plates are this design, so it's only a matter of time before this flag makes a comeback as a new flag. So in the meantime, I'm gonna wear it.

SPEAKER_04 18:45

And one of the reasons why I wanted to bring that story up is because the uh table regular setting to my right, Nan Whaley, when she was mayor of Dayton, she whacked the beautiful flag.

SPEAKER_05 19:00

Beautiful.

SPEAKER_04 19:01

The beautiful terrible flag. Awful flag. It's the worst flag. The beautiful historic Dayton, Ohio flag. She whacked it to a flag that looks like it was designed by somebody on an LSD trip.

SPEAKER_11 19:16

This is like the third line you've told.

SPEAKER_05 19:19

You're gonna have a lot of cleaning up to do next to the book.

SPEAKER_04 19:24

My children know where my historic Dayton flag is. And when it comes my time.

SPEAKER_05 19:32

Oh no. It's gonna be draped on your coffin.

SPEAKER_04 19:35

That's gonna be draped on my coffin.

SPEAKER_08 19:38

That flag is so ugly. It was terrible. It's a great flag. It was terrible.

SPEAKER_04 19:42

It was a great worst form. It was the history of Dayton, and you just trashed it.

SPEAKER_08 19:46

It was terrible. One of the best things I did as mayor was that flag. And you know what I also would say? That was like fraught with like all kinds of things could go wrong, and really nothing went wrong because the flag before was so bad.

SPEAKER_05 20:02

Yeah, nobody could get mad.

SPEAKER_08 20:04

Nobody could say like this flag is and I I go to the airport and see that flag, and I'm like, I did a good job there. Yeah. Disagree, hard disagree with you.

unknown 20:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 20:18

I can't even tell that flag. Oh I mean, is it Dakon's flag?

SPEAKER_04 20:22

Oh, yeah. Look at that thing. It's like, you know, you gave five kids a bunch of colors and said hey, come up with a flag.

SPEAKER_08 20:28

That's not even true. That's not true. It's only like one color.

SPEAKER_04 20:32

Okay, Catherine Ann, what have you been doing?

SPEAKER_11 20:36

Well, let's see. Um, I had work this past week. Um I monitored from my email the dispute that has been going on for weeks between my insurance company and RegoRoader. They've finally come close on the number that they're agreeing to settle on. Oh, great. So I think that's the final, final. Oh, thanks.

SPEAKER_08 21:05

Oh, I thought you would, I thought you were getting it pretty small. I don't want any. I thought you needed another glass for you.

SPEAKER_11 21:10

Thank you. Uh so yeah, I think the final piece of that nightmare is about to be over.

SPEAKER_04 21:15

Now, this is with your homeowner's insurance.

SPEAKER_11 21:16

My homeowner's insurance and rotor router have been on fight over the years, and my homeowner's insurance keeps insisting that they didn't need to use the equipment that they used, and I'm just like, you know, how would you know? So it's been it's been a big ordeal that I've just been kind of caught in the middle of. It's like been watching this tennis match with the boggling back and forth. Um so I think that's coming to an end, which is nice. Um I bought a new car this week. Whoa! I know. You got rid of the convertible? The Jeep. You did. I traded in my Jeep for a new Jeep. Oh, yeah, that's a hybrid. What color? It's silver. She's buried the lead, her birthday gift to her. So it was kind of. I I had been having some issues with my old Jeep that were starting to become more of a problem with the transmission and a few things. And I was just kind of like, I don't like that I am worried about this car, and I'd not, you know, like I paid it off a while back, and like I don't want to have big bills coming for my car. Yeah. Um, and I've been wanting to get a hybrid or an electric vehicle since I've got this other gas vehicle. Like, you know, it's like and the time was right, and the car that I really wanted, I decided to go test drive, and they had a bunch of rebates on it, and I got a really good value on my trade-in. And it just it all made sense and it came together fast, and so I bought a new car on Wednesday after work. Thank you. It's fun, it's really nice. It smells like a new car. So it's new, it's a it's brand new. Yeah, it had 19 miles on it.

SPEAKER_08 23:06

I love new cars.

SPEAKER_11 23:07

It's really nice. It's so and it's really the hybrid, it's really nice. I really like it.

SPEAKER_04 23:13

So you're gonna put an electrical charging in in your garage.

SPEAKER_11 23:17

I don't have to. It's not a plug-in. It's hybrid. It's a hybrid. So it's it recharges. Yeah, it the battery is regenerative, so when I break, it sends energy to the battery and like makes your mile, it makes your gas mileage go a lot further.

SPEAKER_08 23:31

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_11 23:33

Yeah, so in you know, like in these times, it will hopefully start paying off quickly.

SPEAKER_04 23:41

Well, that's a big that's a big news, Katherine.

SPEAKER_11 23:44

What else have I done this week? I went to the baby naming, which was very nice on Friday. Um I had to do some work in my basement today because my basement's getting waterproof on Monday and Tuesday. Oh, that's cool. So that's happening. So they're gonna like spray it with stuff or they dig like a basically like a drain around the perimeter of the basement inside and direct it all to like this major sump pump that pumps out into the yard, and then they put a thing on the walls and stuff. So, you know, hopefully it's more they call it waterproofing, but it's really about managing the water better and like getting it out and draining, which will be nice.

SPEAKER_04 24:30

That's great.

SPEAKER_11 24:31

Yeah, and yesterday was my birthday, and I had a two-hour massage, which was amazing. I've never had a full two-hour massage before. I go to a guy that used to be at square one, and he's out on his own now. I got my own guy. So do many others. I and Charles goes to him too, and other people I know. Dorian. Yeah. Yeah, you know who he is. He's really good. And he so yeah, two hours I fell asleep during the massage, which I hardly ever do. And then I I went over to Dorothy Lane Market because he's close to one of the Dorothy Lane's. And I just I bought I got a glass of wine and did some shopping, and then I bought a bottle of wine and got carded on my birthday. And I I felt like a million bucks.

SPEAKER_05 25:19

Happy birthday.

SPEAKER_11 25:20

I felt like a million bucks. I can't remember the last time somebody asked me for my ID. I'm like, I credit the two-hour massage with this.

SPEAKER_04 25:32

That was yesterday?

SPEAKER_11 25:34

Yeah. And then I had dinner at Grist for my with my family, and it was very nice.

SPEAKER_04 25:40

So since I'm telling the truth tonight on every other it's like you're acting like you in the J.

SPEAKER_08 25:45

I know.

SPEAKER_04 25:46

I have it on good uh source that after that you went down to the University of Dayton and acted like you were still in college. And when they when the when they asked you for your wristband to prove that you were still a student, what did you do?

unknown 26:08

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 26:10

Got naked and ran away from them. There you go. Oh, okay. Yeah, this is possible.

SPEAKER_04 26:17

I was gonna say she had the the gallon jug of uh stuff that they mix up and drink, and you chugged it back out to rage. You chugged it and then threw it at them and took off running. The board.

SPEAKER_11 26:27

I don't think so. No, I was, you know, I mean, I was like basically a a noodle after my massage. I was lucky I could drive home.

SPEAKER_04 26:38

Well, you've had an interesting week this week.

SPEAKER_11 26:41

I know. Normally my weeks are very boring. A lot better than two months ago. Next week it'll be boring again.

SPEAKER_04 26:49

Better than two two months ago when you were dealing with the uh flood.

SPEAKER_11 26:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 26:54

Okay. What did you do this week? Okay, my week this week was um we celebrated Marty's 36th birthday. We had a uh Pizza Factory pizza party. Pizza Factory proud sponsor of um Dinner with Dan podcast because I deem it so.

SPEAKER_08 27:14

Uh not that they've given us anything besides you just like to go there.

SPEAKER_04 27:18

Well, nobody gives us anything. Yeah, uh, but I've still think it's the best pizza in Dayton, Ohio.

SPEAKER_01 27:24

I think reverse sponsorship. Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_11 27:26

I think Dinners with Dan proudly sponsors.

SPEAKER_08 27:31

That's what I'm excited about.

SPEAKER_04 27:32

I love Dayton Pizza Factory. Bill Daniels, shout out to Bill Daniels, great guy, very active in a lot of different civic organizations, and great guy, and very good pizza. Uh we then had um that was uh we did that Wednesday. Marty's birthday was actually Tuesday. Uh and uh we just watched on the uh on the uh basketball on the uh tournament uh UConn coming last second from behind and uh making it to the Final Four with an unbelievable shot, three-point shot, to beat uh uh uh Duke after they had blown a 10-point lead. And every time I hear about UConn, that goes takes me back to Marty's actual birthday, which was uh March 24th, uh 1990. Uh we had a Virginia had extremely hard labor with Marty. We got there at like 3 o'clock in the morning. Uh nothing was moving, nothing was moving. We walked those halls at old good Sam nonstop, nonstop, nonstop. Marty was not coming, Marty was not coming. And Virginia, God rest her soul, she never wanted to have any drugs, she wanted to do it natural. You know, Lily was all natural, no drugs. Frank was an emergency cesarean, and uh Marty was planned to be a V back. And uh so nothing's happened, and nothing happened. And Virginia's finally, that's it. She's had it, you know, she's worn down, she's exhausted. She's like, give me an epidural, I want an epidural, and I'm like, You sure? And she said, Yes. So, you know, by the time the anesthesia, and she had this old female doctor who was filling in for her good Indian doctor, I might add, who that she really loves. Uh, she had this old female doctor who was like, Oh, honey, you can't take this, you know. I mean, she was like a drill sergeant. I was like ready to smack her. And like, okay, give her the epidural, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And uh, she was the fill-in, because uh uh Virginia's uh normal OGB Allen was on vacation or whatever. And so by the time the anesthesiologist gets there, we have playing because it's a birthing room now, and on the TV, it's the tournament, and UConn's playing somebody. So, you know, you just have it on in the background, you know, and I'm holding her hand, it's gonna be okay, it's gonna be okay. She's screaming, she's going crazy. The anesthesiologist gets there. I think he went to the same anesthesiology school that I went to.

SPEAKER_09 30:16

Oh god.

SPEAKER_04 30:17

Uh he couldn't. I mean, you know, they're messing with the spine then, you know. You know. Oh my god. And this guy was, I mean, he was, oh man. He was, it was like he was from Rotoroter.

SPEAKER_11 30:30

And uh so by the time Trust me, I don't even know that they should be in your sewer drains half the time. I wouldn't trust them with the spine.

SPEAKER_04 30:38

We don't mean that, Rotor. Don't sue us. Don't sue us. That was that was not authorized by dinner with Dan.

SPEAKER_01 30:45

Uh we were sponsorship.

SPEAKER_04 30:48

Yeah. So anyhow, we don't spot a rooter. He finally gives her the shot, and like 30 seconds later, we're screaming for this mean old doctor to show up. And boom, the baby comes. Marty comes, just screaming and yelling like he has ever since he's been born. And, you know, is Yukon this, Yukon that, Yukon this, Yukon that. So uh the nurses tell me, your wife has been through a lot. This epidural's gonna knock her out. You need to get out of here, let her go to sleep. We've got the baby. They look at their clock and their watch and say, don't be back until 10. So Virginia falls asleep, and I'm like, bonus. There's a Dayton Dynamo game at Hair Arena.

SPEAKER_02 31:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 31:37

And we were seasoned ticket holders to the Dayton Dynamo. I have I have been told by the medical professionals, get out of here. Your wife needs to sleep. So I look at the watch, yeah, yeah, and I'm going to Hare Arena because you know it's out where good Sam was, so it's a hop, skip, and jump to Hair Arena. I go there, Dayton Dynamo win. And uh, and that was a good season for him. 89, 90 was a good season. They won the national division of the indoor soccer league. And I look at the I look at the uh my watch, and it's 9.30, the game's over, and I'm not supposed to be back till 10. And I'm like, okay. So I'm driving back, I'm going down Salem Avenue, there's the Wendy's. I go. I haven't had anything to eat all day long because I didn't want food at Hair Arena. I don't mind saying that because they got hit by the tornado and they're out of business. Sue me.

SPEAKER_05 32:30

Uh so anyhow. I don't think the owners of Hair Arena wanted to eat the food at Hair Arena. I mean, that's not a controversial opinion.

SPEAKER_04 32:39

That's true. But anyhow, so I go into Wendy's, I get a I get a uh I get a double with cheese, and I'm I eat it on the way back to Good Sam. I get to the parking, I walk into her room, the birthing room, at 10 till 10. You didn't walk in with the food, did you? No, no, I ate it before I got there. And you know what I heard? You son of a bitch, where did you go? The doctors told me to that they told me to leave. Then you deserted me. I've been up, I've been up wondering where you've been. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Oh man. So I heard about that the rest of my life.

SPEAKER_11 33:16

They really screwed you on that.

SPEAKER_04 33:17

They really did. Dynamo won that. And it and but then it comes out, it comes out years later, we're at something watching uh the NCAA men's tournament, and they're talking about Yukon, and uh, well, everybody will be happy in the state of Connecticut. And Virginia goes, why would they be happy in the state of Connecticut? Yukon's in up in Alaska. And I'm like, What? And like everybody looked at her like, what are you talking about? Yukon. They were playing when Marty was born. I know they're an Alaska team. Now I'm gonna tell you what. If I'm lying about that, Virginia Maud strike me dead right now and take me out and lay me down by St. Kateri with you, and I'll have a draw her sponsorship. She can't fact-check me on this one because it's true. So, anyhow, one of my lawyer friends uh whose parents actually taught at the University of Connecticut, when I'm telling them that story, he gets me a Yukon sweatshirt, which I give to Virginia, and you might have remember her wearing it. She actually wore a Yukon sweatshirt. So, anyhow, that's a true story. Uh very funny. It was interesting because then, you know, this was the week we had the baby naming of uh Marty's uh second daughter, Vera, which was very nice down at her house. Sam was there, Dia was there, Eddie was there, uh Kate was there, I was there, had a nice little crowd, and that was a nice little ceremony. Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 34:49

Uh watching can we say what the highlight was?

SPEAKER_04 34:53

The highlight was watching Isabel storm around with her light-up boots on.

SPEAKER_11 34:58

Clumping around with those rain boots, clumping around with the rain boots. Walking straight up to Julie, who is about to like say a prayer, is rocking the baby in her arms, stands right in front of her and goes, Mommy! That was my favorite part.

SPEAKER_08 35:15

Yeah, yes, is he adjusting well, it is he's adjusting well to having another baby in the house.

SPEAKER_11 35:23

Very true to herself in that moment.

SPEAKER_05 35:26

Yes, the the terrible threes are here. Yeah. She's not a sponsor yet, right?

SPEAKER_04 35:33

She's my girl, man. She is nothing but a tiny little Marty. So all I can say, you know, my dad, God rest his soul, he had four boys. And when my dad would get mad at us, he would say, and this is the truth, I hope you have four son of a bitches just like you. That was that was my dad's favorite thing, was son of a bitch. I never ever heard him say the F-bomb. But son of a bitch, everything was son of a bitch this, son of a bitch that. And when he would get mad at us, he'd go, I hope you have four son of a bitches just like you. So I ain't gonna count how many I've got, but anyhow. Uh-huh. So uh then uh yesterday, uh, well, I missed Legacy on Friday because of the name changing, but then I went to Legacy yesterday, had a nice time, and uh, as usual, I uh uh brought uh Brandy, who is my favorite waitress home because she lives not far from here. And Brandy is now the new proud owner of my trusty steed.

SPEAKER_08 36:42

Oh the van? Of the van. The red van? The red van. Did you give it to her? I gave it to her. Oh, good. I'm glad you didn't make her pay. I know.

SPEAKER_04 36:50

And is it running again? All it needed was a brand new battery. Okay. She got a brand new battery, it fired right up. Good. Her mom drove it home to their house, and her mom reports that it drives like a dream, which I always said it did. And I am so happy that after 16 years of being my trusty steed, that I hope her and her family get another another good three or four or five years out of the trusty steed. Because uh Trusty Steed was a great man. 16 years.

SPEAKER_08 37:26

That's great.

SPEAKER_04 37:27

Trusty Steed never left me on the side of the road. Yep. Had some issues, but it never left me on the side of the road. So, anyhow, uh, that was a trusty steed. And then yesterday, uh, after I got back from dropping Brandy off, uh my the woman who's known me the longest on this planet, Ava Kay Good, was returning from a uh baby shower in Kentucky that she got up from Van Wert in the morning, drove all the way to Kentucky for this baby shower. I'm like, Ava Kay, you're too old to be doing this. She's my age. We were in the nursery together. Uh so she stopped and I had a chicoterie thing set out.

unknown 38:07

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 38:08

And she said, Is there a movie we can watch? And I said, Well, you know, we're gonna do this. So we sat here at the dinner with Dan table and watched the movie we're gonna talk about tonight. Oh nice as we had our chakoterie. So uh we we watched the movie and then um she took off back to Van Worth and got back there to stay for the podcast.

SPEAKER_11 38:29

Uh she needs to come to one.

SPEAKER_04 38:31

I'm working on getting her here.

SPEAKER_08 38:32

Yeah, I'd love it. Ava Kay, come and be with us. We're gonna work one out. Okay, good.

SPEAKER_04 38:40

And so today uh just got up. Uh Eddie got us our regular uh Sunday uh coffee and breakfast bagels from Holy Grounds, the official coffee of the Dinner with Dan podcast. It's actually a real good value. Yeah, the coffee's good. Yeah, I like our coffee. You get a bagel with sausage, egg, and cream cheese. It's not bad. And DoorDash, it's you know, it's it's not bad at all. Yeah. So that's our Sunday thing. Nice. Well, so anyhow, that's what brings us here to where we are. So tonight we are going to We're going to talk about uh best Oscar picture in our in our quest number 20. Wow. Wow. This is the 20th best picture movie that we've watched on this slog through.

SPEAKER_08 39:39

Slog, it's been a delight. Yeah, it's really so that's not a slog, it's a delight.

SPEAKER_11 39:45

Now there are some movies coming that'll make it feel sloggish, but oh, what like what's coming that's slogish?

SPEAKER_08 39:50

Ordinary people. Oh, isn't that like 1984? It's like next year. I just laid that out on a border for you.

SPEAKER_04 39:57

So, anyhow.

SPEAKER_08 39:58

Lost weekend was a slug. That was a slug. Well, that was a tough one. That was a tough one.

SPEAKER_04 40:02

That was a tough one. So, anyhow, tonight is the 20th movie, which means we only got 78 more to do.

SPEAKER_08 40:11

Maybe 79. That's how we get there.

SPEAKER_04 40:14

Maybe 79. That's right. So, anyhow, without further ado, we're like 20% through.

SPEAKER_08 40:19

It's pretty amazing.

SPEAKER_04 40:20

Yeah, yeah. Uh, so without further ado, uh, tonight we are going to discuss Gentlemen's Agreement. Uh, as it's worked out here the last couple times. I'm going, you know, I get it on DVD. So I forgot to tell you, not only did I watch it with Ava Kay last night, I also watched it with Eddie Garris this this afternoon.

SPEAKER_08 40:40

So you got the two viewings.

SPEAKER_04 40:42

So I had the two viewings. Fortunately for me, there was no documentary on it. So I didn't have to watch it three times. Uh, but anyhow, I've been reading what's on the back of the DVD. So let me read that. Uh Director Ella Kazan and producer uh Darrell F. Zanek caused a sensation with the most spellbounding story ever put on celluloid. That came from Hollywood Reporter. Recipient of three Academy Awards, including Best Picture, one of the first films to directly tackle racial prejudice. This acclaimed adoption of Laura Z. Hobson's bestseller stars Gregory Peck as a journalist, assigned to write a series of articles on anti-Semitism. Searching for an angle, he finally decides to pose as a Jew and soon discovers what it is like to be the victim of religious intolerance. Dorothy McGuire, John Garfield, Dean Stockwell, and June Havick also star in this post-World War II classic. So it's going to be the Best Picture from 1947. And for Best Picture, and I think we started this a couple uh episodes ago. I'm going to tell you what movies it was up against for Best Picture. The Bishop's Wife, one of Kate Evans's favorite movies.

SPEAKER_08 42:08

I love the Bishop's Wife too.

SPEAKER_04 42:10

Crossfire, which I'm not familiar with. Great Expectations. And Miracle on 34th Street.

SPEAKER_02 42:17

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 42:19

So that's who it was up against. And you know, that was back when only five movies were nominated. Yes. Then they moved it to ten, and I think it's it's not ten anymore. But anyhow.

SPEAKER_05 42:28

No, it's still ten. It was so it was ten. Then they went to five for a really long time. And then it went back to ten 15 years ago.

SPEAKER_04 42:38

Been a while, yeah. Ten's too many.

SPEAKER_05 42:40

Agreed.

SPEAKER_04 42:41

Um so it got best picture Oscar, then it also got best director for Ella Kazan, and best supporting actress for Celeste Home.

SPEAKER_08 42:49

Was the blonde Celeste Home? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 42:53

So with that, I'm going to have some egg drop soup. And Nan, you can start yakking.

SPEAKER_08 43:00

Um so I thought this movie was excellent. Uh uh, I really enjoyed the theme. I didn't know Sam Sam and Sam watched it separate from me. Uh so he told me that he thought it was slow moving but had a powerful ending. And I just thought, like, actually, it I didn't find it that slow moving. I found it, you know, a story of like it's a love story. And like, you know, finding a partner uh that you can agree with that, you know, that like I think the theme is sharing your values. Yeah, that share, you know, the sh and not just like saying like, oh yeah, like I, you know, I'm anti Semitic, but like what actions do you take? And I think it also uh makes you kind of consider even in today's time, like, you know, where are you sitting at a table allowing um racism or bigotry to exist and not speaking up? And so that's kind of the reflection I had from it. I thought it did a nice job of that. Gregory Peck is so fine. He is so fine. Man, he is fine. Yes, he is. I know. I know. So fucking fine. There you go. And worth it. Worth the $5. And um Sam and I were talking. I'll I'll bring this up because Sam said to me, I don't know if he was gonna say it, that um he wishes he would have ended up with the blonde.

SPEAKER_05 44:27

And I said, I just always pick the blonde. No, I understand why it had to be everything went back to her. That's fine.

SPEAKER_08 44:36

I think it's right. I think like, you know, he's in love with her, even though she is not perfect and she doesn't completely it takes her a while to figure out like yeah, what you know how to how to live in her values, right? I think she had the same values, but she wasn't willing to live in them and was afraid to stand up, and then she got it, and really through his friend, like it helped to help that was Jewish, helped her see that. So um, yeah, I really enjoyed the movie. I thought it was thought-provoking. Um Gregory Puck is very attractive, and um the the only thing I would say that my my own criticism is just kind of talking, thinking with it about it with Thea this morning, is that it does get a little preachy. Yes. You know, like the the agreed the uh you know little preachy, you know, a little like too.

SPEAKER_11 45:32

It's heavy-handed. It's too heavy-handed. It's a little heavy-handed.

SPEAKER_08 45:35

Yeah, that would be the only that would be my only critique of the movie, I would say. That's what I thought. What do you think, Kate?

SPEAKER_11 45:41

Oh no, we're doing Sam. Sam.

SPEAKER_05 45:43

You know, don't mess with Dan's rules here. I know. He's not gonna call it the rules.

SPEAKER_11 45:50

Sorry. I know.

SPEAKER_05 45:50

Yeah, well, those rules will change when Dan wants them to, but no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_04 45:55

Dan. If you had better attendance, then it would be.

SPEAKER_05 46:09

Yeah, I I I loved it. It it was we'd criticize a couple of the earlier pictures for you know uh carefully stepping around kind of the anti-Semitism that was that was obviously present in some of the injustice in those movies. Life of Emile Zola for for one for sure. Uh Casablanca a little bit too. But this takes it like head on. It's it's a bold and I think risky movie for them to make at that time. Um, I thought, you know, I really enjoyed that he's he's writing the article to convince people who aren't anti-Semitic but are staying quiet to like speak up and stop enabling anti-Semitism, and then he can't get his own girlfriend to do what he's trying to get done through the article. So I thought that was was a really nice uh uh setup, how they did that. That's a real good point, Sam. Oh that's a real good point. Thank you. See, this is why we go in order.

SPEAKER_08 47:19

What about the secretary? What'd you think about the secretary?

SPEAKER_05 47:23

Oh, the yeah, the one who's uh Jewish that's anti-Semitic. So sort of yeah, I mean I think you see that in society. Like it's not there's a lot of gray and it's not cut and dry, and and then you know, and uh you see this in in our society today where uh people who've experienced discrimination for a long time gay people, they yeah, it could be gay people, black people, what whatever, they uh you know, in a way kind of become accustomed to it and uh will sometimes change themselves to just try to get along easier. Or there, you know, one thing the reporter, of course, he's getting what like he's raging, he's getting like really upset about the stuff he's seeing because it's all new to him. Whereas the people who have experienced it for 30 or 40 years are somewhat accustomed to this, and you will see like you'll see this all this time. We we see this with African American friends of ours who you know, like I'll see something and be like really pissed about it, and then an African American, especially if they're older, who've who've dealt with it their whole life, are like, oh yeah, well, like that's just like this this is just a Tuesday for me, so what you know what whatever. I'm not you know, can't even get that upset about it. Um oh, one other thing. The uh you know, the the publisher, uh, you know, there's a line about the uh uh the pastor, uh uh Clemens.

SPEAKER_11 49:00

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 49:01

Yeah, yeah, people who don't send, even people, you know, we're not tired of trying to reach the person that you know sends money to uh to this guy. Um and I looked him up, and you know what party he was? America First. He was a right-wing anti-Jewish politician all the time.

SPEAKER_07 49:21

So interesting.

SPEAKER_05 49:23

I passed it on to Dia.

SPEAKER_07 49:27

What did you think? Um I enjoyed the movie overall. I I think I have like some things to pick with the journalist for sure. He seemed like a bit of a hothead to me. He got upset very quickly.

SPEAKER_11 49:41

Um Do you think he was a little naive? I definitely did. I that's yeah, that's what I took it, yeah. Like it came from a bit of a naive experience.

SPEAKER_07 49:53

And that sort of like made me question the authenticity of the article he wrote because he wasn't actually a Jew, so his experiences, the way he like understood them might not be how a Jew would understand them. Um I sort of I compared it to a book that I read, which was called Um Ten Days in a Madhouse by Nellie Bly, who was a journalist who spent 10 days in an asylum.

SPEAKER_03 50:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 50:19

So that was kind of cool. This whole idea of sort of trying to live through something. Um I found that very interesting. My favorite character is probably the colleague, the blonde girl. She seemed like she was the most like unbiased of them all. And yeah, so I think I liked her the most.

SPEAKER_02 50:41

And I I feel like she picked the blonde.

SPEAKER_07 50:43

She should have picked the blonde. And also, something that I I think Sam mentioned was that um the friend, the soldier, was he a soldier? Yeah, he was actually closer to um the girlfriend than the guy was to his girlfriend in character.

SPEAKER_01 51:04

Do you remember talking about that? Yeah, because she was thinking about his advice too, and they're having hard-to-heart conversation. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_11 51:13

Kind of opening up to each other. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 51:17

Yeah. It was interesting.

SPEAKER_08 51:19

Is it it didn't be How Green Was My Valley? Oh no, definitely not.

SPEAKER_04 51:24

But Dia brings up the uh the uh lieutenant. I think he was a lieutenant in the engineering division. If you look at his uh things on his thing, it was the uh the bridge. So that meant he was an an engineer. Uh that actor's name was John Garfield. Yeah. And he was a very, very uh popular actor. Uh he was probably on his way to becoming uh the next Humphrey Bogart from a standpoint of popularity, but he tragically died when he was 39 years old. Died very, very young.

SPEAKER_10 51:58

Uh he was Jewish.

SPEAKER_04 52:00

Yeah. Yeah. And uh tragically died when he was just there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:03

Then when he was just blacklisted for a year from the House on American Activity.

SPEAKER_04 52:06

He got blacklisted from the House on American Activities Committee. Uh but uh I once between my old coffee shop friends, they almost came to uh fisticuffs at Old Panera down on uh on uh Brown Street on who had the bigger funeral, Rudolph Valentino or John Garfield. Oh boy because both of them had massive, like 45,000, 50,000 people turned out club following. Uh yeah. That's how popular Rudolph Valentino was, and that's how popular John Garfield was. So if you look it up, you know, something some people say Valentino had the biggest funeral, others say John Garfield had the biggest funeral. So that's you know, he was a big name for that movie. Absolutely a big name. Okay, Eddie. You watch the movie this time, let's hear your thoughts.

SPEAKER_09 53:11

It was heavy handed. I mean it was heavy-handed, but it wasn't much of a kind of boring. Um we got much to say about to say about it.

SPEAKER_04 53:26

Okay, well Eddie, why don't you talk about since Sam brought up uh the uh the one guy, why don't you talk about the other guy? Because you asked me and I didn't know, and you stopped the film and got on your internet.

SPEAKER_09 53:39

Oh the Bilbo guy? Yeah, remember there was a thing about Bilbo. I think it was a governor of Mississippi, then a senator from Mississippi, uh, and he was part of you know just the white nationalist movement. He was, I think, uh the poll tax the poll tax.

SPEAKER_04 53:56

Yeah, yeah. I I think the blonde characters say that they get once a once a year they scream about Bilbo. And I I don't know, they could be talking about Bilbo baggins for a while. But uh we stopped the movie and Eddie looked it up. Oh, nice. So yeah, shout out to the internet.

SPEAKER_05 54:14

Yeah, they're dipping their toes uh into the waters here of uh taking on discrimination. Yeah, but we're not they're not quite going far enough. They're going so far as to talk about discrimination against African Americans. In fact, I don't even think we saw one even in the background uh in this movie. Uh I also want to clarify the name, it's it's Gerald L.K. Smith. That was the name of the guy. I butchered it earlier. Gerald L. K. Smith.

SPEAKER_09 54:40

So he was past.

SPEAKER_01 54:43

Yeah. Paul. I'm kind of torn because I I think like Sam was saying, I think it's a bold choice um for the subject matter. Of course, we know like you know, from the behind the scenes, like Samuel Samuel Gold Goldwyn didn't want to do the movie because he's just afraid of people just stoking up, you know, anti-Semitism, even though he agreed to he's Jewish. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 55:07

Well, I mean, you get that at the you get that at the top of the movie where it's like, oh, I think you should be quiet about it. One of the publishers that's Jewish is like, oh yeah. You know, like if we talk about it, it just makes it more.

SPEAKER_11 55:18

Stoke this fire. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:19

And so I I kind of initially got excited um when um the author was going to the journalist is gonna, you know, send out letters, you know, to uh potential employers and all these things using two different names, and he's gonna, you know, have a secretary help him. And of course, we don't hear anything really about that, which would have been a boring movie, I get it. But I think it would have maybe been a little bit more um relevant maybe to a larger audience. But of course, audiences want to see the want to see the interpersonal, you know, I get it, the love story. Going to Darien, Connecticut, very, you know, waspy area, and seeing all that. That makes for a better movie, I get it.

SPEAKER_11 55:58

Um but we get a flavor of that when the secretary tells them that's true, yeah, her story.

SPEAKER_01 56:04

Then there's a meeting in the publisher's office, right? Um but I I I mean I thought the pacing was good. I mean, Gregory Prack was good. I mean, I I actually enjoyed the movie, particularly, and I think um you know, the uh John Garfield's uh character was was really awesome. I the couple one rabbit hole I went down is when we see the letter that's addressed to him, it's like the uh 333 engineering division. I actually looked that up just to see if it was real, and it is, and they got inactivated like in January 1947 because they were helping build um like camps for um uh when I say camps, like bases or temporary housing for like all the GIs that were being staged to return home. So when they made a comment in the movie about, oh, he's still over there, even though we know this is like 19 you know, 46-ish, um, you know, early 47, it made sense. So that kind of historically accurate. I'm all I'm also like looking to see if there's any references to World War II and these movies that are close into war. Um, and then I love the I love the part where they um where the the son is um Tom and they're like, oh, Tom's outside playing. I'm like, oh, this is really interesting because like obviously live in an apartment building in in Manhattan or somewhere in New York. It's like, yeah, just you can go outside. Like parents today would like mostly, mostly. Maybe not on Road Avenue parents, but uh would mostly not uh let their kids do that. And I also want to give a shout out to Arthur C. Um uh Miller, who was a cinematographer on this. He won an Oscar for How Green Was My Valley. Um get nominated or win for this movie, but I just want to show that continuity with our past movie. That's it. Oh you have more notes. I have more notes. Well, I thought another funny thing was um I can't remember the names, Gregory Peck's um character is like, oh yeah, my aging mother in Skylar Green, yeah. Yeah, Skylar Green's like aging mother. I mean, like, I mean the actress is like Ann Reese is like 44 years old. I don't know how old she was portraying the movie, but like she wasn't.

SPEAKER_11 58:00

See, she's not getting carted.

SPEAKER_01 58:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 58:03

Tworthy lane market. That is right.

SPEAKER_08 58:05

But anyway. What did you take on the the scientists, the whole back and forth with the scientists, his theory of like, you know, because it's like the Jewish people's not a race, but it is a race, and so I'm just going to not be, but then I can't be like that whole soliloquy.

SPEAKER_01 58:25

Yeah, I mean, it's not in some ways I almost feel like the movie was doing a checklist of things, right? Because that's what I felt too. They go to the hotel, or he goes to the Skylar Green goes to the hotel, and like we already know what's gonna happen because they've already told us, and so sure enough, they but we had to see it on screen. The jobs thing, even though that didn't go anywhere, it's almost like now we have to have the scientist thing who's like, Well, I'm not really Jewish, they don't practice, and so there's I mean, which is you know a train of thought for sure. Um I just felt like it was more like a checklist item because I didn't really like it. Yeah, country clubs, yeah, country club, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 58:56

Yeah, yeah. That's that's fair criticism.

SPEAKER_11 58:59

Yeah, Kate. Um, well, I I think I agree with pretty much everything you all have said. I mean, there are Gregory Peck is fine. He is very fine, most importantly. There are definite moments of like preachiness. Um, it's an important topic for sure, that needs, you know, need to needed to be explored at that moment in time for sure. And um it's interesting that it's Ilya Kazan doing it, you know, and and like he goes out, you know, he has this history in Hollywood of taking on like controversial subjects, and then not that long after he's naming names in um Senate hearings um and getting people blacklisted, and you know, he's the one that did that. He's the one that did that, and like oops, sorry, did I hit you or your coat? Um so it's in it's interesting that he took on this subject matter. Um uh Moss Hart was the screenplay w wrote the screenplay, and he was somebody who I believe got blacklisted. Um by Talia Kinsang. Um perhaps, and or others. I mean, like I it just it's a it's a I think the maybe the background is as interesting as the story itself.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:21

What's the the House on Un American committee? When when did that go? When did that happen? I think it was a few years later.

SPEAKER_11 1:00:30

Um it had different names. Yeah, they were operating under a different name.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:36

So it actually had a longer history than we think of because of these earlier names that predate.

SPEAKER_11 1:00:40

McCarthy was like kind of this like late 40s, early 50s. He was the Senate version, yeah. He was because the Senate was the House and American Activities Committee. And you think of you but you think of McCarthy and you think of like these hearings and this testimony, and it was happening in both both chambers, and you know, a lot of people went along with it.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:02

Uh everybody's beloved RFK, the original RFK, was a young attorney uh on the Senate version with McCarthy. Was he? Yes, he was.

SPEAKER_11 1:01:12

What I will say is it's interesting the contrast between where Kazan went just a few years later versus like this lead character of Skylar Green, who sticks to his guns the whole time, and you know, under pressure from his girlfriend who he loves, his fiance who he loves, she's like telling him, let's just tell our family, let's just tell the family that you're not actually Jewish, and he won't do it, right? Like it's like he is very driven to do this and try to be true to the idea of the story and like getting as close to the truth and as he can. And then you've got Ilia Kazan on the on the other side of the camera, who you know later, not much later, doesn't crumples, right? Crumples under the pressure, decides to do the thing that it's interesting.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:12

Uh Sam said the the Kathy character, she's from Middletown, Ohio. Is that right?

SPEAKER_05 1:02:18

Did she say that? I shouldn't no no, not in the the actor.

SPEAKER_11 1:02:22

Oh, Dorothy Maguire, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:24

Dorothy Maguire, the actress is from Middletown.

SPEAKER_11 1:02:26

Okay. I believe it. I think this movie caused me to not really care for her in anything else, though. Because you she was a fairly popular actor of the day. And I feel like I never quite like her. I don't know. Is that right? It might be this movie. As I was watching it, I was like, oh yeah, this might be the movie that I just was like, ugh, I don't like her that much. And I'm just held it against her.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:49

Held it against her. The character of Kathy held against the actress Dorothy Maguire.

SPEAKER_09 1:02:55

And that love story was so false.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:58

Why?

SPEAKER_09 1:02:59

Oh, I love you, let's get married. Well, I don't know immediately.

SPEAKER_08 1:03:03

I agree. It moved very fast. Yeah, I disagree. I disagree.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:10

And then they wake up and then the next woman's like, I'm proposing.

SPEAKER_08 1:03:15

Well, she they they they they they kind of each other for weeks, I know.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:20

Well they they're coming.

SPEAKER_08 1:03:22

They foreshadow that in the first they say like Kathy says to Phil Green, like, oh, whatever her name is, like she she like she likes you, and you know I'm surprised the secretary didn't propose, so I I disagree, but not surprisingly, I don't think I ever really agree with Eddie's take on anything in the movies. So he tries to provoke.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:48

No, that's not that it's just it was very quick.

SPEAKER_08 1:03:51

Well I mean because the code won't the code won't let them have sex before they're married. So of course they're gonna get married fast.

SPEAKER_11 1:04:00

Divorcee, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:01

So let's be real. So I was impressed she was a divorcee. Right. I know, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:09

So yesterday, when I was watching this with uh my dear friend Ava Kay, uh she leaned over to me and said, He's gonna marry the blonde. And I said, No, Ava Kay, it's Hollywood. She's gonna he's gonna marry the Kathy. This is Hollywood, she's gonna marry Kathy, he's gonna marry Kathy.

SPEAKER_11 1:04:31

Can I say one more thing? Yes, you can turn it over. Sure. His mother. Clearly, like she is a strong character, right? And like has a very strong moral compass, who, you know, and she has kind of like the guiding hand there. Like I think like that, those supporting characters, his friend, but like his mother and his son, like you know, just good, solid people that are supporting him and all of it.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:06

Okay, we've gone around the uh table and now it's my turn.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:10

Yeah, oh okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:12

Oh okay. I grew up in Van Wort, Ohio, 90 miles north of here. I heard that. I did not know a Jewish person. Uh I'm not sure that any Jewish person ever lived in Van Wort, at least that I knew of. Uh I actually finally got to have Jewish friends when I started law school at the University of Dayton. I went to Manchester College, Church of the Brethren. I don't believe there were any Jewish students there. More likely. Northeastern uh Indiana uh rule. Uh so I really never knew any Jewish people until I got to uh uh uh Dayton. Dayton. And the very first Guy I met was Dennis Lieberman.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:03

And so, you know, fast forward through life, you never know how life's gonna take you. I now have two Jewish granddaughters.

SPEAKER_10 1:06:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:12

And I couldn't be happier. Yeah. I was born and raised in the Methodist Church. My mom was church secretary for 35 years. Uh she told me, you can marry anybody you want to, just don't marry a Catholic. So I married a Catholic. So you married a Catholic. And the reason for that was not that my mom didn't like Catholics, but uh at that time the priest in Van Wert hated Vatican II. And anytime there was an intermarriage between the First Methodist Church and the Catholic Church, it was always a Methodist girl marrying a Catholic boy. And that priest up there would threaten excommunication, would ban people from going to the ceremony, would do this, would do that. He was real medieval when it came to that. So my mom, being the church secretary, she was always involved with uh with doing the uh the wedding arrangements and stuff. So that's why she told me that. So I don't think when I married Virginia that it broke her heart. Uh she had four wonderful uh Catholic grandchildren, of which uh Eddie's one down there. Um and now I have two Jewish granddaughters and I couldn't be happier about that. When this whole thing about being at the table uh and not and I'm not talking about this table, I'm talking about dinner table when somebody gives a racist joke or an anti-Semitic joke or whatever. Uh when Tommy gets beat up. Yeah. Uh I look at Ava Kay and I pause the film and I said, you know, that happened to me. It was just a little different. And she's like, How? And I'm not gonna name names, but there was a student uh when I was in fifth grade whose father told him that Mrs. Garris was an N lover because my mom had joined the NAACP after Dr. Martin Luther King's march on Washington. So I'm on the playground, and there's a number of kids running around going, Mrs. Garrett is an N lover, and they weren't saying N, they were saying the word. We know, we know.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:37

Yeah, it was in the movie.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:38

Huh? Yeah, it was in the movie, yeah. It was and uh so I've kind of like I've been there, you know, as a kid. I heard that. And you know, do you fight or what do you do? Well, I don't know. I obviously didn't do anything. One of my best friends when I was growing up was in the orchestra with me, Colonel Franklin Boaz III, and he played the bass and I played the cello. Uh we went places together, and you know, there was some people that that word just poured out of their mouth like the water at Niagara Falls. And the same thing about a Jew this and a Jew that, and Jew, Jew, Jew, you, you know, it doesn't matter. It's just always out there, whether it was Mexican or whether it was Jewish or whether it was uh uh whatever. So, you know, I gotta say, since this is true confessions, I you know, I've been at the table and somebody said something and I didn't say anything. You know? I think I think if people here say that that hasn't happened to them, I would question their being truthful. Uh especially unfortunately when you're in politics. Sometimes it's not right, but sometimes I don't know. For the bigger picture, I'm not sure what the bigger picture is. After watching this movie, I'm questioning, like, now you know, at that meeting I should have got up and said, F you, I'm not putting up with this. But I didn't. So I like that part of this movie because even though it was came out six years before I was born, yeah, it's kind of challenged me now to look back and say, Absolutely, you know, that's happened a lot of times when I should have stood up and said no.

SPEAKER_10 1:10:38

We tend to take the path of least resistance at times. I don't I don't want your support.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:43

I you know, I don't need your contribution, I don't want your support. Get out of my face, I'm never talking to you again. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:51

Well, and I think I I mean I I agree, especially in in the work that we've been in, yeah, that you know, there have been times when when I regret not standing up when I should have stood up or saying something when I should have. But I I I always view it as like a time it's a really appropriate reminder, not so much for regret, but like encouragement for the next time you are at the table, right? So this is still going on today. There are still times when people say things that are inappropriate um that they think that they can get away with, even it ought to say it's less than it was 10 years ago. It was less and it's less than it was 20 years ago.

SPEAKER_09 1:11:32

Not right now.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:32

Well, at least at the tables I'm at, Eddie. Well, I'm talking about my personal experience. You can talk about yours in a moment, but like it happens less to me now because I think I am viewed as someone that will not put up with it. Okay, I see what you're saying. You see what I'm saying? So so like I think that that has changed for me from 20 years ago, but like I think too, I think about the times that I didn't, but then the opportunities that I have to continue on to step up now, right? Like in the future. And I think that's what makes this movie so great. You know, here it was in 1947, and it has you know, it's it's reminded me even of my actions today, and I think that makes it a really, really powerful movie, particularly that conversation with her and the friend. Like, I think that was the most powerful part of the entire movie. I agree. Yeah. So I agree, I agree, Dan. I think that's really true. But Eddie, if you want to talk about tables that you're that you know, people are being anti-Semitic, racist, prejudiced, and homophobic, I'm happy to hear about it and how you stood up or not.

SPEAKER_09 1:12:36

Well, you know, the world doesn't evolve around me, so I have to, you know, look at the aggregate going on.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:43

Well, I think the point of the I think the point of the the point of the movie, the point of the movie, Eddie, point the point of the movie is like you can make uh efforts as you're as a one human in the fight. It's not about like of course, like it is it is terrible right now, but like what are the things that we're doing as individuals to make a difference in that? I think that's the point of the movie.

SPEAKER_09 1:13:08

I mean, okay, I could get online and just fight with people all the time, but I don't think that's going to change anything. And that's where a lot of it happens now. I mean, we're not really going to dentals all that much anymore, especially in the younger generations. It's all done online. You might just be fighting with a bot too at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:26

It could be just a bot, but I think that's part of the challenge too, is the fact that there isn't any interpersonal communications with young people, and they've like challenged that and have affected it's shown like the effect of the demise of overall society.

SPEAKER_11 1:13:39

Living on the internet and choosing which holes to go down. Yeah, and choosing to only talk to certain people. That's all it's scary.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:48

People say things on the internet, they won't say that. Absolutely, they will.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:54

Okay. Well, I'm just gonna say one last thing. I'm reading here in the uh 80 years of the Oscar, the official history of the Academy Awards.

SPEAKER_11 1:14:03

That still hasn't been updated. No, yeah, the book still hasn't been updated. You know, So Wish.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:09

This is 80 years. I know. So this is gonna take us.

SPEAKER_11 1:14:12

Well, they need to do the addendum.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:13

I know, but this is gonna take us, it's like Ken Burns, you know. It took him a while to do extra innings.

SPEAKER_11 1:14:17

If anybody, if anybody is out there listening, please do the addendum.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:21

After he did the uh after he did baseball, it took him a while to do extra innings.

SPEAKER_08 1:14:25

We'll do we'll endorse we'll endorse the book, yes. Yeah, it'll be a movie sponsor. We'll be sponsored, we'll be a special sponsor of the book.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:34

I'm gonna conclude this with uh this discussion with uh a final comment, especially since uh you brought it up about Ella Kazan and uh you know the House on American Activities Committee.

SPEAKER_08 1:14:46

I just love how you how you pronounce his name.

SPEAKER_11 1:14:52

It's been different three times.

SPEAKER_08 1:14:53

Yeah. How is it said though? It's Ilya.

SPEAKER_11 1:14:56

Ilya.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:57

Ilya, yeah. Uh Kazan himself Ilya.

unknown 1:15:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:02

Kazan himself later said he felt gentlemen's agreement, quote, skated over the surface of an issue that needed a more penetrating treatment. Oof. So, anyhow, there you go. He didn't like it. Interesting. Well, he thought it could have been more penetrating. But interestingly enough, I think that was a great movie. I really enjoyed our conversation tonight on it.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:24

Can I ask a question, Dan? The next have you disliked a movie yet?

SPEAKER_11 1:15:29

Have you disliked one?

SPEAKER_08 1:15:31

We're at 20.

SPEAKER_11 1:15:32

I think we're at 20, and I don't recall. I don't recall a time.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:36

I'm saving my fire for ordinary people. Oh god.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:41

Thank you, Dan. Oh, so what are we gonna talk about to close out? Yeah, we're not done. Okay. We're not done.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:46

So, anyhow, uh the big thing that we want to, there's a couple things we want to talk about. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:53

Oh, hand me your plate. Hammy your plate.

SPEAKER_11 1:15:55

We've got announcements.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:57

Yeah. First off, uh, there will be no new podcast next week. Uh next week is gonna be a busy week for us all. Uh we have Sufs coming up on Saturday. Sufs is finally here. Uh that is the Broadway place SUFs. Uh, that uh has meant a lot to a lot of people sitting here at this table. Uh we have sold 115 tickets to Sufs. We're going to a Saturday matinee at the Schuster Center on uh April 4th. Uh Ann Charles Watts uh has and uh Laura Pippinger, I believe, have made 114 sashes that say that say votes for women. And then Ann Charles Watts has pinned one of these Virginia Mod Plat says votes for women button on every sash. Amazing through a variety of reasons. I now have 450 of these buttons instead of just 250 that were originally.

SPEAKER_11 1:17:06

Through a variety of reasons. I feel like the word mists.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:09

I'm not there's a story behind that.

SPEAKER_11 1:17:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:12

It involves China podcast. Well, I can if you want me to.

SPEAKER_10 1:17:17

That's okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:18

Uh okay. These buttons meant a lot to me, and I really wanted to get them. It's got uh and Marty designed them. It's got a picture of my wife uh from when we were uh at a Dean's Classic, or not a Dean's Classic, a Dean's Christmas party. Uh it was also the picture that was used in uh her obituary. And the I'm next to her in the real picture, and that'll be used in my obituary. Uh Marty sat there one night and took put her picture on an AI-generated suffra jet button, uh, put her in that uniform, that costume, and I said, We got to get these buttons ordered. So Marty ordered these buttons, 250 of them, and they were guaranteed to be here by March 19th. Well, last Monday, after March 19th, Marty called the company and said, Where are my buttons? R my buttons. And they said, What do you mean your buttons? And Marty said, Whoa, dudes, you promised March 19th. Well, the only way we can get them to you is if you pay $80 more, and we can't guarantee you'll have them by April 3rd.

SPEAKER_10 1:18:30

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:31

I had, shall I say, a 73-year-old meltdown.

SPEAKER_10 1:18:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:37

Because these buttons meant a lot to me. I can get emotional when we talk about Virginia. Marty sensed that I was having a meltdown. And he said, Pops, don't worry about it. I'll take care of it. Half an hour later, this is Monday night, half an hour later, Marty called me and said, We'll have the buttons by Friday. And I said, the same company said no, they wanted $80 more to guarantee it. And I said, no, we're not going to do it. Uh I found another company. I sent them the artwork. We'll have them by Friday. Wednesday, Marty is getting ready to take, uh, I'm getting ready to go with Marty doing my Esther Price Easter candy shopping. $650 this year. The Easter bunny's gonna treat people very, very well.

SPEAKER_11 1:19:32

The Easter Bunny's gonna have a hernia.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:34

Well, thank you. Tariffs chocolate costs a whole lot more. True.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:40

Also, we sponsor Esther Price candy on our tanner.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:44

And and Sam will be happy to know that like 14 ton or something of Kit Kat bars have been stolen stolen in France.

unknown 1:19:54

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:55

Yeah, it was on the national news tonight. A big shipment of Kit Kat bars have been stolen in France. So, anyhow, so Marty's coming down here Wednesday morning to go with me to Esther Price and do my Easter candy shopping, and he brings a box in. And it's the box from New York City.

SPEAKER_10 1:20:16

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:17

He ordered it 10, 10:30 Monday night.

SPEAKER_10 1:20:20

Came Wednesday. Already had it.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:22

They already had it. There, this button here. And I look at it and I'm like, okay, you know, I like it. It's not, you know, I thought, well, it's not as bright as I wanted it to be in the background, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But it kind of grew on me because it looks older.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:39

Yeah, I like it.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:39

And you want the suffragette thing to look older. So I'm like, okay, that's cool. So Ann Charles Watts comes down to do the title, so I can give the trusty steed away. And she says, Oh, I'll take them and pin them on the sashes. So before she left on her spring break, she pinned 114 of these on 114 sashes. So then that way we don't have to pass them out. So I'm sitting here, was it Friday, Eddie? Yeah, I'm sitting here Friday. And Eddie comes in with a box. It's got Chinese stamps on it. And I'm like, what is this? And it's got a picture of the button on the outside of the box. And he looks at it, and it apparently shipped from a province in China, cleared U.S. Customs on March 26th, and was delivered March 27th.

SPEAKER_08 1:21:38

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:39

So that is why I now have 450.

SPEAKER_08 1:21:41

Well, we can give them in next year's tea, too.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:43

We're gonna have a whole bunch of them for the tea next year. So, anyhow, they have a wider background. So, anyhow, that's where that all came from. Lovely. So, anyhow, SUFS is coming up. We have uh 115 that bought tickets through us. We have another six or seven that are gonna be part of our merry band. We're really looking forward to that. And then it's Easter Sunday, so it's just gonna be too many things to try to do a podcast. That's right. So we're gonna be off for a week, but then when we come back, we're gonna do everybody's favorite Hamlet.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:18

Hamlet. Here we go.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:21

Shakespeare. We're finally Sir Lawrence Olivier, we're gonna do Hamlet. 1948.

SPEAKER_11 1:22:26

Three hours long, like the Kenneth Brano one in the eight in the 90s. Um I don't think it's quite a bit.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:32

I don't know, but that's that's that's the movie we're gonna do. So I do have it on DVD.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:37

If anybody wants to come down and watch it, but we'll see it in two weeks, right? Yeah, so that's good. Can we tell can we tell the story about the the place we're going to after? I want Sam to tell the story. Okay, yeah. Is this the time? Sam, so tell the story of the name of the place.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:53

The French name, you snob. Did you know? Did you hear this thing about Kit Kat bar getting stolen in France? No. No. Like a three or four-ton shipment of Kit Kat bars have been hijacked in France.

SPEAKER_11 1:23:05

Yeah, what do you know about it?

SPEAKER_05 1:23:07

I mean, that's like terrible But that's like that terrible processed chocolate. I didn't even know they were allowed to eat those in France. Give me a break. They should have break me off a piece of that kitchen. Yeah, like the chocolate that they make there in Belgium is so much better.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:26

Now sing that in French. Give me a break. Break me off a piece of that.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:31

I don't sing in any language. Okay. But so yeah, so the wine bar, you know, it's it's called joy, or at least how they pronounce it, but it's really J-O-U-I, Jouy, which is a French word, which in French slang means orgasm.

unknown 1:23:52

There you go.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:54

I knew you'd like that, yes. That is what it that is what it means. So I don't think my wife would approve.

SPEAKER_11 1:24:00

So we're there for Virginia, it's called joy.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:04

It's called joy. Yeah, so we're there, and I'm like telling them this, and like, should we tell the owner? Like, oh, she probably knows. She totally knows, right? Oh, yeah, she totally knows. She knows. And she kind of like like downplayed, I think, how much she knew when she picked that name.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:23

She's in the background.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:25

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:26

Yeah. As soon as we said it, she was like, I know, I know.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:30

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:32

Anyway, joy.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:34

That's awesome. Awesome.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:37

And Mary Grace was there when she told the whole story, so and she didn't think she didn't like a sick.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:43

No, she's fine.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:45

Anyway, I thought you'd like that.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:46

Yeah, so we're looking forward to that. That's gonna be a great time. And so excited. Everybody, Nan and Charles Watts have done so much work on this with uh getting the money, getting the people worked out. So I am really, really looking forward to it.

SPEAKER_08 1:25:01

Also, I just want to mention, too, I want to like um uh the U Fingers are coming, or they were coming for the um play next week, but John Ufinger passed away Thursday night, uh, which is Tony's dad, and I've known him for 20 years and happened quite suddenly, so we're thinking of the U Fingers uh this week particularly. They were set to come.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:26

So Okay. Now, then the other thing we've got to do is uh we've already said it, but it's now time to recognize the two birthday girls that are here. Oh Kate, whose age shall remain uh a government secret.

SPEAKER_11 1:25:45

That's fine. I got carted at Dorothy Lane Market this week. What I I'll take it.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:50

Kate, can I tell you something?

SPEAKER_11 1:25:52

I don't look like I need to be carted. I get it. I know. She's six, seven years old.

unknown 1:25:59

I know.

SPEAKER_11 1:26:00

I knew it. I knew that lady was too nice.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:03

I paid her.

SPEAKER_11 1:26:04

And she was really good at that.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:05

Well, I think some of those grocery stores have I get carded every time I go through Kroger. What a buzzkill, Sam. Just let me have my moment everything. I know.

SPEAKER_11 1:26:18

I know I don't look like I'm 21 anymore. But I just I do think that the massage helped me not look like the 45-year-old troll that I am.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:30

45 That was so far my rear view mirror, I've almost lapped you, girl.

SPEAKER_11 1:26:37

Well, that's what the cashier told me. She was like, she was very funny, and she started giggling. She goes, hi Kern, everybody. Everybody seems so young to me. It was very sweet.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:48

So, anyhow, there's Kate's birthday was yesterday, and Dea's was last Thursday. So, on three, everybody. Oh boy. One, two, three.

SPEAKER_08 1:26:59

Happy birthday to Happy birthday to Happy birthday, happy birthday to you.

unknown 1:27:19

Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:21

Now, we were going to put forty-five plus seventeen candles.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:26

Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:29

I haven't got I have insurance, and I've got a place across the street, Eddie's house, to live in.

SPEAKER_11 1:27:35

But you decided it would be a bad idea.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:38

Yeah, we don't have 17 candles, or we don't have that many candles. So, anyhow, uh, we've got presents to open, but rather than bore everybody on that, you know what's gonna happen? Uh we're off for a week. Two about two weeks. We'll be back April 13th, I believe April 12th. We'll be back April 12th when we will talk about how. With that, we're gonna have our birthday cake, we're gonna open presents, and Louie's gonna get his treats. And uh I want I'm wishing everybody to have a reflective Passover and Easter. Godspeed and fair winds until we meet again.